Pastor Kevin Swanson Calls For Executing Gays At Event Attended By GOP Candidates [VIDEO]

[Potoooooooo]

http://www.joemygod.com/2015/11/06/...ys-at-event-attended-by-gop-candidates-video/



“There are instances in which both the Old and New Testament speak to the matter with unbelievable clarity. You know what that sin is – it’s the sin of homosexuality. In fact in Romans 1 Paul affirms that this particular sin is worthy of death. The Old and New Testament, I believe both speak with authority and we outta receive it.” – Pastor Kevin Swanson, speaking today at his “religious liberty convention” where Mike Huckabee, Ted Cruz, and Bobby Jindal were interviewed on the stage by Swanson.

But wait there’s more

 

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“There are instances in which both the Old and New Testament speak to the matter with unbelievable clarity. You know what that sin is – it’s the sin of homosexuality. In fact in Romans 1 Paul affirms that this particular sin is worthy of death. The Old and New Testament, I believe both speak with authority and we outta receive it.” – Pastor Kevin Swanson, speaking today at his “religious liberty convention” where Mike Huckabee, Ted Cruz, and Bobby Jindal were interviewed on the stage by Swanson.

But wait there’s more

A sin being worthy of death and accepting that as true and a call for others to believe that is not a call for executing anyone. It's a message that it's very (very) bad. One might say that rape is worthy of death, but that isn't an invitation to kill rapists. It's a message to regard something as being so bad that, well, it's worthy of death. Why would the title be so distorted?

 

[barbos]

ISIS agrees with this guy

 

[zorq]

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“There are instances in which both the Old and New Testament speak to the matter with unbelievable clarity. You know what that sin is – it’s the sin of homosexuality. In fact in Romans 1 Paul affirms that this particular sin is worthy of death. The Old and New Testament, I believe both speak with authority and we outta receive it.” – Pastor Kevin Swanson, speaking today at his “religious liberty convention” where Mike Huckabee, Ted Cruz, and Bobby Jindal were interviewed on the stage by Swanson.

But wait there’s more

A sin being worthy of death and accepting that as true and a call for others to believe that is not a call for executing anyone. It's a message that it's very (very) bad. One might say that rape is worthy of death, but that isn't an invitation to kill rapists. It's a message to regard something as being so bad that, well, it's worthy of death. Why would the title be so distorted?

Once we accept that homosexuality is so bad that it is worthy of death.... What should we do with this knowledge?

Once we accepted that children deserve to be raised in households that are not abusive regardless of who sired or birthed them we enacted laws and employed the force of government agents to help us remove children from those abusive households.

What does it mean to call for actions to be considered worthy of death if there is no impetus behind the call to rebalance the societal rules of justice to align with these called for beliefs?

 

[fast]

A sin being worthy of death and accepting that as true and a call for others to believe that is not a call for executing anyone. It's a message that it's very (very) bad. One might say that rape is worthy of death, but that isn't an invitation to kill rapists. It's a message to regard something as being so bad that, well, it's worthy of death. Why would the title be so distorted?

Once we accept that homosexuality is so bad that it is worthy of death.... What should we do with this knowledge?

Once we accepted that children deserve to be raised in households that are not abusive regardless of who sired or birthed them we enacted laws and employed the force of government agents to help us remove children from those abusive households.

What does it mean to call for actions to be considered worthy of death if there is no impetus behind the call to rebalance the societal rules of justice to align with these called for beliefs?

I suppose a supporter of the belief that homosexuality is sin would encourage what is believed to be good behavior and discourage what is believed to be bad behavior. If you're told that a homosexual deserves to die yet told to not kill anyone, then I don't suppose you should encourage any rules of justice that led to what is deserved.

A man that fails to take the trash out for his wife after being told to four times might deserve to be slapped upside the head with one hand and have a frying pan in the other hand shaken at him (during the fourth quarter of a football game with 4 minutes on the clock), but if it's also the case that no wife shall harm, injure, maim, or otherwise bring undue duress to her husband (or any of his electronic devices that use electricity), then she should not take it upon herself to ensure that he gets what he deserves: she needs to leave it up to a higher power.

 

[zorq]

Once we accept that homosexuality is so bad that it is worthy of death.... What should we do with this knowledge?

Once we accepted that children deserve to be raised in households that are not abusive regardless of who sired or birthed them we enacted laws and employed the force of government agents to help us remove children from those abusive households.

What does it mean to call for actions to be considered worthy of death if there is no impetus behind the call to rebalance the societal rules of justice to align with these called for beliefs?

I suppose a supporter of the belief that homosexuality is sin would encourage what is believed to be good behavior and discourage what is believed to be bad behavior. If you're told that a homosexual deserves to die yet told to not kill anyone, then I don't suppose you should encourage any rules of justice that led to what is deserved.

Aren't rules of justice allowed nuance and exceptions?

A man that fails to take the trash out for his wife after being told to four times might deserve to be slapped upside the head with one hand and have a frying pan in the other hand shaken at him (during the fourth quarter of a football game with 4 minutes on the clock), but if it's also the case that no wife shall harm, injure, maim, or otherwise bring undue duress to her husband (or any of his electronic devices that use electricity), then she should not take it upon herself to ensure that he gets what he deserves: she needs to leave it up to a higher power.

A higher power like the force of the law, perhaps? If she can convince a large majority of the people in her community that the four strikes and slapped rule and slapped rule is fair, just, and moral, what should we expect to happen in that community?

 

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“There are instances in which both the Old and New Testament speak to the matter with unbelievable clarity. You know what that sin is – it’s the sin of homosexuality. In fact in Romans 1 Paul affirms that this particular sin is worthy of death. The Old and New Testament, I believe both speak with authority and we outta receive it.” – Pastor Kevin Swanson, speaking today at his “religious liberty convention” where Mike Huckabee, Ted Cruz, and Bobby Jindal were interviewed on the stage by Swanson.

But wait there’s more

A sin being worthy of death and accepting that as true and a call for others to believe that is not a call for executing anyone. It's a message that it's very (very) bad. One might say that rape is worthy of death, but that isn't an invitation to kill rapists. It's a message to regard something as being so bad that, well, it's worthy of death. Why would the title be so distorted?

The title really isn’t distorted. The word used is “execute”, which generally is used in reference to a legal process to kill someone. And Swanson and his cohorts advocate changing the law to make homosexuality a capital crime. Obviously even most Christians wouldn’t consider promoting or advocating this idea. But these pigs do seem to mean what they say.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/swanson-tell-gay-couples-die-their-wedding-day

Taking a page from Gordon Klingenschmitt, who said that photographers should print “worthy of death” on photos of the weddings of same-sex couples, Swanson said that guests can “attend the wedding and hold up the sign Leviticus 20:13 word for word: ‘If a man sleeps with a man as he sleeps with a woman the two of them have committed an abomination and they shall both be put to death.’ You could attend a wedding and hold up that sign.”

At Swanson’s conference, is another turd (Phillip Kayser) handing out pamphlets as well as being one of Swanson’s speakers:
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/death-penalty-gays-literature-right-wing-conference

In the pamphlet, “Is The Death Penalty Just?,” Kayser unsurprisingly concludes that the death penalty is in fact just, and lists homosexuality among the offenses deserving of capital punishment. Ironically for a "religious liberties" summit, he also claims that the government should treat "breaking the Sabbath," "blasphemy and cursing God publicly," "publicly sacrificing to other gods" and "apostasy" as death penalty crimes as well.

He writes that government officials are "subject to Biblical statutes and judgments," claiming that "Christians should advocate the full implementation of all God's civil penalties in every age.... Every Old Testament statue continues on the books, and without those statutes, we could not have a consistent ethnical standard."

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

It's nice how these sorts of Xians pick and choose what old testament "Laws of Moses" they wish to hold as still operative and which aren't. We don't see them advocating stoning people who pick up firewood on a Sunday. Or allowing us to sell our teenaged daughters into concubinage.

Exodus 21
⁷ And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.
⁸ If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her.

 

[Alias2]

Why isn't the homosexual mafia clogging the media with outrage over this? Because Muslims and homosexuals are both a protected class by the left. .Cowards and hypocrites.http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2015/07/01/islamic-protesters-burn-lgbt-flag-calling-it-offensive/

 

[beero1000]

"The homosexual mafia" is a great image. Now I'm re-imagining classic mob movies in that light. Wow! Goodfellas indeed.

 

[GenesisNemesis]

I'm sure he just means "spiritual death"!

 

[Keith&Co.]

Why isn't the homosexual mafia clogging the media with outrage over this?

my son used to get some bizarre feedback when he objected to racist jokes. The people telling the joke would say he could only be half-offended, or that his white half should laugh at the joke.

I had a similar issue in the Navy. If i was offended at an antisemitic joke, they swore they hadn't known i was Jewish.
When i objected to an obscene joke about Japanese whores, the guy apologized, quite sincerely, because he'd thought my wife was black, not Japanese.

it is amusing to think that i have to BE part of a demographic to know what i do or do not find funny, or to wait until my ideological masters issue our stance on outrages.

Why don't you grow up, Alias2, or at least learn how to treat those of us who have.

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Why isn't the homosexual mafia clogging the media with outrage over this?

You do realize that the pastor in the OP title is Christain, right?

 

[Alias2]

my son used to get some bizarre feedback when he objected to racist jokes. The people telling the joke would say he could only be half-offended, or that his white half should laugh at the joke.

I had a similar issue in the Navy. If i was offended at an antisemitic joke, they swore they hadn't known i was Jewish.
When i objected to an obscene joke about Japanese whores, the guy apologized, quite sincerely, because he'd thought my wife was black, not Japanese.

it is amusing to think that i have to BE part of a demographic to know what i do or do not find funny, or to wait until my ideological masters issue our stance on outrages.

Why don't you grow up, Alias2, or at least learn how to treat those of us who have.

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Why isn't the homosexual mafia clogging the media with outrage over this?

You do realize that the pastor in the OP title is Christain, right?

Anyone who wants to kill homosexuals is a wolf in sheep's clothing, not a Christian. You're confused. Islam is the religion that teaches killing others because of their sin, mot Christians.

 

[Crazy Eddie]

Once we accept that homosexuality is so bad that it is worthy of death.... What should we do with this knowledge?

Once we accepted that children deserve to be raised in households that are not abusive regardless of who sired or birthed them we enacted laws and employed the force of government agents to help us remove children from those abusive households.

What does it mean to call for actions to be considered worthy of death if there is no impetus behind the call to rebalance the societal rules of justice to align with these called for beliefs?

I suppose a supporter of the belief that homosexuality is sin would encourage what is believed to be good behavior and discourage what is believed to be bad behavior. If you're told that a homosexual deserves to die yet told to not kill anyone, then I don't suppose you should encourage any rules of justice that led to what is deserved.

If you do not support a death penalty for homosexuals, it is because you do not REALLY believe that homosexuals deserve to die. Simple as that.

And modern (American) Christians simply don't. They believe that the BIBLE says they deserve to die, and they believe that the Bible is correct, but they keep those two statements separate as a matter of cognitive dissonance. Mainly this is because executing people because of their sexual orientation is a barbaric and shitty thing to do and even Christians know this on some level.

A man that fails to take the trash out for his wife after being told to four times might deserve to be slapped upside the head with one hand and have a frying pan in the other hand shaken at him (during the fourth quarter of a football game with 4 minutes on the clock), but if it's also the case that no wife shall harm, injure, maim, or otherwise bring undue duress to her husband...

... then he doesn't ACTUALLy deserve to be slapped upside the head and/or threatened with a frying pan. The second case contradicts the first: he either deserves to be punished by his wife, or he doesn't. If he deserves it, he gets it. If the rules say he can't be treated that way, it's because he doesn't deserve to be treated that way.

Society makes these rules because people collectively decide what fair treatment looks like from one person to the next. If society judges that wives beating their husbands or husbands beating their wives is acceptable under specific circumstances -- e.g. he/she deserves it -- then this is expected to happen when those circumstances arise. If, on the other hand, we collectively decide "beating up your spouse is not okay. No exceptions" Then we hold that standard to ALL circumstances.

Killing people for their sexual preferences is NOT acceptable. We don't do that here. Christians know this too, and they've internalized this belief, which is why they do not genuinely believe that homosexuals deserve to die.

 

[Crazy Eddie]

"The homosexual mafia" is a great image. Now I'm re-imagining classic mob movies in that light. Wow! Goodfellas indeed.

[YOUTUBE]https://youtu.be/qnQpfcYZhx8[/YOUTUBE]

They're gonna make you an offer that's too fabulous to refuse.

 

[dystopian]

Anyone who wants to kill homosexuals is a wolf in sheep's clothing, not a Christian. You're confused. Islam is the religion that teaches killing others because of their sin, mot Christians.

Leviticus 20:9-16 called, reminding you that gays, adulterers, and every teenager ever, are to be put to death. Also, 2 Chronicles 15:13 is drunkingly shouting in the background of the call, telling you to put to death everyone who doesn't seek god. The rest of the bible verses telling you to kill people for one reason or another decided to just assume you'd get the message without them needing to make it clear.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Anyone who wants to kill homosexuals is a wolf in sheep's clothing, not a Christian.

And you're the one to decide who the real Christains are because.....?

You're confused. Islam is the religion that teaches killing others because of their sin, mot Christians.

You ought to read The Books a few more times, alias.

 

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If you do not support a death penalty for homosexuals, it is because you do not REALLY believe that homosexuals deserve to die. Simple as that.

Not if you believe both 1) homosexuals are worthy of death and 2) you shall not kill. Plus, there's a disconnect between believing one is worthy of death and a stance on capital punishment. One could easily witness an atrocity and believe one is worthy of death yet not budge on their death by man stance.

I think those trespassing while living in tent cities should be forcibly removed, but I also don't think it's my place to remove them.

 

[arkirk]

People who hang out with that pastor are dangerous. Keep that in mind at the ballot box. The guy is clearly psychotic. It looks like he believes the shit he spouts. Of course, that is the rule for Elmer Gantry types. Somehow I see this dude more as in alignment with Hitler.

 

[arkirk]

If you do not support a death penalty for homosexuals, it is because you do not REALLY believe that homosexuals deserve to die. Simple as that.

Not if you believe both 1) homosexuals are worthy of death and 2) you shall not kill. Plus, there's a disconnect between believing one is worthy of death and a stance on capital punishment. One could easily witness an atrocity and believe one is worthy of death yet not budge on their death by man stance.

I think those trespassing while living in tent cities should be forcibly removed, but I also don't think it's my place to remove them.

Is this trespassing tent city phenomenon something happening in South Carolina?