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Is it good to give money to homeless people?

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I want some advice on giving money to homeless people or panhandlers.

I live near Baltimore, MD and occasionally run into people who ask for money. Many appear homeless. Some I believe are just poor. There are people who wait at traffic lights and intersections holding signs asking for help/money. I have given to some of these people a couple of times but not anymore.

Most of the time people ask for money and they say they want to buy food. I have given out money before but I don’t feel like it’s the best thing to do. I have also bought food for people and I felt better about that, rather than giving out money. Actually the food I purchased was more than I would have handed out.

I feel better about giving out food because if the person was genuine than I have given exactly what they asked for; and people actually need food to live. When I give out money I feel bad because I don’t know if it will be spent wisely.

Last year I was leaving the dollar store and a man asked me for money to take a bus. He appeared homeless and disheveled; he had a bag and either a bed roll or sleeping bag. I gave him 5 bucks, but felt bad. Where was he going? What would he do with the five dollars? Would that money really help his situation?

Another time someone asked for money was outside a grocery store. I just pulled into a parking spot and was checking my phone. A man was walking around the parking lot asking for money. When I got out of my car he approached me.

“Excuse me mister, could you spare some change? I want to buy some food” he says.​

He’s displays some change like he is counting it.

“I can buy you food. There is a Chick fil-A right there, I will buy you something there” I say.​
“Uh, ok sure.”​

I start walking over to the Chick fil-A and he starts to follows me.

“Excuse me but could you spare some change? I need to take the bus” he says.​
“No.” I say.​
“Uh, ok”​

Now I start to feel bad because I know he didn’t just want food, he wanted money.
But we still go into the Chick fil-A anyway.
I let him order something, it’s about 7 dollars.
I start to feel awkward, so I leave after I pay but before the food comes out.

“Thanks mister” he says.​

Then I go back to the grocery store for shopping. I come out about a half hour later. There’s the same guy in the parking lot, still asking for money and someone gives him some. He starts to walk over to me to ask, but then he recognizes me.

“Still need some money?” I say.​
“Aww thanks again mister” he says.​

Then I left. I felt bad because now I don’t know if he even got or ate the food I bought. Also because he was being dishonest. He didn’t really want some change for food, he wanted the money.

Now I try to say no to everybody who asks, I feel better that way. If I want to be charitable I will go directly to a charity and give my money there.

I have heard about cards you can hand out to homeless which directs them to a local shelter or soup kitchen. I would prefer giving out those but frankly I think most homeless would be able to find those shelters or soup kitchens. Seems like a waste of paper to start handing out cards and the person just throws the card away when you leave.

Advice?
 
I don't know why people think they should only give money to people if they spend it 'wisely'. It's rather judgemental. Either give them money or don't, but once you do, it's no longer your money but theirs. Should your boss get to decide what you spend your salary on?

Plus, if you're giving someone money because they look homeless, poor, or otherwise in need; does it really matter if they spend it immediately on food? What if they're saving up the money they get begging so that they can plan their food purchases for the next week instead? Or saving up for job training courses? Or to save up for a cheap 2nd hand car so that they can have both a place to sleep and a means of getting to job interviews. Be honest, if some bum approached you on the street asking for money so he can buy a car to go to job interviews with, you wouldn't give him money, would you? But it'd be a hell of a lot wiser for him to do than spending it on a burger at mcdonalds.
 
As you have found, they're not really after survival items.
 
Initial thoughts: Those on the right believe it's not society's/government's place to help these people. They believe relief should be a matter of church and individual charity. These people, one would think, would help these unfortunates.

On the other hand, conservatives consider these people to be freeloaders and leeches, who choose not to work and expect government largessse to support them. Such people would not be worthy of charity.
It's a conflict.

Liberals would probably donate, but would prefer these people be supported by public funds while they were trained in useful skills and educated in life-skills, so as not to be a social burden in future.

It's a quandry, to be sure.
 
I don't know why people think they should only give money to people if they spend it 'wisely'. It's rather judgemental. Either give them money or don't, but once you do, it's no longer your money but theirs. Should your boss get to decide what you spend your salary on?

Plus, if you're giving someone money because they look homeless, poor, or otherwise in need; does it really matter if they spend it immediately on food? What if they're saving up the money they get begging so that they can plan their food purchases for the next week instead? Or saving up for job training courses? Or to save up for a cheap 2nd hand car so that they can have both a place to sleep and a means of getting to job interviews. Be honest, if some bum approached you on the street asking for money so he can buy a car to go to job interviews with, you wouldn't give him money, would you? But it'd be a hell of a lot wiser for him to do than spending it on a burger at mcdonalds.
Hey buddy just asking for advice wasn’t looking for a debate.

I don't know why people think they should only give money to people if they spend it 'wisely'.
I guess you and I have different philosophies. When I give money it’s a favor asked and a favor given. I don’t think it’s unreasonable of me to want to see the money spent wisely.

Should your boss get to decide what you spend your salary on?
I guess I see a world of difference between giving money - a gift -, and being paid for work - a service which helps my boss earn money himself.
No, my boss does not get to decide if I buy a Nintendo or 3D TV or comic books. But if I were to ask my boss if he could gift me some money to buy these things than yes and he can decide whether to give me money.

Plus, if you're giving someone money because they look homeless, poor, or otherwise in need; does it really matter if they spend it immediately on food?
No of course it doesn’t. But if someone asks for money for food then I assume they want money for food.

What if they're saving up the money they get begging so that they can plan their food purchases for the next week instead? Or saving up for job training courses? Or to save up for a cheap 2nd hand car so that they can have both a place to sleep and a means of getting to job interviews.
I would classify these things as spending money wisely.
That’s might point, I would love to think they were doing these things but I have no reason to believe they are doing so. And yes I would give money to people if I thought they would use it wisely.

Be honest, if some bum approached you on the street asking for money so he can buy a car to go to job interviews with, you wouldn't give him money, would you?
Are you claiming to be psychic? How can you deduce what I would or would not do?
I am honest, and I want to help people I would help someone get a car if I was reasonable sure that the money would go towards that. Why do you think I give money to people in the first place?
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But it'd be a hell of a lot wiser for him to do than spending it on a burger at mcdonalds.
Yes wiser, exactly! Exactly what I want my money to go towards.
BUT if someone asks for money, specifically for food, then I expect them to buy food. If someone asks for money to buy diapers for their kid I would expect them to buy diapers, etc.

I started this thread for advice, not to beat up or disparage homeless people. They are in an unfortunate situation.
 
Initial thoughts: Those on the right believe it's not society's/government's place to help these people. They believe relief should be a matter of church and individual charity. These people, one would think, would help these unfortunates.

On the other hand, conservatives consider these people to be freeloaders and leeches, who choose not to work and expect government largessse to support them. Such people would not be worthy of charity.
It's a conflict.

Liberals would probably donate, but would prefer these people be supported by public funds while they were trained in useful skills and educated in life-skills, so as not to be a social burden in future.

It's a quandry, to be sure.

What do you do if / when people ask you for money? I guess it depends on the situation.

It happens often enough where I live that I want to think about and decide how to handle it from now on.
 
If I have the change/money and I give it to someone, I just give it to someone - no questions asked. I don't care if they are saving for a car or a coat - going to buy a burger or going to buy a beer. If it makes their plight a bit easier, then I did what I intended.
 
Initial thoughts: Those on the right believe it's not society's/government's place to help these people. They believe relief should be a matter of church and individual charity. These people, one would think, would help these unfortunates.

On the other hand, conservatives consider these people to be freeloaders and leeches, who choose not to work and expect government largessse to support them. Such people would not be worthy of charity.
It's a conflict.

Liberals would probably donate, but would prefer these people be supported by public funds while they were trained in useful skills and educated in life-skills, so as not to be a social burden in future.

It's a quandry, to be sure.

What do you do if / when people ask you for money? I guess it depends on the situation.

It happens often enough where I live that I want to think about and decide how to handle it from now on.

I don't give anything. I used to, when I was much younger and naive. But you can't save the world; after you give to one hand a hundred other hands appear. Dystopian, above, is correct - at least that after you give money it is no longer your money. I once gave money to an old man who hangs out in the same spot most days begging. Then I saw him smoking cigarettes. Well, fuck that. Yet, a portion of your taxes pays for social programs and there are many organizations (some receiving grants of your tax dollars) that help the homeless. If a person wanted to get off the streets, they could. The support for them is already there. However, some don't because they don't want to and some don't because of mental illness. In any case, at least in the US, no one starves. If you're asked for money, just keep walking.
 
Speaking as someone who has slept a few nights under an overpass, I would just like to mention that a quarter bottle of cheap whiskey and half a pack of cigarettes are most assuredly 'survival items'.

I wouldn't expect people who haven't experienced that situation to understand that.

But it's true.

One of the biggest risks to your life in that situation is suicide. Survival is not about avoiding lung cancer in thirty years; or not starving in a few days time; it's about choosing not to step in front of a train today.

Food is generally not too hard to come by. But nobody wants to help you get a drink. And most smokers will let you have one ciggy, but will be offended if you don't light it on the spot. (It's presumably a lot harder now; so few people smoke, and a cigarette is no longer a cheap item to give away).
 
Yeah, the problem with panhandlers is that you never really know if they are homeless and desperate or if they are just lazy bastards. I think most of the ones I see are in genuine need of help. Most of the time I don't even have cash to give them but if I have some change I will give them it. Businesses discourage the public giving out money to the panhandlers so you have to take that into consideration. Some of the sights you see are quite heartbreaking, I saw a family of four, husband, wife and two young kids standing with a placard with their hard luck story written on it. I feel bad for them. I'm a sucker for those types. The alcoholics and junkies less so but I still hand over what little change I have. Poor bastards have a miserable existence.
 
I used to have more sympathy for the homeless an I usually had a dollar or two for them. That was when I had a nice 3 bedroom house in the suburbs. A homeless person was someone I met while going to lunch.

These days I live in a mixed commercial/residential neighborhood and there are always a few homeless people around. I've gotten to know quite a few of them, and I've learned a lot. The first thing I learned was that I couldn't them. I thought hiring them for odd jobs would benefit both of us, but it never worked out. I thought helping them find assistance for a place to live would help, but it never worked out.

I had to face the fact that I don't have the resources to help a homeless person in anyway which would make their life easier.

Homeless people are bad for business. They don't spend any money in my store, and panhandling in the parking lot scares my real customers. It's now a matter of my survival.

The buildings I occupy attract homeless people because there are a lot of sheltered corners. Over the years, they have learned to avoid my corner. One of the reasons they are homeless is because they don't deal well with the world. They would rather move on, than fight over a piece of cardboard on the sidewalk. I've never had a problem with a homeless person, unless they were drunk. Even then, they move on. There are shelters in my area. They could easily walk to one and have a dry place to sleep, but there are restrictions. Smoking is not allowed and you can't leave and get back in during the night. The people who remain on the streets at night have decided they don't want that. I'm not going to try and convince them they have made a bad choice. They know that.

All I can do is make them someone else's problem.

I wish I could help them
 
Yea if someone is reduced to begging for money on the streets and you have excessive income, just help them out. Carry some change with you on the regular, and now and then dole it out. If you're that concerned about giving fifty cents to a few bucks to a homeless person once or twice a month you probably shouldn't be giving anything.

Let them spend it on booze, cigarettes, whatever, they're human beings who need to have some semblance of enjoyment in their life.
 
There the joke about the panhandler approaching someone and saying, "I won't give you a line of baloney - I just need a dollar for a drink."

"OK", and, drawing out a dollar, suddenly stops and demands, "How do I know you won't spend it on a cup of coffee?"
 
There the joke about the panhandler approaching someone and saying, "I won't give you a line of baloney - I just need a dollar for a drink."

"OK", and, drawing out a dollar, suddenly stops and demands, "How do I know you won't spend it on a cup of coffee?"
I ran into a panhandler that had apparently heard that joke. I attended night school at a university in the middle of a city and the road between the class building and parking lot was always lined with panhandlers. One night on the way back to the parking lot I was approached and told if I would give him $0.50 he would buy me a beer. I couldn't resist so said OK. He led me to a seedy bar and sure enough they were selling draft for $0.25/glass (OK it was a while ago). We had several beers (on me) and talked and he turned out to be a really interesting guy that just got tired of the rat race.
 
Speaking as someone who has slept a few nights under an overpass, I would just like to mention that a quarter bottle of cheap whiskey and half a pack of cigarettes are most assuredly 'survival items'.

I wouldn't expect people who haven't experienced that situation to understand that.

But it's true.

One of the biggest risks to your life in that situation is suicide. Survival is not about avoiding lung cancer in thirty years; or not starving in a few days time; it's about choosing not to step in front of a train today.

Food is generally not too hard to come by. But nobody wants to help you get a drink. And most smokers will let you have one ciggy, but will be offended if you don't light it on the spot. (It's presumably a lot harder now; so few people smoke, and a cigarette is no longer a cheap item to give away).

This.

I've been homeless and lived in shelters, but I've never panhandled. Panhandlers are sometimes homeless, sometimes not. Sometimes mentally ill, sometimes not. I think that just as people that are on snap assistance still deserve small "luxuries", so do the homeless or panhandlers. I find it interesting how it's almost universal that people who are well off (comparatively speaking) feel entitled to tell others how to spend their money even though they know next to nothing about their situation. You're providing comfort. If you're not comfortable with the type of comfort you may be providing, then don't give. Being homeless, or extremely poor is soul crushing; it does a hell of a number on your head. I still have mental and emotional struggles from my stint in the shelters, over three years ago now. Their day to day concerns, to be frank, are usually things that others that have a more stable existence never think about. Some people are homeless or panhandlers through their own efforts (or lack thereof) and some are not. In my view, our compassion shouldn't be limited by whether or not someone has made a mistake. What many don't realize is that as you slip further and further into poverty, the smallest financial error can have grave consequences, but once you've hit a certain point it becomes incredibly difficult to climb your way out ever again. I myself was very fortunate. Many are not.

Ironically, the most irresponsible, and unethical panhandlers I knew where a husband/wife team that were very religious Christians. They took the "Lord will provide" idea absolutely literally.
 
Ok, thanks bilby, and braces_for_impact for sharing.

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If it makes their plight a bit easier, then I did what I intended.

Yes, I have no problem with that. Sounds kind-hearted.

If you want a better understanding of panhandlers in general then this link may help you:

http://www.popcenter.org/problems/panhandling/
Thanks, that was a long article, but this stuck out to me:

Article said:
Their opinions are also shaped by their actual exposure to panhandling—the more people are panhandled, the less sympathetic they are toward panhandlers.11 While begging is discouraged on most philosophical grounds and by most major religions, many people feel torn about whether to give money to panhandlers.12


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However, some don't because they don't want to and some don't because of mental illness. In any case, at least in the US, no one starves. If you're asked for money, just keep walking.

Yeah, mental illness is a factor, and I don’t think starvation is a huge problem. I imagine most are hungry from time to time, if not all the time; but not really starving to death.

I think I have to just keep walking.

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One of the reasons they are homeless is because they don't deal well with the world. They would rather move on, than fight over a piece of cardboard on the sidewalk. I've never had a problem with a homeless person, unless they were drunk. Even then, they move on. There are shelters in my area. They could easily walk to one and have a dry place to sleep, but there are restrictions. Smoking is not allowed and you can't leave and get back in during the night. The people who remain on the streets at night have decided they don't want that. I'm not going to try and convince them they have made a bad choice. They know that.

All I can do is make them someone else's problem.

I wish I could help them

Yes, I agree completely. Actually my dad told me this a couple years ago. Many don’t like the “restrictions” of having to stay in at night, not being able to come and go when they please any time of the night.

I wish I could help them too. That’s why I’m torn about giving them money.


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If you're that concerned about giving fifty cents to a few bucks to a homeless person once or twice a month you probably shouldn't be giving anything.

Let them spend it on booze, cigarettes, whatever, they're human beings who need to have some semblance of enjoyment in their life.

Yeah

I give money to the local food bank.
A couple years back I decided to give food to a homeless shelter. I wanted to physically deliver food into the hands of another person.
This was actually harder than I thought. Food gets donated a lot so most places aren’t looking for that. I researched some charitable places in my area but most were looking for people to volunteer during the week and I couldn’t do that because of work. I found a homeless Men’s shelter which had 2 options. One was to provide a hot meal. This had to be done in person and physically serve it at dinner time. It also had to be large enough to feed all 400 men staying at the shelter. The second option was to provide bagged lunches. These could be dropped off and it didn’t matter how many were provided. I decided to make about 60 bagged lunches which included a small sandwich, banana, granola bar, crackers, chocolate, and a bottled water. Most of the stuff I found was on sale or from the dollar store. Altogether I think I spent about 90 bucks or a $1.50 per lunch bag.
I felt my money went farther that way.

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In my view, our compassion shouldn't be limited by whether or not someone has made a mistake. What many don't realize is that as you slip further and further into poverty, the smallest financial error can have grave consequences, but once you've hit a certain point it becomes incredibly difficult to climb your way out ever again.

Yes

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Speaking as someone who has slept a few nights under an overpass, I would just like to mention that a quarter bottle of cheap whiskey and half a pack of cigarettes are most assuredly 'survival items'.

I wouldn't expect people who haven't experienced that situation to understand that.

But it's true.

One of the biggest risks to your life in that situation is suicide. Survival is not about avoiding lung cancer in thirty years; or not starving in a few days time; it's about choosing not to step in front of a train today.

Food is generally not too hard to come by. But nobody wants to help you get a drink. And most smokers will let you have one ciggy, but will be offended if you don't light it on the spot. (It's presumably a lot harder now; so few people smoke, and a cigarette is no longer a cheap item to give away).

Reading this reminded me of the old guy at the end of this video:

[YOUTUBE]Uletl1MAeQ8[/YOUTUBE]
 
I want some advice on giving money to homeless people or panhandlers.

Once I knew this old homeless guy who lived in a "tent", (more like a tarp), near a highway. I would stop and check on him every so often. I would actually look for the guy. Took him to the Salvation Army and bought him a bike and a blanket. Took him to a Motel 6, where he was allowed to stay on very cold days. When I would give him money he would always give me something back, like 5 bucks, or a potato salad in his "camp", or advice...He's dead now.
 
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