The women in Iran taking off the hijab

[atrib]

What about men? Why aren't they in burkas too? Do you assume that women don't lust and/or that a bare chested man can't arouse lust in a woman?

Syed, why didn't you answer these questions?

in islam men also must cover his body in public

man and woman have different attitude about sex, a man can stare at a woman without feeling shame but woman feel shame to stare at man

Really? Are men required to cover their bodies from head to toe in shapeless cloth bags before they step out in public? Are men required to have chaperones when they go out in public or to visit with their friends? I think not.

In Islamic countries women are usually treated like property, first as the property of their fathers, then as the property of their husbands. In many Islamic countries women are not allowed the rights that are accorded to men. In many Islamic countries women are prevented or actively discouraged from going to school. In many Islamic countries, women are not allowed to have male friends even though their brothers and fathers visit brothels to satisfy their sexual appetites. In many Islamic countries women are not even allowed to choose their husbands for themselves. The curse of Islam subjugates women and encourages Islamic societies to treat women as second class citizens. This is all fact, and you are going to ignore these facts and continue trolling these forums with your asinine one liners.

 

[atrib]

What about men? Why aren't they in burkas too? Do you assume that women don't lust and/or that a bare chested man can't arouse lust in a woman?

Syed, why didn't you answer these questions?

in islam men also must cover his body in public

man and woman have different attitude about sex, a man can stare at a woman without feeling shame but woman feel shame to stare at man

How the fuck do you know how women feel? Do you even know any women who are not part of your immediate family? You are making up shit because you have nothing to counter what people here have been telling you and you feel that acting this way under the cover of anonymity is acceptable behavior. We have been reading your shit for many years and we know what you do.

 

[jonJ]

"There's an untreated pandemic of harm from pornography," said Dawn Hawkins, executive director of Morality in Media, which has campaigned against pornography since 1962.

They've been campaigning for fifty-two years, and they still haven't been able to convince anyone sane that they have a case? Syed, you need to find some more credible sources.

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how should teenagers deal with porn and bikini ?

I suggest they wear the bikini and look at the porn. It's going to be too confusing the other way around.

 

[Juma]

do you believe kids are watching porn and harmful to them?

No. I dont think it is harmful. Why would it be?

so you allow your kids to watch porn ?

Answer my question: why do you think it is harmful for kids to see porn?

 

[Narapoia]

The sight of scantily clad women is arousing because it's unusual, Syed.
A century ago we in the West were aroused by the sight of a woman's leg. Now that it's a common sight no-one pays attention any more. Women may safely walk around in shorts and men are not aroused.

The cure for the immodest dress problem is more immodest dress.
Where immodesty becomes commonplace it ceases to be immodesty.

Well I can't speak for anyone else but I find the sight of some women in shorts pretty damn arousing. That said I am a normal male who can be aroused while still being a) responsible for my actions and b) able to exert self control such that my appreciation of an attractive person does not in any way impinge on their rights to wear what they like or their personal safety. It's pretty demeaning to assume that men in general cannot do so.

 

[C_Mucius_Scaevola]

man and woman have different attitude about sex, a man can stare at a woman without feeling shame but woman feel shame to stare at man

If this was true - and it's not, but if it was - surely it would be the men who should cover up from head to toe, so as not to cause shame to the women who'd have to look at them?

But of course, it's bullshit. The only way anybody feels shame from looking at the opposite sex is if they've been taught, had it drummed into them, that they should feel shame for doing what comes naturally to all but the blind. It's those who instil this attitude into their children who should feel ashamed.

 

[RavenSky]

What about men? Why aren't they in burkas too? Do you assume that women don't lust and/or that a bare chested man can't arouse lust in a woman?

Syed, why didn't you answer these questions?

in islam men also must cover his body in public

man and woman have different attitude about sex, a man can stare at a woman without feeling shame but woman feel shame to stare at man

Men are not required to wear a burka or similar clothing anywhere in the world, and you know it. So why the double-standard? Because your paternalistic religion dictates it.

Moreover, any shame to be felt for finding the human body sexy is due to religious brain-washing - not any sort of innate characteristic. It is absolute nonsense for you to believe women inherently feel shame for lusting after a man's body.

Finally, you appear to have an extremely low opinion of men.

 

[dystopian]

so teen should be allow to watch porn?

Yes. Absolutely.

 

[Keith&Co.]

so teen should be allow to watch porn?

Yes. Absolutely.

No, no. That takes all the fun out of it.
Teens should be forbidden to watch porn. I tell them, "Do not watch the smut that i keep in the back of my dresser, third left-hand drawer, under the '24 Empty Missile Tubes, It's Miller Time' t-shirt."
They are forbidden to go through my porn drawer, which they know is on my side of the bed, the left hand side, bottom drawer.
EVER!

And if i ever catch them, i point out what they did wrong. "Dammit! These are in alphabetical order! Pay attention!"

 

[George S]

In the first 30 seconds of http://youtu.be/o_znVnOizU8, it is mentioned that Sweden has gone from a very safe country for women to the rape capital of the world coincident with a massive Muslim immigration.

Do all Muslim men think with their dick like our local interlocutor? Do all of them think that when they rape it was the woman's fault for tempting them?

 

[dystopian]

so teen should be allow to watch porn?

Yes. Absolutely.

No, no. That takes all the fun out of it.
Teens should be forbidden to watch porn. I tell them, "Do not watch the smut that i keep in the back of my dresser, third left-hand drawer, under the '24 Empty Missile Tubes, It's Miller Time' t-shirt."
They are forbidden to go through my porn drawer, which they know is on my side of the bed, the left hand side, bottom drawer.
EVER!

Porn drawer? What is this, the technological dark ages?

 

[dystopian]

In the first 30 seconds of http://youtu.be/o_znVnOizU8, it is mentioned that Sweden has gone from a very safe country for women to the rape capital of the world coincident with a massive Muslim immigration.

Do all Muslim men think with their dick like our local interlocutor? Do all of them think that when they rape it was the woman's fault for tempting them?

To be fair, that isn't actually a good argument since the claim that Sweden is the 'rape capital' of the world is kind of meaningless. Sweden has developed extremely inclusive definition of what constitutes rape, and as a western country will naturally have a much higher reporting rate than third world countries (that often don't even both to keep records of these sorts of things). It doesn't really tell us anything that Sweden has the highest reported rape rate when, for example, Swedish law requires it to count each instance of spousal rape separately (for the purposes of reporting) while other countries would count it as just a single reported case. And you can't really blame the uptick on muslim immigrants either because in fact it can largely be explained by the 2005 legal reforms that significantly broadened the definition of rape in comparison to what it had been before.

So as wrong as Syed is in everything that he's said; it's dishonest and really problematic to blame Sweden's rape rate on muslim immigrants.

 

[Keith&Co.]

so teen should be allow to watch porn?

Yes. Absolutely.

No, no. That takes all the fun out of it.
Teens should be forbidden to watch porn. I tell them, "Do not watch the smut that i keep in the back of my dresser, third left-hand drawer, under the '24 Empty Missile Tubes, It's Miller Time' t-shirt."
They are forbidden to go through my porn drawer, which they know is on my side of the bed, the left hand side, bottom drawer.
EVER!

Porn drawer? What is this, the technological dark ages?

We prefer the term 'legacy.'

 

[funinspace]

What about men? Why aren't they in burkas too? Do you assume that women don't lust and/or that a bare chested man can't arouse lust in a woman?

Syed, why didn't you answer these questions?

in islam men also must cover his body in public

What utter dog shit. I have never seen Islamic men dressed as modest as Islamic women in public together. This is the case whether the women is only wearing loose clothing and a head scarf to wearing the full body bag. The men are barely different than any other western man, in wearing slacks and a shirt, and sometimes shorts. Sometimes the men have worn sandals. I have NEVER EVER seen an Islamic man covering his hair (other maybe a baseball cap). You and your faith clearly have a double standard for how you make women go out in public verses men. WHY?

What if the other guy is gay? And seeing his arms, legs, and hair were a turn on? Shame on the guys lack of modesty…lol

man and woman have different attitude about sex, a man can stare at a woman without feeling shame but woman feel shame to stare at man

Do you really believe this?

Oh, back on the titty question: Depending on circumstances, I don’t get aroused just by seeing breasts. Personally, I find a woman’s face and overall body shape to be the most alluring features. Yeah, in a sensual setting I can easily get that way. But I’ve been around enough beaches, hiking, et.al. that just seeing a woman’s breast doesn’t cause my hear to flutter. How do you think all the various old native cultures around the world survive with women regularly not covering up their top?

 

[blastula]

In the first 30 seconds of http://youtu.be/o_znVnOizU8, it is mentioned that Sweden has gone from a very safe country for women to the rape capital of the world coincident with a massive Muslim immigration.

Do all Muslim men think with their dick like our local interlocutor? Do all of them think that when they rape it was the woman's fault for tempting them?

Because of Swedish bikini.

 

[Syed]

In the first 30 seconds of http://youtu.be/o_znVnOizU8, it is mentioned that Sweden has gone from a very safe country for women to the rape capital of the world coincident with a massive Muslim immigration.

Do all Muslim men think with their dick like our local interlocutor? Do all of them think that when they rape it was the woman's fault for tempting them?

muslims dont rape

 

[Tom Sawyer]

muslims dont rape

Then who cares if women walk around in Muslim countries with little or no clothing? They're not in any danger from the men there, so why is it an issue?

 

[credoconsolans]

the nature of man is to lust after a woman who reviling her body

It is, but it's a nature that must be fought against in order not to sin.

So, Syed, you are going to blind yourself or go blindfold, right?

are you free from lust after watching woman?

Yes, I am.

Now since you are not, by your own admission we can now expect you to blind yourself or go blindfold, right?

You need to say yes, Syed. Otherwise you're proving yourself a hypocrite.

So Syed, I am still waiting for your answer.

You already said that seeing scantily clad women incites lust/sin in you.

YOU are sinning.

So, you must be ready to blind yourself/blindfold yourself to stop YOURSELF from sinning, right?

Say yes, Syed, or be called a religious hypocrite.

If you do not answer, then we will know that YOU are the sinner and you don't want to do anything about YOUR sin, but blame others when YOU are the one sinning.

We are waiting, Syed.

You didn't answer, Syed.

So obviously you are a sinner and you want to blame others for YOUR sin.

Your religious hypocrisy is now obvious to all.

Thank you for your admission.

 

[Narapoia]

They've been campaigning for fifty-two years, and they still haven't been able to convince anyone sane that they have a case? Syed, you need to find some more credible sources.

Interestingly I have come across some push-back from within the porn watching fraternity itself, not so much against porn in general but the modern high-speed delivered kind. Some users claim to suffer from porn addiction, which is self-explanatory really, and includes the side-effects of premature ejaculation, ED and an inability to be aroused by normal real-life sexual experiences. A majority of the people leading this push back are younger men, sub 25. While most people would not be surprised to see a higher likelihood of PE and unsatisfying sexual experiences in this age group the prevalence of ED is something out of the ordinary and has been noticed in the medical fraternity.

Some of the manifestations of this push back include the early mover Nofap Reddit support group and yourbrainonporn which, despite the terrible name, tries to be a bit more scientific about the issue. Below is a Ted talk by the latter's founder, a retired Neurologist, on the effects of modern pornography. I personally don't think there has yet been enough research to conclusively prove an addiction with related changes in the brain but it is interesting to see that after 52 years of people yelling from the outside (with staid religious motivation for getting rid of porn) the more realistic resistance has arisen from users and doctors.

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSF82AwSDiU[/YOUTUBE]

 

[C_Mucius_Scaevola]

In the first 30 seconds of http://youtu.be/o_znVnOizU8, it is mentioned that Sweden has gone from a very safe country for women to the rape capital of the world coincident with a massive Muslim immigration.

Do all Muslim men think with their dick like our local interlocutor? Do all of them think that when they rape it was the woman's fault for tempting them?

Because of Swedish bikini.

So you think all women in Sweden walk around in bikinis all the time? Even at night, when most rapes are likely to take place? In the winter?

And if bikinis cause rape, why aren't the beaches of the Mediterranean heaving mounds of fucking flesh?

What do bikinis do to you, Syed? You told us before that the sight of a breast gives you an erection; what effect does a bikini have on you? And why do other men all over the west seem to have no problem with it?