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Trump called on Monday for the United States to bar all Muslims from entering the country until the nation’s leaders can “figure out what is going on,” an extraordinary escalation of his harsh rhetoric aimed at members of the Islamic faith in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks in Paris and San Bernardino, Calif.
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/fir...s-for-banning-muslims-from-entering-u-s/?_r=0

A lot of people in this forum are anti-Islam and a few also make sweeping statements about all Muslims. So, I wonder do you agree with Trump or disagree?

Also:
Mr. Trump has a track record of making surprising and even extreme comments whenever he is overtaken in opinion polls by other Republican candidates – as happened on Monday just hours before he issued his statement about Muslims. A new Monmouth University survey of likely Iowa Republican caucus-goers found that Mr. Trump had slipped from his recent top spot in the state, ...

Mr. Trump, who boasts about his strong poll numbers at the beginning of virtually every campaign speech, launched an unusually stinging attack against Ben Carson, another Republican candidate, when Mr. Carson took a lead in Iowa polls this fall; Mr. Trump, citing Mr. Carson’s memoir about his sometimes-violent youth, called him “pathological” and compared his state of mind to a child molester’s.

Do you think that Trump's strategy to be the loudest idiot in a rally filled with idiots will be successful in enabling him to win the GOP primary?
 
Do you think that Trump's strategy to be the biggest idiot in a rally filled with idiots will be successful in enabling him to win the GOP primary?

It's possible. The man's staying power has turned out to be remarkable. It would be really funny to have him in the general election, so I hope that happens and he just doesn't go away anytime soon.
 
I totally agree. How else are we going to keep out the China Man?


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Here is the thing I think about with stuff like this: imagine that nobody would know what your opinion or vote for politicians on muslim immigration would be. Therefore no pats on the head or slaps in the face about it. No dopamine rush from virtue signaling. Would that change people's opinions or choices?

Personally I think that low, slow islamic immigration would be ok. A higher amount is not wise. I don't have a firm number, but in principle a large or sudden influx of muslims is a terrible idea.
 
Do you think that Trump's strategy to be the biggest idiot in a rally filled with idiots will be successful in enabling him to win the GOP primary?

It's possible. The man's staying power has turned out to be remarkable. It would be really funny to have him in the general election, so I hope that happens and he just doesn't go away anytime soon.

+1 for the hilarity of Trump in the general camp. But then.. that puts him a step away from the presidency, which, while highly unlikely, is utterly terrifying.
 
If we got rid of all the muslims, who would I buy my vodka from?
 
We should start calling muslim extremists "Muslim Purists" instead.
 
Trump is a drooling idiot, but we have lots of idiots who shriek and clap when he does this sort of crap. I won't discount the possibility of him winning the GOP primary. On the other hand, in Syria, when you graduate from college, you get drafted. Or run. We could have a chance to get a load of well educated citizens who can tell us from first hand experience how bad forms of Islam are bad news and how to fight it.
 
Trump is a drooling idiot, but we have lots of idiots who shriek and clap when he does this sort of crap. I won't discount the possibility of him winning the GOP primary. On the other hand, in Syria, when you graduate from college, you get drafted. Or run. We could have a chance to get a load of well educated citizens who can tell us from first hand experience how bad forms of Islam are bad news and how to fight it.
Trump is not an idiot.
 
Trump is a drooling idiot, but we have lots of idiots who shriek and clap when he does this sort of crap. I won't discount the possibility of him winning the GOP primary. On the other hand, in Syria, when you graduate from college, you get drafted. Or run. We could have a chance to get a load of well educated citizens who can tell us from first hand experience how bad forms of Islam are bad news and how to fight it.
Trump is not an idiot.

Fast is right. Trump is smart and amoral...a dangerous combination. You don't think he can win..watch out! I didn't think the people were "stupid enough" to elect Nixon, Reagan, or either Bush. I won't entirely discount the chance of him becoming our fearless leader...and fearless he is...that seemed to be Hitler's forte too.
 
It looks like England will be banning das Trump from going there. Mike the Savage Weinie is already banned and was quite pissed at that.
 
Trump is a drooling idiot, but we have lots of idiots who shriek and clap when he does this sort of crap. I won't discount the possibility of him winning the GOP primary. On the other hand, in Syria, when you graduate from college, you get drafted. Or run. We could have a chance to get a load of well educated citizens who can tell us from first hand experience how bad forms of Islam are bad news and how to fight it.
Trump is not an idiot.
He's an idiot in much the same way Ben Carson is an idiot. Sure, great doctor, but not a fucking clue outside the sphere of his domain.
 
The thought of Trump as President is quite intriguing. Think of it...a serious border wall and Israeli style security zone from the gulf to the coast of California; the banning Muslim immigration; deportations of non-citizen Muslims; a law of mass detention and 'de-naturalization' for the troublesome naturalized Muslims; convoys of illegals shipped to labor camps (to build the wall), then booted out.


Quite thrilling, really. ;)
 
Trump is not an idiot.

Fast is right. Trump is smart and amoral...a dangerous combination. You don't think he can win..watch out! I didn't think the people were "stupid enough" to elect Nixon, Reagan, or either Bush. I won't entirely discount the chance of him becoming our fearless leader...and fearless he is...that seemed to be Hitler's forte too.
Nixon was a politician, a crook, but a long time politician. Nixon would probably push the first domino over to help outlast in the Cold War with the whole China visit. He was a crook, but also the head of a corrupt party that really fucked up.

HW Bush was a professional politician, former head of the CIA (and the last decent Republican apparently to get elected to national office).

Comparing those three to Trump?! That is insane. Nixon and and HW Bush weren't stupid in much of any field.

Reagan and W on the other hand, while incompetent, they at least had some grasp of the world diplomacy.

Trump can not win a battleground state. That simple. Especially against Clinton.
 
...deportations of non-citizen Muslims; a law of mass detention and 'de-naturalization' for the troublesome naturalized Muslims; convoys of illegals shipped to labor camps (to build the wall), then booted out.

While you force illegals to build the Great Wall II... If some die, are you going to force other illegals to bury them? After they die, will you expect the government to confiscate their gold teeth and jewelry? When they get sent to the detention camps do you expect the government to appropriate their property? Should they wear any special uniforms or markings on their clothing in case they escape for easy identification?

How do you want to handle the problem of "half Muslims?" Maybe there should be a law about interbreeding?
 
...deportations of non-citizen Muslims; a law of mass detention and 'de-naturalization' for the troublesome naturalized Muslims; convoys of illegals shipped to labor camps (to build the wall), then booted out.

While you force illegals to build the Great Wall II... If some die, are you going to force other illegals to bury them? After they die, will you expect the government to confiscate their gold teeth and jewelry? When they get sent to the detention camps do you expect the government to appropriate their property? Should they wear any special uniforms or markings on their clothing in case they escape for easy identification?

How do you want to handle the problem of half Muslims? Maybe there should be a law about interbreeding?
This is an example of maxis interruptus.
 
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