Best parallels between specific terrorist attacks

[repoman]

I was thinking about how many of us like to draw parallels between violent incidents. For example, maybe the Oklahoma city bombing and the African Embassy bombings could be compared.

Or Eric Rudolph and this new nutcase or maybe Rudolph is better compared to someone else.

It is a huge topic and it requires mental discipline to not get on your own pet hobby horse.

 

[untermensche]

What exactly is the purpose?

Two acts do come to mind though.

The Soviet Union's invasion of Afghanistan and the US invasion of Iraq.

But this is terrorism of the large scale, state terrorism.

 

[bilby]

What exactly is the purpose?

Two acts do come to mind though.

The Soviet Union's invasion of Afghanistan and the US invasion of Iraq.

But this is terrorism of the large scale, state terrorism.

It is a huge topic and it requires mental discipline to not get on your own pet hobby horse.

Yup, you picked it.

 

[barbos]

What exactly is the purpose?

Two acts do come to mind though.

The Soviet Union's invasion of Afghanistan and the US invasion of Iraq.

But this is terrorism of the large scale, state terrorism.

And in both cases US is responsible.

 

[Crazy Eddie]

Okay, I'll bite.

I think the San Bernardino attacks have a few things in common with the Gideon Massacre. Two things that jump out at me are the fact that the couple didn't seem to have full control of the situation and allowed things to spiral out of their control quickly. The second is that the husband was apparently radicalized by -- and goaded into -- this attack by what appears to be an extremely strong willed wife. I don't think the husband is an alcoholic, though, and neither of them acted through proxies (e.g. an armed military unit) so that parallel breaks down at a certain point, but as far as the personalities involved there are similarities.

The planned parenthood attack, on the other hand, is probably closer to the Dyson Incident.. The attacker clearly feels justified in what he did, and he believes that his actions will prevent further suffering in the future. This reasoning is wrapped up in a lot of personal emotional turmoil that is probably being expressed irrationally through his cause. Of course, unlike Miss Connor, this guy actually managed to kill someone, which is unfortunate.

The Paris Attacks: totally the Battle of Astana. But I've been thinking for a while now that ISIS is basically the GLA (and an EA games representative known only as "Centauri" recently kidnapped the top-scoring players of "Command and Conquer Generals" and put them in charge of NATO).

 

[untermensche]

It is a huge topic and it requires mental discipline to not get on your own pet hobby horse.

Yup, you picked it.

So in other words, you don't have a fucking thing to say but like a three year old you point to something you see as against the rules.

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What exactly is the purpose?

Two acts do come to mind though.

The Soviet Union's invasion of Afghanistan and the US invasion of Iraq.

But this is terrorism of the large scale, state terrorism.

And in both cases US is responsible.

How is the US responsible for the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan?

 

[iolo]

What terrorist incidents in the US have in common is guns. Latest incident over there: twenty dead. Here - one man badly cut.

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

The Russian nihilists come to mind. Destroy the state by terrorism and then pick up the pieces later. The plan is to have no plan but to have a goal.
Islamic terrorism strikes me as similar in some ways.

 

[untermensche]

The Russian nihilists come to mind. Destroy the state by terrorism and then pick up the pieces later. The plan is to have no plan but to have a goal.
Islamic terrorism strikes me as similar in some ways.

What Russian nihilist?

What are you talking about?

No Russian leader was motivated by nihilism. They were all motivated by the same thing most leaders are motivated by, a lust for power and recognition.

 

[whichphilosophy]

What exactly is the purpose?

Two acts do come to mind though.

The Soviet Union's invasion of Afghanistan and the US invasion of Iraq.

But this is terrorism of the large scale, state terrorism.

Then of course the US invasion of Afghanistan, and of course regime change in Libya and turmoil in Syria

 

[untermensche]

What exactly is the purpose?

Two acts do come to mind though.

The Soviet Union's invasion of Afghanistan and the US invasion of Iraq.

But this is terrorism of the large scale, state terrorism.

Then of course the US invasion of Afghanistan, and of course regime change in Libya and turmoil in Syria

The US effort at regime change in Afghanistan would certainly qualify as terrorism.

There were legitimate targets in Afghanistan in 2001.

But the planners were really planning an invasion of Iraq so less than optimal effort was put into securing those targets.

There are many Americans making millions from these endless wars. For them it is not a good idea to win.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

Guy Fawks = Shoe bomber.

 

[bilby]

Yup, you picked it.

So in other words, you don't have a fucking thing to say but like a three year old you point to something you see as against the rules.

Pretty much. I prefer to think that it is more like a five year old though.

If you don't like being laughed at for your predictability, then you could always try being less boringly predictable. You really are not under any obligation to shoehorn your favourite topic of discussion into EVERY thread.

 

[untermensche]

So in other words, you don't have a fucking thing to say but like a three year old you point to something you see as against the rules.

Pretty much. I prefer to think that it is more like a five year old though.

If you don't like being laughed at for your predictability, then you could always try being less boringly predictable. You really are not under any obligation to shoehorn your favourite topic of discussion into EVERY thread.

When threads are custom made to address your hobby horse and are extremely open ended it is no crime to address it.

That is how arguments are improved you know.

 

[bilby]

Pretty much. I prefer to think that it is more like a five year old though.

If you don't like being laughed at for your predictability, then you could always try being less boringly predictable. You really are not under any obligation to shoehorn your favourite topic of discussion into EVERY thread.

When threads are custom made to address your hobby horse and are extremely open ended it is no crime to address it.

That is how arguments are improved you know.

No one is suggesting it is a crime; but when you are contradicting the OP's explicit request, it is certainly very rude; And pointing out someone's rude behaviour is no crime.

That is how rude people are improved you know.

 

[untermensche]

When threads are custom made to address your hobby horse and are extremely open ended it is no crime to address it.

That is how arguments are improved you know.

No one is suggesting it is a crime; but when you are contradicting the OP's explicit request, it is certainly very rude; And pointing out someone's rude behaviour is no crime.

That is how rude people are improved you know.

I just don't think it is possible to be rude to words on a screen.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Okay, I'll bite.

I think the San Bernardino attacks have a few things in common with the Gideon Massacre. Two things that jump out at me are the fact that the couple didn't seem to have full control of the situation and allowed things to spiral out of their control quickly. The second is that the husband was apparently radicalized by -- and goaded into -- this attack by what appears to be an extremely strong willed wife. I don't think the husband is an alcoholic, though, and neither of them acted through proxies (e.g. an armed military unit) so that parallel breaks down at a certain point, but as far as the personalities involved there are similarities.

No--old data. It now appears they were both radicals before they ever met.

 

[bilby]

No one is suggesting it is a crime; but when you are contradicting the OP's explicit request, it is certainly very rude; And pointing out someone's rude behaviour is no crime.

That is how rude people are improved you know.

I just don't think it is possible to be rude to words on a screen.

Well unless repoman is an example of an extraordinary leap in Artificial Intelligence technology, your rudeness was to the person who typed those words, not the words themselves.

I just don't think it is possible that you don't understand that.

 

[untermensche]

I just don't think it is possible to be rude to words on a screen.

Well unless repoman is an example of an extraordinary leap in Artificial Intelligence technology, your rudeness was to the person who typed those words, not the words themselves.

I just don't think it is possible that you don't understand that.

No rudeness at all.

Disagreement.

 

[iolo]

Well, I've heard of the Russian Nihilists, even if the concept has a different name in America, teabag or something.