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[Elixir]

TRUMP. How about a picture of TRUMP? Let's talk about TRUMP. TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP...
I'm gonna throw up. The mainstream media are doing their best to get that clown elected. You can't turn on CNN or MSNBC without seeing the word TRUMP, and usually not without seeing his ugly mug as well. They turn the cameras on any stage he is expected to appear on an hour before he gets there, and leave the cameras on the empty stage for an hour after he's left. Meanwhile, if you want to catch Berie's speech ... you might find it on C-Span. Trump is like a best-selling train-wreck, and the newzers don't seem to realize the extent to which they are aiding and abetting him. Or else they either don't give a damn or actually want him elected. I think that's the answer to these folks' question:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153245715096577&set=gm.1121107584576433&type=3&theater

 

[Trausti]

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[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ1L013k5Hw[/YOUTUBE]

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[Tom Sawyer]

TRUMP. How about a picture of TRUMP? Let's talk about TRUMP. TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP...
I'm gonna throw up. The mainstream media are doing their best to get that clown elected. You can't turn on CNN or MSNBC without seeing the word TRUMP, and usually not without seeing his ugly mug as well. They turn the cameras on any stage he is expected to appear on an hour before he gets there, and leave the cameras on the empty stage for an hour after he's left. Meanwhile, if you want to catch Berie's speech ... you might find it on C-Span. Trump is like a best-selling train-wreck, and the newzers don't seem to realize the extent to which they are aiding and abetting him. Or else they either don't give a damn or actually want him elected. I think that's the answer to these folks' question:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153245715096577&set=gm.1121107584576433&type=3&theater

I think it's more along the lines of they don't give a damn and just want higher ratings. Wall-to-wall Trump coverage gets more viewers and this leads to higher advertising revenues. That's the goal of CNN, not "informing the viewers" or any tripe like that. Whether it's an ebola scare, a plane crash or an orange-haired train wreck, when they find something that the viewers seem to be willing to tune in for, they milk the fuck out of it for as long as they can.

Sanders spends most of his time talking about valid and well thought out policy positions. That's about two minutes of coverage before people are picking up the remote and seeing if there's a car chase on somewhere else. Shareholders have rights too and the company is doing them a disservice if they don't try to maximize their profit margins.

 

[prideandfall]

I think it's more along the lines of they don't give a damn and just want higher ratings.

... /blink/

wait, are there are actually grown ass adults in the US that honestly think that any 24 hours news channel is anything besides a regular TV channel that has its sole purpose and driving goal being higher ratings and more advertising money?
is that seriously even a subject of contention in any way?

"the mainstream media" doesn't give a shit who gets elected (policy or decency wise) they just give the most coverage to whomever is generating the most buzz.
the general population is what is driving the trump situation, not the media.

 

[Malintent]

I think it's more along the lines of they don't give a damn and just want higher ratings.

... /blink/

wait, are there are actually grown ass adults in the US that honestly think that any 24 hours news channel is anything besides a regular TV channel that has its sole purpose and driving goal being higher ratings and more advertising money?
is that seriously even a subject of contention in any way?

"the mainstream media" doesn't give a shit who gets elected (policy or decency wise) they just give the most coverage to whomever is generating the most buzz.
the general population is what is driving the trump situation, not the media.

Yes. and it is worse than that... the average American cannot tell the difference between an advertisement and a news article... forget about 'entertainment'..

 

[prideandfall]

Yes. and it is worse than that... the average American cannot tell the difference between an advertisement and a news article... forget about 'entertainment'..

yes but that's because the average american is literally, physically, retarded.
i still don't see how that's the fault of "the media" though.

 

[Elixir]

TRUMP. How about a picture of TRUMP? Let's talk about TRUMP. TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP...
I'm gonna throw up. The mainstream media are doing their best to get that clown elected. You can't turn on CNN or MSNBC without seeing the word TRUMP, and usually not without seeing his ugly mug as well. They turn the cameras on any stage he is expected to appear on an hour before he gets there, and leave the cameras on the empty stage for an hour after he's left. Meanwhile, if you want to catch Berie's speech ... you might find it on C-Span. Trump is like a best-selling train-wreck, and the newzers don't seem to realize the extent to which they are aiding and abetting him. Or else they either don't give a damn or actually want him elected. I think that's the answer to these folks' question:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153245715096577&set=gm.1121107584576433&type=3&theater

I think it's more along the lines of they don't give a damn and just want higher ratings. Wall-to-wall Trump coverage gets more viewers and this leads to higher advertising revenues. That's the goal of CNN, not "informing the viewers" or any tripe like that. Whether it's an ebola scare, a plane crash or an orange-haired train wreck, when they find something that the viewers seem to be willing to tune in for, they milk the fuck out of it for as long as they can.

Sanders spends most of his time talking about valid and well thought out policy positions. That's about two minutes of coverage before people are picking up the remote and seeing if there's a car chase on somewhere else. Shareholders have rights too and the company is doing them a disservice if they don't try to maximize their profit margins.

Yup. I guess the idea that entities representing themselves as news sources might have any social responsibility is just naiveté. They should be required to constantly display some kind of disclaimer "for entertainment purposes only".

 

[funinspace]

Yeah, you can't even take a piss in peace...

 

[prideandfall]

something about that picture just made me realize... Trump is a male Kardashian - just some rich asshat on the TV who got on TV for being famous and got famous by being on TV.
to amuse myself, i am not going to imagine Chloe in his place any time he does or says anything or is mentioned in any way.

 

[Elixir]

Yeah, you can't even take a piss in peace...

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"I don't know much about art, but I know what I like."

 

[Source]

I feel embarrassed for you Americans at the moment

You're having a demagogue moment. Comparisons between Hitler and Trump are valid.

Trump is manipulating the masses like puppet master in chief.

Good luck with that if he gets to be commander in chief.

 

[rousseau]

Yea, makes you wonder to what extent his popularity is attributable to his being on media validating his leadership-qualities in people's minds.

In lieu of actually understanding what policy positions are good for their country, most Americans think 'on tv a lot' = credible leader.

The scary thing is if he somehow manages to get elected this dynamic is going to get a lot fucking worse. Like a feedback loop: stupidity breeds more stupidity.

 

[prideandfall]

Yea, makes you wonder to what extent his popularity is attributable to his being on media validating his leadership-qualities in people's minds.

In lieu of actually understanding what policy positions are good for their country, most Americans think 'on tv a lot' = credible leader.

The scary thing is if he somehow manages to get elected this dynamic is going to get a lot fucking worse. Like a feedback loop: stupidity breeds more stupidity.

personally i don't think it has anything to do with his media presence in the last few decades directly, and instead just comes down to something i've witnessed in the Republican party since at least Reagan:
once upon a time "the people" wanted smart capable leaders, who were serious-minded about governing, and the general ideal for an elected official was "someone with my values and opinions who's somewhat like me, only BETTER".
after reagan and doubly so after bush, this shifted to "someone who says the backwards xenophobic gay bashing delusional bullshit that i scream at my nephews during the holidays" that they can "have a beer with".

trump is simply the next logical step in that cultural direction - his actual credentials are irrelevant, it's simply that he had enough money to get in front of people and be a pig-ignorant self important jackass, which is the new golden standard for republican voters.

 

[fromderinside]

...once upon a time "the people" wanted smart capable leaders, who were serious-minded about governing, and the general ideal for an elected official was "someone with my values and opinions who's somewhat like me, only BETTER".

I think you've been spun your entire adult life prideandfal. Cleveland, Garfield, Hoover, Jackson, etc. etc, etc. Not a mind between them, some were grade school educated. cummon. Carter promoted as honest, Clinton was move tot the middle, Bush was a good beer buddy. Nope. We don't want thinkers, great statesmen, diplomats, reformers. We want magicians, good buddies, stars, you know, people we can look up to. Ha!

 

[prideandfall]

...once upon a time "the people" wanted smart capable leaders, who were serious-minded about governing, and the general ideal for an elected official was "someone with my values and opinions who's somewhat like me, only BETTER".

I think you've been spun your entire adult life prideandfal. Cleveland, Garfield, Hoover, Jackson, etc. etc, etc. Not a mind between them, some were grade school educated. cummon. Carter promoted as honest, Clinton was move tot the middle, Bush was a good beer buddy. Nope. We don't want thinkers, great statesmen, diplomats, reformers. We want magicians, good buddies, stars, you know, people we can look up to. Ha!

i said "the people" wanted that in a leader, not that the elected officials of yesteryear had any of those qualities.
in fact, as you yourself say, magicians and theater... there was some pretense about politicians presenting themselves a certain way and an agreement between people that we wanted the guy who SEEMED like the smart patriarchal figure.
in a way it forced a kind of civility on the political process even if only on the surface - but at the very least, it stopped a jabbering monkey from getting up on the stage and flinging its shit around to the delight and applause of the audience.

i'm just arguing that starting with reagan and nail-in-the-coffin with bush, the public face of what the voting masses wanted changed, and trump is the inevitable result of that.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

TRUMP. How about a picture of TRUMP? Let's talk about TRUMP. TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP...

Take it easy on the beans!

 

[fast]

The goal is to win. It is the ends (and not the means) that is paramount. Everything else comes second and thus the means on how the goal is met is secondary. Justification on approach does not come first. Winning reigns supreme and nothing will place winning in the backseat.

It's so easy to listen and think he's going too far. Why can't he be just a little more diplomatic and appeasing with his attitude and word choices? Because that doesn't clinch what grips the hearts and minds of the old school masses. If he keeps it up and hangs strong against the advice and full might of those that stand against him, he just might solidify the intensity of those that are for his success.

Winning is his focus. You can't make America great again (the true goal) unless you are in a position to do so, and if gaining constant free air time in such a way that controversy will increase the number of voters in favor of his presidency, then the path taken is a path worth taking, not because the wrongs along the way are right but because the ultimate ends outweigh the negatives of the path.

Could he make progress, get things done, and be successful at bringing about positive results as the next president? Possibly. Unless you think he'll make things disastrously worst, far more so than those with a presidential temperament, then perhaps he can bring about a better state of affairs than the expected stagnant results of the remaining candidates.

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

His economic policies would create trillion dollar a year deficits and would Brownback our economy good.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/rev...agon-for-blocking-probes-of-bush-white-house/

Joseph E. Schmitz, named by Donald Trump as a key foreign policy adviser on Monday, was forced out of his job as the Pentagon’s top watchdog a decade ago amid accusations that he protected top officials in the George W. Bush administration suspected of wrongdoing.

Oog! Do we want him advised by people like this?

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...0-11e5-85a6-2132cf446d0a_story.html?tid=sm_tw

[h=1]We met with Donald Trump. Electing him will still be a radical risk.[/h]
AS DONALD Trump observed during a visit to The Post on Monday, we have been critical of his candidacy, so give him credit for agreeing to sit down with us and answer questions for more than an hour. Unfortunately, the visit provided no reassurance regarding Mr. Trump’s fitness for the presidency. “I’m not a radical person,” he told us as he was leaving. But his answers left little doubt how radical a risk the nation would be taking in entrusting the White House to him.
...
Global warming? “I am not a great believer in man-made climate change,” he said.
..
His answer to racial disparity and urban poverty is to create jobs. But how? “Economic zones,” “incentives” and improving the “spirit” of inner-city residents. “You have to start by giving them hope and giving them spirit, and that has not taken place,” Mr. Trump said.


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Not many plans, not much to go on. He's an amateur with no depth.

 

[Will Wiley]

TRUMP. How about a picture of TRUMP? Let's talk about TRUMP. TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP...
I'm gonna throw up.

Yes Trump is bad but not as bad as recent Presidents. But...I guess if they are enorsed by the rebublocrats they must be good.
Hardly a complaint about the favourite to win...but endless whining about Trump.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/03...n-hell-or-why-id-vote-for-trump-over-hillary/

If the American presidential election winds up with Hillary Clinton vs. Donald Trump, and my passport is confiscated, and I’m somehow FORCED to choose one or the other, or I’m PAID to do so, paid well … I would vote for Trump.

My main concern is foreign policy. American foreign policy is the greatest threat to world peace, prosperity, and the environment. And when it comes to foreign policy, Hillary Clinton is an unholy disaster. From Iraq and Syria to Libya and Honduras the world is a much worse place because of her; so much so that I’d call her a war criminal who should be prosecuted.

Which goes to show that Americans couldn't give a fuck about all the orphans and widows they create around the world as long as an outsider who might not do that is not elected.

trump makes people throw up but killing hundreds of thousands of brown people and mooslims is palatable