The Olympics

[mopc]

 

[Tom Sawyer]

I believe falsely reporting a crime is itself a crime in most countries, am I wrong?

Ya, but this is Brazil. Can't they just bribe the police or shoot a couple of poor people for them? I see no need to send white people to prison simply because they broke the law.

 

[hyzer]

WTF, we still have to safety PIN numbers to the track atheletes? Really, that is needed and that is the best way to number them?

 

[hurtinbuckaroo]

Why do you believe anything the media says?

Why would you not believe anything the media says? Where do you get your information about anything?

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Why do you believe anything the media says?

Why would you not believe anything the media says? Where do you get your information about anything?

I heard on the media that the media was untrustworthy.

 

[Thomas II]

I believe falsely reporting a crime is itself a crime in most countries, am I wrong?

Lying to a law enforcement officer can result in a criminal conviction. Depending on where you live and the extent of the deception, the criminal charge of filing a false police report can either be a misdemeanor or a felony.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Luckily locals have found a solution to counter the problem, as shown in one of the videos:

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If only the Olympic Committee had seen this sign, Chicago could have been hosting today

I can't tell if that is missing a comma or not, it works both ways, but with a comma it may be a bit better. Regardless, OT.

 

[thebeave]

http://www.tmz.com/2016/08/18/team-usa-swimmers-ryan-lochte-gas-station-security-guard/

Ryan Lochte and his teammates left out a huge part of their "robbery" story -- which is that they busted up a gas station bathroom, and THEN a security guard pulled a gun on them ... TMZ Sports has learned.

Sources connected to James Feigen tell us the real deal is ... the 4 swimmers -- including Jack Conger and Gunnar Bentz -- were on their way home from a party early Sunday morning when they stopped to take a leak at a gas station. We're told one or more of the guys was peeing outside the bathroom, and also kicked in the bathroom door.

Our sources say the swimmers were all wasted.

That's when the gas station's armed security guard rolled up, pulled his gun and demanded they pay for the damage. We're told he did take money from the swimmers, but only to cover the expenses, and then let them go.

I've been puzzled about what the motive would be for them to make up a robbery story. Now things are starting to make sense.

 

[thebeave]

Luckily locals have found a solution to counter the problem, as shown in one of the videos:

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If only the Olympic Committee had seen this sign, Chicago could have been hosting today

I can't tell if that is missing a comma or not, it works both ways, but with a comma it may be a bit better. Regardless, OT.

Yep. Reminds me of the "Slow Children at Play" sign on my street when I was a kid. I was never quite sure if the sign was a thinly veiled insult or a warning to drivers.

 

[Derec]

Yep. Reminds me of the "Slow Children at Play" sign on my street when I was a kid. I was never quite sure if the sign was a thinly veiled insult or a warning to drivers.

 

[ronburgundy]

http://www.tmz.com/2016/08/18/team-usa-swimmers-ryan-lochte-gas-station-security-guard/

Ryan Lochte and his teammates left out a huge part of their "robbery" story -- which is that they busted up a gas station bathroom, and THEN a security guard pulled a gun on them ... TMZ Sports has learned.

Sources connected to James Feigen tell us the real deal is ... the 4 swimmers -- including Jack Conger and Gunnar Bentz -- were on their way home from a party early Sunday morning when they stopped to take a leak at a gas station. We're told one or more of the guys was peeing outside the bathroom, and also kicked in the bathroom door.

Our sources say the swimmers were all wasted.

That's when the gas station's armed security guard rolled up, pulled his gun and demanded they pay for the damage. We're told he did take money from the swimmers, but only to cover the expenses, and then let them go.

I've been puzzled about what the motive would be for them to make up a robbery story. Now things are starting to make sense.

That video is rather damning.

Apparently TMZ is the only thing in the US resembling investigative reporting. NBC was too busy showing the same 3 highlights for the 100th time to look into it (or to show any non-US competitors besides Bolt).

 

[Derec]

I've been puzzled about what the motive would be for them to make up a robbery story. Now things are starting to make sense.

Isn't that still robbery though? If you owe me $100 and pull a gun to make you pay that's robbery in the US. Sure, Lochte et al should not have trashed the bathroom and refused to pay for damages, but the owner is in the wrong as well.

 

[blastula]

Apparently TMZ is the only thing in the US resembling investigative reporting. NBC was too busy showing the same 3 highlights for the 100th time to look into it (or to show any non-US competitors besides Bolt).

TMZ's advantage is they pay their sources.

 

[mopc]

I've been puzzled about what the motive would be for them to make up a robbery story. Now things are starting to make sense.

Isn't that still robbery though? If you owe me $100 and pull a gun to make you pay that's robbery in the US. Sure, Lochte et al should not have trashed the bathroom and refused to pay for damages, but the owner is in the wrong as well.

I don't know, if you destroy private property and begin a fight, the owner or private security personnel may demand payment on the spot, especially in a gas station where people come and go all the time. I truly do not know where Brazilian law stands on this.

What would it be like in the US? Can you enter commercial private property, break or damage goods/facilities and leave if you just give the owner your ID info? Or is the owner entitled to demand on-the-spot payment? Or detain the offender until police arrives?

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http://www.vox.com/2016/8/18/12532384/ryan-lochte-robbery-fake-rio-olympics-video

 

[KeepTalking]

Isn't that still robbery though? If you owe me $100 and pull a gun to make you pay that's robbery in the US. Sure, Lochte et al should not have trashed the bathroom and refused to pay for damages, but the owner is in the wrong as well.

I don't know, if you destroy private property and begin a fight, the owner or private security personnel may demand payment on the spot, especially in a gas station where people come and go all the time. I truly do not know where Brazilian law stands on this.

What would it be like in the US? Can you enter commercial private property, break or damage goods/facilities and leave if you just give the owner your ID info? Or is the owner entitled to demand on-the-spot payment? Or detain the offender until police arrives?

In the US, you can do either of those things in most jurisdictions, but what you can't do is what this security guard did: pull a gun, or otherwise threaten to physically harm the person, unless they pay you.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I've been puzzled about what the motive would be for them to make up a robbery story. Now things are starting to make sense.

Isn't that still robbery though? If you owe me $100 and pull a gun to make you pay that's robbery in the US. Sure, Lochte et al should not have trashed the bathroom and refused to pay for damages, but the owner is in the wrong as well.

Yeah, that's robbery by the standards of most of the world. Thus their report of being robbed was truthful--they just omitted the part of the story that explains why they were robbed.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Isn't that still robbery though? If you owe me $100 and pull a gun to make you pay that's robbery in the US. Sure, Lochte et al should not have trashed the bathroom and refused to pay for damages, but the owner is in the wrong as well.

I don't know, if you destroy private property and begin a fight, the owner or private security personnel may demand payment on the spot, especially in a gas station where people come and go all the time. I truly do not know where Brazilian law stands on this.

I do not know about Brazilian law but most countries do not permit such self-help remedies.

For a high profile case, look at OJ Simpson--upon finding is property being offered for sale by another he got some friends together and pulled an armed robbery to get it back. He got a long jail sentence for that. (While he certainly could have gone to court and gotten it returned he wouldn't have been able to keep it because of the still-unsatisfied judgment against him. Upon it's return the sheriff would have promptly seized it and put it up for sale.)

What would it be like in the US? Can you enter commercial private property, break or damage goods/facilities and leave if you just give the owner your ID info? Or is the owner entitled to demand on-the-spot payment? Or detain the offender until police arrives?

Detain for police is as far as you can go--and in general if they just walk off there's nothing you can do about it.

 

[ronburgundy]

Regardless of whether the security guard was guilty of theft, I'm guessing that something they said or didn't say to the police investigators would qualify as a false or intentionally misleading police report, so there's that crime on top of property damage.

 

[Thomas II]

http://www.tmz.com/2016/08/18/team-usa-swimmers-ryan-lochte-gas-station-security-guard/

Ryan Lochte and his teammates left out a huge part of their "robbery" story -- which is that they busted up a gas station bathroom, and THEN a security guard pulled a gun on them ... TMZ Sports has learned.

Sources connected to James Feigen tell us the real deal is ... the 4 swimmers -- including Jack Conger and Gunnar Bentz -- were on their way home from a party early Sunday morning when they stopped to take a leak at a gas station. We're told one or more of the guys was peeing outside the bathroom, and also kicked in the bathroom door.

Our sources say the swimmers were all wasted.

That's when the gas station's armed security guard rolled up, pulled his gun and demanded they pay for the damage. We're told he did take money from the swimmers, but only to cover the expenses, and then let them go.

I've been puzzled about what the motive would be for them to make up a robbery story. Now things are starting to make sense.

Me too. I knew there was a motive, and also that they had done something wrong, but I couldn't figure what... So now we know...

Oh the douchebaggery!

 

[blastula]

I had "didn't want to brag about giving money to local animal rescue shelter" in the pool.