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Child support laws run amok

He should be able to sue the wife for the cost of the lawyer.

These laws are perfect example why feminist mantra of "male privilege" is nonsense. No woman has ever been held liable for child support payments for her husband's children that are not hers.
 
He should be able to sue the wife for the cost of the lawyer.

These laws are perfect example why feminist mantra of "male privilege" is nonsense. No woman has ever been held liable for child support payments for her husband's children that are not hers.

Probably because that's really not possible.
 
He should be able to sue the wife for the cost of the lawyer.

These laws are perfect example why feminist mantra of "male privilege" is nonsense. No woman has ever been held liable for child support payments for her husband's children that are not hers.

Probably because that's really not possible.

Why not? If a woman hasn't seen her husband in 17 years and he had a kid, why wouldn't she be liable for child support?
 
The law doesn't make an exception for married couples who are estranged, nor should it. So I can understand why the child support would fall to the husband by default. What's unfair that it costs the person attorney's fees to have it corrected. That should be a matter of notification, providing some documentation that the couple has been separated, and volunteering to paternity test. Let the wife pay the legal fees if she wants to challenge it.
 
The law doesn't make an exception for married couples who are estranged, nor should it.
Why shouldn't it? This presumption of paternity is obscene to begin with, but it is much more obscene when there is no way the still husband is the father.
And of course, the law does not condemn women to pay child support for children that are not theirs.
So I can understand why the child support would fall to the husband by default.
I see no more reason why child support would fall to the husband by default any more than it falling on the wife by default if the husband fathers a child with another woman.
What's unfair that it costs the person attorney's fees to have it corrected. That should be a matter of notification, providing some documentation that the couple has been separated, and volunteering to paternity test. Let the wife pay the legal fees if she wants to challenge it.
Well that would be better than situation now, but in modern world there is no good reason to assume the husband is the father. The burden of proof should be on the mother/state, not on the husband to prove his innocence.
 
Interesting twist in the comments: NO idea if it's true but it would explain a lot...

NOT ONE PENNY to this JERK!! He made himself unavailable to be served divorce papers for 16 years! He knew damn well she could not re-marry till he agreed to a divorce!! This was probably her only avenue to getting him to “release” her & marry the real father!!! SHE’s not ‘bitter–she’s forcing him to show up for the divorce or go to jail!!
 
Interesting twist in the comments: NO idea if it's true but it would explain a lot...
Just like you to blame the man every single time even when it is clear that he is the victim of a deeply sexist system that perpetuates female privilege.
He should be suing her for child support for his children on the grounds of the 14th amendment.
 
Interesting twist in the comments: NO idea if it's true but it would explain a lot...
Just like you to blame the man every single time even when it is clear that he is the victim of a deeply sexist system that perpetuates female privilege.
He should be suing her for child support for his children on the grounds of the 14th amendment.
If this guy was avoiding being served divorce paper for 16 years, then he is partly responsible for his current situation. Especially if she was going to marry the actual father of the child. But it is just like you to immediately blame the women every single time, regardless of the actual facts of the case.
 
Why shouldn't it? This presumption of paternity is obscene to begin with, but it is much more obscene when there is no way the still husband is the father.
And of course, the law does not condemn women to pay child support for children that are not theirs.
I meant that the law shouldn't make any assumptions about how close or estranged a married couple is. If they are too lazy to get a divorce even if they are de facto separated, I'd say that's their mistake.

So I can understand why the child support would fall to the husband by default.
I see no more reason why child support would fall to the husband by default any more than it falling on the wife by default if the husband fathers a child with another woman.
Except that in that case it is obvious that the wife is not the mother.

What's unfair that it costs the person attorney's fees to have it corrected. That should be a matter of notification, providing some documentation that the couple has been separated, and volunteering to paternity test. Let the wife pay the legal fees if she wants to challenge it.
Well that would be better than situation now, but in modern world there is no good reason to assume the husband is the father. The burden of proof should be on the mother/state, not on the husband to prove his innocence.
I don't have statistics handy, but I'm willing to bet that married couples having children with each other is by far more likely.
 
The burden of proof should be on the mother/state, not on the husband to prove his innocence.

I didn't think being a parent was a matter of guilt.

And don't overlook the purpose of child support in all this.

A hint: it's in the name... ;)
 
Why ain't we blaming the child? Always the adult! Always acting like the child plays no part in all this. [/Tom-like humor]
 
He should be able to sue the wife for the cost of the lawyer.

These laws are perfect example why feminist mantra of "male privilege" is nonsense. No woman has ever been held liable for child support payments for her husband's children that are not hers.

First you automatically blame this woman specifically and all women generally for what is a state law passed by men. It just shows, again, your anti-women bent.

Second, women are "held liable for child support payments for her husband's children that are not hers" - but it is the second wives that pay the price in this case. I don't know about all states, but in some the second wife's income is considered in awarding child support for the ex-wife's children, but the second wife's children (expenses to raise them) are not. This results in the second wife having to subsidize the first wife's childrearing expense to the detriment of her own children.

I don't agree that the man in the OP should have to pay child support for a child that isn't his, but before you start any more of your misogynistic rants, perhaps you should educate yourself to the fact that the antiquated divorce and child support system actually hurts BOTH men and women at alarming rates.

ETA, from the comments Section of one of the articles:

Given how welfare works in most state, I would guess that it was neither a judge nor a mother who filed for child support...it was the state of Iowa. If the mother files for welfare benefits for herself and the child, then the state will automatically seek payments from the "father." In this case, because of the law, the government employee won't care if they are married or not, they must simply follow the law.
 
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Interesting twist in the comments: NO idea if it's true but it would explain a lot...
Just like you to blame the man every single time even when it is clear that he is the victim of a deeply sexist system that perpetuates female privilege.
He should be suing her for child support for his children on the grounds of the 14th amendment.


YOU immediately blamed the woman, and all women in general. For fuck's sake Derec, have you no self-awareness at all?

You can, of course, put your money where your mouth is, and donate to the man's GoFundMe account. He is trying to raise the money for an attorney to fight this. You should help him.
 
The op linked article takes the man's word on everything. There isn't even a critical analysis of things based on his statements. For example, no one asked him why he chose to remain married to someone for 17 years who he doesn't see while having a girlfriend. When he files taxes does he do it as a single person or married couple? Who owns the house? This whole thing is suspicious and real journalism would have more details and more people questioned.
 
A more general absurdity of the law is that an adult cannot get divorced anytime they want, whether the other party agrees to be a part of the process or not.

It should something like sending notification to their most recent address and employer of record, and if they don't respond in 6 months, the lose any say in the process.
 
He should be able to sue the wife for the cost of the lawyer.

These laws are perfect example why feminist mantra of "male privilege" is nonsense. No woman has ever been held liable for child support payments for her husband's children that are not hers.

I doubt the wife is at fault here. I think it's much more likely she applied for welfare and the welfare department came after him.

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The law doesn't make an exception for married couples who are estranged, nor should it. So I can understand why the child support would fall to the husband by default. What's unfair that it costs the person attorney's fees to have it corrected. That should be a matter of notification, providing some documentation that the couple has been separated, and volunteering to paternity test. Let the wife pay the legal fees if she wants to challenge it.

The law should pay no attention to marriage. DNA is the answer. Marriage is a relic of the old days when paternity couldn't be proven.

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Interesting twist in the comments: NO idea if it's true but it would explain a lot...

NOT ONE PENNY to this JERK!! He made himself unavailable to be served divorce papers for 16 years! He knew damn well she could not re-marry till he agreed to a divorce!! This was probably her only avenue to getting him to “release” her & marry the real father!!! SHE’s not ‘bitter–she’s forcing him to show up for the divorce or go to jail!!

Anything to blame the guy.

You can serve by publication if you can't serve in person. Thus this argument is false.
 
You can serve by publication if you can't serve in person. Thus this argument is false.

Are you sure about that? While I am sure a highly paid lawyer could make that happen, the law seems to imply you can only serve via publication if your spouse is missing with no legal records of their current whereabouts, and you can prove to the completely subjective satisfaction of a judge that you made ever effort to find them. IOW, if you know where they live or work but simply cannot prove that you had the papers handed directly to them, then you are SOL, and must refile every 60 days while you attempt to hunt them down.
 
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