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From Heterdox Academy: http://heterodoxacademy.org/2016/05/12/the-amazing-1969-prophecy/

The birth of identify politics and its predicted illiberal effects in 1969.

The immediate damage to the standards of Yale Law School [implementing a race quota] needs no elaboration. But beyond this, it seems to me the admission policy adopted by the Law School faculty will serve to perpetuate the very ideas and prejudices it is designed to combat. If in a given class the great majority of the black students are at the bottom of the class, this factor is bound to instill, unconsciously at least, some sense of intellectual superiority among the white students and some sense of intellectual inferiority among the black students. Such a pairing in the same school of the brightest white students in the country with black students of mediocre academic qualifications is social experiment with loaded dice and a stacked deck. The faculty can talk around the clock about disadvantaged background, and it can excuse inferior performance because of poverty, environment, inadequate cultural tradition, lack of educational opportunity, etc. The fact remains that black and white students will be exposed to each other under circumstances in which demonstrated intellectual superiority rests with the whites.

No one can be expected to accept an inferior status willingly. The black students, unable to compete on even terms in the study of law, inevitably will seek other means to achieve recognition and self-expression. This is likely to take two forms. First, agitation to change the environment from one in which they are unable to compete to one in which they can. Demands will be made for elimination of competition, reduction in standards of performance, adoption of courses of study which do not require intensive legal analysis, and recognition for academic credit of sociological activities which have only an indirect relationship to legal training. Second, it seems probable that this group will seek personal satisfaction and public recognition by aggressive conduct, which, although ostensibly directed at external injustices and problems, will in fact be primarily motivated by the psychological needs of the members of the group to overcome feelings of inferiority caused by lack of success in their studies. Since the common denominator of the group of students with lower qualifications is one of race this aggressive expression will undoubtedly take the form of racial demands–the employment of faculty on the basis of race, a marking system based on race, the establishment of a black curriculum and a black law journal, an increase in black financial aid, and a rule against expulsion of black students who fail to satisfy minimum academic standards.

Just so eerily prescient.
 
Do they as a whole not have enough good brain genes? If so this will never be fixed until we breed together and spread out the mental wealth.

The bold is a classy way of saying they will chimp out.
 
From Heterdox Academy: http://heterodoxacademy.org/2016/05/12/the-amazing-1969-prophecy/

The birth of identify politics and its predicted illiberal effects in 1969.

The immediate damage to the standards of Yale Law School [implementing a race quota] needs no elaboration. But beyond this, it seems to me the admission policy adopted by the Law School faculty will serve to perpetuate the very ideas and prejudices it is designed to combat. If in a given class the great majority of the black students are at the bottom of the class, this factor is bound to instill, unconsciously at least, some sense of intellectual superiority among the white students and some sense of intellectual inferiority among the black students. Such a pairing in the same school of the brightest white students in the country with black students of mediocre academic qualifications is social experiment with loaded dice and a stacked deck. The faculty can talk around the clock about disadvantaged background, and it can excuse inferior performance because of poverty, environment, inadequate cultural tradition, lack of educational opportunity, etc. The fact remains that black and white students will be exposed to each other under circumstances in which demonstrated intellectual superiority rests with the whites.

No one can be expected to accept an inferior status willingly. The black students, unable to compete on even terms in the study of law, inevitably will seek other means to achieve recognition and self-expression. This is likely to take two forms. First, agitation to change the environment from one in which they are unable to compete to one in which they can. Demands will be made for elimination of competition, reduction in standards of performance, adoption of courses of study which do not require intensive legal analysis, and recognition for academic credit of sociological activities which have only an indirect relationship to legal training. Second, it seems probable that this group will seek personal satisfaction and public recognition by aggressive conduct, which, although ostensibly directed at external injustices and problems, will in fact be primarily motivated by the psychological needs of the members of the group to overcome feelings of inferiority caused by lack of success in their studies. Since the common denominator of the group of students with lower qualifications is one of race this aggressive expression will undoubtedly take the form of racial demands–the employment of faculty on the basis of race, a marking system based on race, the establishment of a black curriculum and a black law journal, an increase in black financial aid, and a rule against expulsion of black students who fail to satisfy minimum academic standards.

Just so eerily prescient.

Please document and explain how the above was prescient. Just seems like a racist screed to me.
 
From Heterdox Academy: http://heterodoxacademy.org/2016/05/12/the-amazing-1969-prophecy/

The birth of identify politics and its predicted illiberal effects in 1969.



Just so eerily prescient.

Please document and explain how the above was prescient. Just seems like a racist screed to me.

So you're unaware of the university protests of the past couple years?

http://www.thedemands.org/

For example:

4. We demand that the University of Missouri creates and enforces comprehensive racial awareness and inclusion curriculum throughout all campus departments and units, mandatory for all students, faculty, staff and administration. This curriculum must be vetted, maintained, and overseen by a board comprised of students, staff and faculty of color.

5. We demand that by the academic year 2017-18, the University of Missouri increases the percentage of black faculty and staff members campus-wide by 10 percent.

6. We demand that the University of Missouri composes a strategic 10-year plan on May, 1 2016 that will increase retention rates for marginalized students, sustain diversity curriculum and training, and promote a more safe and inclusive campus.

7. We demand that the University of Missouri increases funding and resources for the University of Missouri Counseling Center for the purpose of hiring additional mental health professionals, particularly those of color, boosting mental health outreach and programming across campus, increasing campus-wide awareness and visibility of the counseling center, and reducing lengthy wait times for prospective clients.

8. We demand that the University of Missouri increases funding, resources and personnel for the social justice centers on campus for the purpose of hiring additional professionals, particularly those of color, boosting outreach and programming across campus and increasing campus-wide awareness and visibility.

1. WE DEMAND at the minimum, Black students and Black faculty to be reflected by the national percentage of Black folk in the country.

2. WE DEMAND free tuition for Black and indigenous students

1. We demand support and funding for a Black Student Government that will allow students to create and provide resources, tutoring services, funding and academic necessities for our African American students. This will serve as the ultimate support for our black clubs and organizations.

2. We demand support and funding for an Afro Room. We would like to provide a safe space for African American students that would be operated and ran by the Black Student Government.

3. We demand an increase in the funding for CSUEB’s Ethnic Studies Department in order for the department to offer year-round courses to students such as “Hip Hop Nation” taught by Shaida Akbarian.

4. We demand a vote in determining the professors that are tenured on CSUEB’s campus.

5. WE demand an increase of African American counselors in AACE (Academic Advising and Career Education).

6. We demand an increase of African American counselors, doctors, and administrators in the Student Health and Counseling Center.

7. WE demand a mandatory cultural awareness/racial sensitivity training tae place for all incoming employees, staff, faculty and the University Police Department at CSUEB.

8. We demand a minimum o fat least three African American employees be staffed on CSUEB’s Administrative Team.

9. We demand an increase in amount of African American Head Coaches, and staff members in the athletics department.
 
Please document and explain how the above was prescient. Just seems like a racist screed to me.

So you're unaware of the university protests of the past couple years?

http://www.thedemands.org/

For example:

4. We demand that the University of Missouri creates and enforces comprehensive racial awareness and inclusion curriculum throughout all campus departments and units, mandatory for all students, faculty, staff and administration. This curriculum must be vetted, maintained, and overseen by a board comprised of students, staff and faculty of color.

5. We demand that by the academic year 2017-18, the University of Missouri increases the percentage of black faculty and staff members campus-wide by 10 percent.

6. We demand that the University of Missouri composes a strategic 10-year plan on May, 1 2016 that will increase retention rates for marginalized students, sustain diversity curriculum and training, and promote a more safe and inclusive campus.

7. We demand that the University of Missouri increases funding and resources for the University of Missouri Counseling Center for the purpose of hiring additional mental health professionals, particularly those of color, boosting mental health outreach and programming across campus, increasing campus-wide awareness and visibility of the counseling center, and reducing lengthy wait times for prospective clients.

8. We demand that the University of Missouri increases funding, resources and personnel for the social justice centers on campus for the purpose of hiring additional professionals, particularly those of color, boosting outreach and programming across campus and increasing campus-wide awareness and visibility.
Also Ben Carson only became a good doctor because his patients had to agree to not die on the surgery table. And Obama was allowed to become President under the modified Electoral College rules where black candidates only need 200 EV's to win the Presidency.
 
You are better than that JH. This is about the bulk of people of a race or group, not individual examples.
 
You are better than that JH. This is about the bulk of people of a race or group, not individual examples.
I'm sorry, did you just complain that I'm not broadbrushing an entire race because a small group of protestors at a Missouri university and instead looked at actual examples of African American achievement?
 
You are better than that JH. This is about the bulk of people of a race or group, not individual examples.
I'm sorry, did you just complain that I'm not broadbrushing an entire race because a small group of protestors at a Missouri university and instead looked at actual examples of African American achievement?

Well, that's not really the point. It's that race should have nothing to do with it. But when you make it about race, you'll inevitably get a disparity between groups, as one group is selected primarily on academics and the other primarily due to membership in a favored group. The prediction in 1969 was that the latter group - who likely gained admission due to favored-group membership and not academics - would compensate for the disparate academic gap by advocating certain things. And that prediction appears to have been accurate.
 
I'm sorry, did you just complain that I'm not broadbrushing an entire race because a small group of protestors at a Missouri university and instead looked at actual examples of African American achievement?
Well, that's not really the point. It's that race should have nothing to do with it. But when you make it about race, you'll inevitably get a disparity between groups, as one group is selected primarily on academics and the other primarily due to membership in a favored group. The prediction in 1969 was that the latter group - who likely gained admission due to favored-group membership and not academics - would compensate for the disparity by advocating certain things. And that prediction looked to be accurate.
Not academics? You mean not solely on academics, and only for a certain percentage of any said minority, right?

And this disparity never existed before? This disparity exists across races. There are really smart student, smart students, average students.
 
You know in 1969, the Supreme Court declared that segregation must end. Maybe you should read a bit about history.
 
You know in 1969, the Supreme Court declared that segregation must end. Maybe you should read a bit about history.

What does that have to do with the topic?

It has everything to do with the topic. If you want to look at disparity, look at the disparity of how blacks have been treated as inferior throughout U.S. history. Are you surprised that there's a ripple effect?
 
It really is just terrible that these uppity good for nothing minority students are demanding change that benefits them. How dare they voice their demands to change institutions that were not designed nor operated with their circumstances on needs in mind. Don't these people understand that if they think the institution should change to suit their needs, they should either SFTU or leave it for those students whose needs the institutions was designed to meet?
 
What does that have to do with the topic?

It has everything to do with the topic. If you want to look at disparity, look at the disparity of how blacks have been treated as inferior throughout U.S. history. Are you surprised that there's a ripple effect?

Don't know that you're following the topic. Here's a hypothetical. Let's say we want a baseball game. The first team will be selected primarily on RBIs. The second team primarily on having blond hair. Of course, the first team may have blond players, but the players were selected for their RBIs not hair color. Do you imagine the game would be competitive? The 1969 prediction is that the blond team, selected primarily for hair color not sports talent, would compensate for the disparity in skill by demanding, perhaps, that there be more blond referees and that the game become less competitive - at least for them (e.g., a blond player's foul will be considered a hit). After all, there is a history of discrimination against blonds. Think of all those blond jokes and stereotypes of mental incompetence. That creates an oppressive atmosphere which affects the blonds' ability to compete.

And this, essentially, has happened on college campuses where racial group membership determines the difficulty of admission. It's no secret that if you're East Asian you need to greatly outscore everyone else to get in. On the other hand, if you're black, well, the admission bar is set a bit lower. But when these two groups admitted on different criteria occupy the same academic space, the pre-existing disparity becomes conspicuous. Why can't group A compete on the level of group B? Instead of acknowledging that this is due to a well intended but flawed admission policy, the fault is cast elsewhere (insert you favorite "ism" here) and various race-based panaceas are demanded.
 
It has everything to do with the topic. If you want to look at disparity, look at the disparity of how blacks have been treated as inferior throughout U.S. history. Are you surprised that there's a ripple effect?

Don't know that you're following the topic. Here's a hypothetical. Let's say we want a baseball game. The first team will be selected primarily on RBIs. The second team primarily on having blond hair. Of course, the first team may have blond players, but the players were selected for their RBIs not hair color. Do you imagine the game would be competitive? The 1969 prediction is that the blond team, selected primarily for hair color not sports talent, would compensate for the disparity in skill by demanding, perhaps, that there be more blond referees and that the game become less competitive - at least for them (e.g., a blond player's foul will be considered a hit). After all, there is a history of discrimination against blonds. Think of all those blond jokes and stereotypes of mental incompetence. That creates an oppressive atmosphere which affects the blonds' ability to compete.

And this, essentially, has happened on college campuses where racial group membership determines the difficulty of admission. It's no secret that if you're East Asian you need to greatly outscore everyone else to get in. On the other hand, if you're black, well, the admission bar is set a bit lower. But when these two groups admitted on different criteria occupy the same academic space, the pre-existing disparity becomes conspicuous. Why can't group A compete on the level of group B? Instead of acknowledging that this is due to a well intended but flawed admission policy, the fault is cast elsewhere (insert you favorite "ism" here) and various race-based panaceas are demanded.

I don't think you understand the economic and social consequences of segregation. You appear to be glossing over it like it means nothing.
 
Don't know that you're following the topic. Here's a hypothetical. Let's say we want a baseball game. The first team will be selected primarily on RBIs. The second team primarily on having blond hair. Of course, the first team may have blond players, but the players were selected for their RBIs not hair color. Do you imagine the game would be competitive? The 1969 prediction is that the blond team, selected primarily for hair color not sports talent, would compensate for the disparity in skill by demanding, perhaps, that there be more blond referees and that the game become less competitive - at least for them (e.g., a blond player's foul will be considered a hit). After all, there is a history of discrimination against blonds.

Why don't we try a more apt analogy? Lets choose a team that has been told they can be anything and have been given the resources and professional coaching to play on one team. The other team has been told they are inferior and have to learn to play baseball on a tennis court with one father serving as a coach. Let's also threaten them with violence when they try to enter the ball field and mock their appearance and playing style while the game is being played.
 
Here's the greatest myth of all: the idea that standardized tests are an accurate and unbiased way of measuring intelligence and achievement.

As someone who scored the highest possible score on the analytical portion of the last standardized test I took, I'm telling you that is bupkis.
 
You know in 1969, the Supreme Court declared that segregation must end. Maybe you should read a bit about history.
This is not about segregation, it's about admissions based on race and not merit.
Reading comprehension is a fine thing for those who have it. ;)
 
Don't know that you're following the topic. Here's a hypothetical. Let's say we want a baseball game. The first team will be selected primarily on RBIs. The second team primarily on having blond hair. Of course, the first team may have blond players, but the players were selected for their RBIs not hair color. Do you imagine the game would be competitive? The 1969 prediction is that the blond team, selected primarily for hair color not sports talent, would compensate for the disparity in skill by demanding, perhaps, that there be more blond referees and that the game become less competitive - at least for them (e.g., a blond player's foul will be considered a hit). After all, there is a history of discrimination against blonds.

Why don't we try a more apt analogy? Lets choose a team that has been told they can be anything and have been given the resources and professional coaching to play on one team. The other team has been told they are inferior and have to learn to play baseball on a tennis court with one father serving as a coach. Let's also threaten them with violence when they try to enter the ball field and mock their appearance and playing style while the game is being played.

And too many of them have an overhyped chip on their shoulder and excessive focus on the negative from indoctrination to overcome as well.
 
Here's the greatest myth of all: the idea that standardized tests are an accurate and unbiased way of measuring intelligence and achievement.

As someone who scored the highest possible score on the analytical portion of the last standardized test I took, I'm telling you that is bupkis.

Do you think looking at somebody's race is a better way?
 
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