WTF? Trump "hopes" Russian Intelligence to find and release HRC's missing emails.

[Jayjay]

Do you know how WikiLeaks works? WikiLeaks doesn't hack anyone.

I stand corrected. Wikileaks released the material in order to attempt to disrupt the election. Fuck those guys.

So you think they should have waited until after the election, to release a set of emails pertaining to DNC behaviour during the primaries? Wouldn't it be too late?

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Wikileaks waited until after the primary was already over. They must like Clinton.

 

[arkirk]

Wikileaks waited until after the primary was already over. They must like Clinton.

What I feel indicates a total ethical breakdown here is the fact that the people who caught the DNC cheating are blamed more than the people caught cheating. Hillary immediately rehired DWS as her honorary campaign chair. Would that be to continue the good work she has already done (cheating). As much as I don't think Trump belongs in the White House, I feel that Clinton and her campaign don't either. You say..."But that's all there is!" Well all there is then is betrayal and that's a pretty serious matter. Try to find someone who has not and will not betray you and vote for them. I listened to Clinton's triangular speech with slight non committal references to many Green platform ideas. She would linger just long enough with the idea for it register in your head, then move on without any indication she would do anything about these things. On climate change...all she said was so tangential to the issue you had to be listening for it to even catch it..."I believe in science." That really tells us zero about her plans. I am taking bets on how long it takes her to start approving pipelines and the TPP. Just a few things to mull over huh?

 

[Colonel Sanders]

Wikileaks waited until after the primary was already over. They must like Clinton.

What I feel indicates a total ethical breakdown here is the fact that the people who caught the DNC cheating are blamed more than the people caught cheating. Hillary immediately rehired DWS as her honorary campaign chair. Would that be to continue the good work she has already done (cheating). As much as I don't think Trump belongs in the White House, I feel that Clinton and her campaign don't either. You say..."But that's all there is!" Well all there is then is betrayal and that's a pretty serious matter. Try to find someone who has not and will not betray you and vote for them. I listened to Clinton's triangular speech with slight non committal references to many Green platform ideas. She would linger just long enough with the idea for it register in your head, then move on without any indication she would do anything about these things. On climate change...all she said was so tangential to the issue you had to be listening for it to even catch it..."I believe in science." That really tells us zero about her plans. I am taking bets on how long it takes her to start approving pipelines and the TPP. Just a few things to mull over huh?

1. The DNC didn't cheat. They simply favored a longtime Democrat over one who'd leeched onto the party because otherwise he wouldn't have stood a chance to get as far as he did. It's not unethical to express support for a longtime member.

2. The real problem is that our security systems are getting hacked into and Trump is encouraging it.

3. And fuck the Green party. They already delivered Dubbya to the White House and now their idiocy could deliver Trump. The Greens should change their name to the Quadrennial Festering Herpes Lesion Party.

3(a). Go elect some people to city councils, get some mayors, some congress people, some senators. Get a governor or two. Once you lay the groundwork for a viable party that appeals to enough people, then run someone for POTUS. Otherwise it's a destructive shitbird party.

 

[Ford]

1. The DNC didn't cheat. They simply favored a longtime Democrat over one who'd leeched onto the party because otherwise he wouldn't have stood a chance to get as far as he did. It's not unethical to express support for a longtime member.

I'd go a bit further. The DNC - being the governing body of the Democratic Party - is tasked with doing what is best for the party. If they'd let the upstart outsider hijack their party for his own purposes, they'd be responsible for any damage that caused. On the other side of the aisle, the upstart outsider steamrolled over the RNC, and look what it has got them...a fractured outfit that can barely contain their disgust for their own nominee, and this week they effectively surrendered all their traditional selling points - patriotism, family values, judicious use of military power, sober competence, etc. - to the Democrats while being left with crass nationalism and xenophobia.

I don't think that would have happened if Bernie had been the nominee. Bernie is not the nominee because he simply lost...by a wide margin.

2. The real problem is that our security systems are getting hacked into and Trump is encouraging it.

Yep. And this is a problem which transcends party lines. RNC, DNC, it doesn't matter who is being hacked. Fact is there's a foreign power fucking with our democracy and whether you're a die hard Bernie supporter or a Trump follower you should be concerned about these attacks on our nation.

3. And fuck the Green party. They already delivered Dubbya to the White House and now their idiocy could deliver Trump. The Greens should change their name to the Quadrennial Festering Herpes Lesion Party.

I wouldn't go quite that far. The third party candidate that has the chance to muck things up this time is Gary "Feel The" Johnson.

 

[Harry Bosch]

What I feel indicates a total ethical breakdown here is the fact that the people who caught the DNC cheating are blamed more than the people caught cheating. Hillary immediately rehired DWS as her honorary campaign chair. Would that be to continue the good work she has already done (cheating). As much as I don't think Trump belongs in the White House, I feel that Clinton and her campaign don't either. You say..."But that's all there is!" Well all there is then is betrayal and that's a pretty serious matter. Try to find someone who has not and will not betray you and vote for them. I listened to Clinton's triangular speech with slight non committal references to many Green platform ideas. She would linger just long enough with the idea for it register in your head, then move on without any indication she would do anything about these things. On climate change...all she said was so tangential to the issue you had to be listening for it to even catch it..."I believe in science." That really tells us zero about her plans. I am taking bets on how long it takes her to start approving pipelines and the TPP. Just a few things to mull over huh?

1. The DNC didn't cheat. They simply favored a longtime Democrat over one who'd leeched onto the party because otherwise he wouldn't have stood a chance to get as far as he did. It's not unethical to express support for a longtime member.

2. The real problem is that our security systems are getting hacked into and Trump is encouraging it.

3. And fuck the Green party. They already delivered Dubbya to the White House and now their idiocy could deliver Trump. The Greens should change their name to the Quadrennial Festering Herpes Lesion Party.

3(a). Go elect some people to city councils, get some mayors, some congress people, some senators. Get a governor or two. Once you lay the groundwork for a viable party that appeals to enough people, then run someone for POTUS. Otherwise it's a destructive shitbird party.

Yea, the Green Party also got us Alito and Roberts on the supreme country. I wonder if their primary fund raisers continue to be conservatives?

 

[barbos]

Well, he was joking if you saw the press conference. But he did hold this presser during Clinton's coronation week and got control the news cycle with questions about Clinton's missing emails. Punk'd.

If you believe he was joking, I have a bridge for you to buy.

You must be trying to resell it

 

[arkirk]

What I feel indicates a total ethical breakdown here is the fact that the people who caught the DNC cheating are blamed more than the people caught cheating. Hillary immediately rehired DWS as her honorary campaign chair. Would that be to continue the good work she has already done (cheating). As much as I don't think Trump belongs in the White House, I feel that Clinton and her campaign don't either. You say..."But that's all there is!" Well all there is then is betrayal and that's a pretty serious matter. Try to find someone who has not and will not betray you and vote for them. I listened to Clinton's triangular speech with slight non committal references to many Green platform ideas. She would linger just long enough with the idea for it register in your head, then move on without any indication she would do anything about these things. On climate change...all she said was so tangential to the issue you had to be listening for it to even catch it..."I believe in science." That really tells us zero about her plans. I am taking bets on how long it takes her to start approving pipelines and the TPP. Just a few things to mull over huh?

1. The DNC didn't cheat. They simply favored a longtime Democrat over one who'd leeched onto the party because otherwise he wouldn't have stood a chance to get as far as he did. It's not unethical to express support for a longtime member.

2. The real problem is that our security systems are getting hacked into and Trump is encouraging it.

3. And fuck the Green party. They already delivered Dubbya to the White House and now their idiocy could deliver Trump. The Greens should change their name to the Quadrennial Festering Herpes Lesion Party.

3(a). Go elect some people to city councils, get some mayors, some congress people, some senators. Get a governor or two. Once you lay the groundwork for a viable party that appeals to enough people, then run someone for POTUS. Otherwise it's a destructive shitbird party.

You are mistaken Mr. Fried Chicken....on virtually every assertion in your post. You seem to think that our political parties ought to be governed by a dynastic oligarchy. Actually, the membership in a free society should be fluid and able grow or shrink depending on the use voters might put to them. Sanders has always caucused with the Democrats and the Democrats have made no effort to field primary candidates for his senate seat. He and all the other people in the party deserved a fair shake. They did everything in their power to destroy Bernie's candidacy. Bernie and Hillary expected votes for him could be transferred to her in the November election. That just goes to show you how fickle the people are when it comes to dynastic politics. There were unrealistic barriers to voting erected by the party . Had all the people who should have been ALLOWED TO VOTE voted, Bernie would have won for sure. The Democrats had too many what we would call closed primaries. That favoritism is wrong against Sanders and it is also wrong against Jill Stein.

You have "security" on the brain. You would shoot the messenger who told you we were being cheated. You have very little understanding of the function of journalism in our country. The emails didn't hang ME for cheating and didn't hand the hackers who uncovered it. I frankly don't care who hacked the DNC anywhere as much as I detest the self righteous cheating bastards yammering on about hacking. It well could have been a leak anyway.

You may want to fuck the Green party but it does not want to fuck anybody. Your mindset is locked in on aggressive attitudes toward social policy and anything to the left of David Duke you are not thinking clearly. Perhaps too much greasy fried chicken.

Your final comment indicates you are one who would erect barriers to ballot access on the basis of partisan considerations. A lot of that was done in the primaries and the Greens have struggled to get simple ballot access everywhere against the duopoly who wants to be alone on the ballot. You don't realize there are lesser political offices held by green. We need someone with pedagogic skills in the white house to deal with the climate change problem and not one of these Democratic or Republican party hacks. If I had my drothers the president would be Bill McKibben. But you see we are buried so deep in bullshit we often feel unable to move. Unfortunately we have to move because we are very capable of drowning ourselves in itl It can be fatal for billions on the planet.

 

[hurtinbuckaroo]

1. The DNC didn't cheat. They simply favored a longtime Democrat over one who'd leeched onto the party because otherwise he wouldn't have stood a chance to get as far as he did. It's not unethical to express support for a longtime member.

2. The real problem is that our security systems are getting hacked into and Trump is encouraging it.

3. And fuck the Green party. They already delivered Dubbya to the White House and now their idiocy could deliver Trump. The Greens should change their name to the Quadrennial Festering Herpes Lesion Party.

3(a). Go elect some people to city councils, get some mayors, some congress people, some senators. Get a governor or two. Once you lay the groundwork for a viable party that appeals to enough people, then run someone for POTUS. Otherwise it's a destructive shitbird party.

You are mistaken Mr. Fried Chicken....on virtually every assertion in your post. You seem to think that our political parties ought to be governed by a dynastic oligarchy. Actually, the membership in a free society should be fluid and able grow or shrink depending on the use voters might put to them. Sanders has always caucused with the Democrats and the Democrats have made no effort to field primary candidates for his senate seat. He and all the other people in the party deserved a fair shake. They did everything in their power to destroy Bernie's candidacy. Bernie and Hillary expected votes for him could be transferred to her in the November election. That just goes to show you how fickle the people are when it comes to dynastic politics. There were unrealistic barriers to voting erected by the party . Had all the people who should have been ALLOWED TO VOTE voted, Bernie would have won for sure. The Democrats had too many what we would call closed primaries. That favoritism is wrong against Sanders and it is also wrong against Jill Stein.

You have "security" on the brain. You would shoot the messenger who told you we were being cheated. You have very little understanding of the function of journalism in our country. The emails didn't hang ME for cheating and didn't hand the hackers who uncovered it. I frankly don't care who hacked the DNC anywhere as much as I detest the self righteous cheating bastards yammering on about hacking. It well could have been a leak anyway.

You may want to fuck the Green party but it does not want to fuck anybody. Your mindset is locked in on aggressive attitudes toward social policy and anything to the left of David Duke you are not thinking clearly. Perhaps too much greasy fried chicken.

Your final comment indicates you are one who would erect barriers to ballot access on the basis of partisan considerations. A lot of that was done in the primaries and the Greens have struggled to get simple ballot access everywhere against the duopoly who wants to be alone on the ballot. You don't realize there are lesser political offices held by green. We need someone with pedagogic skills in the white house to deal with the climate change problem and not one of these Democratic or Republican party hacks. If I had my drothers the president would be Bill McKibben. But you see we are buried so deep in bullshit we often feel unable to move. Unfortunately we have to move because we are very capable of drowning ourselves in itl It can be fatal for billions on the planet.

"Unrealistic barries", meaning what? Allowing only registered Democrats to select the nominee of the Democratic party?

The Greens are the equivalent of a blackjack player who hits on 19.

 

[Deepak]

Well color me surprised that everyone is concerned about information security.

 

[TV and credit cards]

Signal and Noise
Hack Fuels Suspicion Plots Against Bernie Sanders and Against America.
Well put me in the "conspiratorially minded" category. There's a time to wait for a body of overwhelming evidence and a time for a little healthy paranoia.
At a minimum, our democratic nominee should paint herself as a worthy adversary to Putin and her republican challenger as clearly disadvantaged. Bizarro. It will get the Trump supporter's heads spinning.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Signal and Noise
Hack Fuels Suspicion Plots Against Bernie Sanders and Against America.
Well put me in the "conspiratorially minded" category. There's a time to wait for a body of overwhelming evidence and a time for a little healthy paranoia.
At a minimum, our democratic nominee should paint herself as a worthy adversary to Putin and her republican challenger as clearly disadvantaged. Bizarro. It will get the Trump supporter's heads spinning.

Trump and Putin are master chess players. They are ahead of the democrats right now. They are trying to split the party. Every Bernster that goes for the Green party is a victory for them.

 

[Deepak]

Signal and Noise
Hack Fuels Suspicion Plots Against Bernie Sanders and Against America.
Well put me in the "conspiratorially minded" category. There's a time to wait for a body of overwhelming evidence and a time for a little healthy paranoia.
At a minimum, our democratic nominee should paint herself as a worthy adversary to Putin and her republican challenger as clearly disadvantaged. Bizarro. It will get the Trump supporter's heads spinning.

Trump and Putin are master chess players. They are ahead of the democrats right now. They are trying to split the party. Every Bernster that goes for the Green party is a victory for them.

I'll concede that Ivanov pulled the trigger - but surely Mr Chekhov bears some responsibility in introducing the pistol in the first place.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Trump and Putin are master chess players. They are ahead of the democrats right now. They are trying to split the party. Every Bernster that goes for the Green party is a victory for them.

I'll concede that Ivanov pulled the trigger - but surely Mr Chekhov bears some responsibility in introducing the pistol in the first place.

Clever metaphor. At the end of the day, I think that Trump's only hope is to split the democratic party.

 

[lpetrich]

OK, everybody here who dismissed Donald Trump's request as a joke, would you like similar jokes directed at you?

Like Hillary Clinton talking about how nice it would be to send movement conservatives to Alaskan prison camps?

 

[Keith&Co.]

OK, everybody here who dismissed Donald Trump's request as a joke, would you like similar jokes directed at you?

Like Hillary Clinton talking about how nice it would be to send movement conservatives to Alaskan prison camps?

Does anyone remember Reagan's live-mike joke about how he'd just launched the missiles at Russia?
I don't recall Russia finding it all that funny...

If you're want to be president and you're going to joke, don't do it while the microphone is powered ON. Push the little ON-JOKE switch to the JOKE position, that'd be great.

 

[barbos]

OK, everybody here who dismissed Donald Trump's request as a joke, would you like similar jokes directed at you?

Like Hillary Clinton talking about how nice it would be to send movement conservatives to Alaskan prison camps?

Does anyone remember Reagan's live-mike joke about how he'd just launched the missiles at Russia?
I don't recall Russia finding it all that funny...

If you're want to be president and you're going to joke, don't do it while the microphone is powered ON. Push the little ON-JOKE switch to the JOKE position, that'd be great.

Hillary is not russian, she is supposed to have sense oh humor. And Raygun did not leave the mic ON by mistake, it was a microphone check after all.

 

[zorq]

Does anyone remember Reagan's live-mike joke about how he'd just launched the missiles at Russia?
I don't recall Russia finding it all that funny...

If you're want to be president and you're going to joke, don't do it while the microphone is powered ON. Push the little ON-JOKE switch to the JOKE position, that'd be great.

Hillary is not russian, she is supposed to have sense oh humor. And Raygun did not leave the mic ON by mistake, it was a microphone check after all.

Again. Trump had no sarcastic inflection in his voice. He wasn't joking. There was no joke there for mrs. Clinton to detect. Trump is a fool but it takes a bigger fool to laugh when there is no joke.

 

[barbos]

Hillary is not russian, she is supposed to have sense oh humor. And Raygun did not leave the mic ON by mistake, it was a microphone check after all.

Again. Trump had no sarcastic inflection in his voice. He wasn't joking. There was no joke there for mrs. Clinton to detect. Trump is a fool but it takes a bigger fool to laugh when there is no joke.

Yes, he needs a lot of work on a delivery.

 

[GenesisNemesis]

There is absolutely no reason to believe anything Trump says, even if he says he's joking.