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They reelected Nancy Pelosi as minority leader again. Is reelecting a 76 year old who is part of the old guard of the Democratic Party which lost this election a good way to renew it? Furthermore, Pelosi is from lefty SF. Dems have that demographics pretty sown up. They need to be fighting for those voters they lost in recent years. That's where Tim Ryan from Ohio would have been an interesting choice, beside the fact that he was the only one who dared to challenge ossified Dem House leadership. The top three House Democrats are all over 70 years old. And that in a year where primary goers had a choice between a 74 and a 69 year old. Is the Democratic Party in danger of becoming a gerontocracy?

P.S.: Had the Dems dared break new ground, we would have had a situation of Ryan vs. Ryan. A nice bonus.
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P.P.S.: What's going to be the next monumental mistake? DNC electing Keith Ellison as chairman?
 
Maybe dems realized that Americans have had enough with young, inexperienced wet-behind-the-ears politicians like Bernie Sanders or Hilary Clinton.
 
Maybe nobody wanted the job. Kind of the same reason that the Repubs had to guarantee to Ryan he wouldn't have to spend lots of time supporting R-election campaigns. It's a lot of work and rather hazardous work at that.
 
Treedbear said:
Maybe nobody wanted the job. Kind of the same reason that the Repubs had to guarantee to Ryan he wouldn't have to spend lots of time supporting R-election campaigns. It's a lot of work and rather hazardous work at that.
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I think that there is something to this. Who would want it. The dems are completely dead. No power.
 
Derec said:
P.P.S.: What's going to be the next monumental mistake? DNC electing Keith Ellison as chairman?
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It is a mistake to re-elect a woman to a job no one wants and literally is unimportant for the next 2 years. And it is a mistake to elect a black man to an important job. Gee, I wonder what drives Derec to these conclusions.
 
laughing dog said:
Derec said:
P.P.S.: What's going to be the next monumental mistake? DNC electing Keith Ellison as chairman?
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It is a mistake to re-elect a woman to a job no one wants and literally is unimportant for the next 2 years. And it is a mistake to elect a black man to an important job. Gee, I wonder what drives Derec to these conclusions.
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Well, Tim Ryan wanted the job. And Ellison is a bad choice for the Dems. If the Dems want to return to electoral relevance, they've got to bring back Howard Dean.
 
Derec said:
P.P.S.: What's going to be the next monumental mistake? DNC electing Keith Ellison as chairman?
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What's your problem with Ellison? I guess 53 must be too old for you.
 
I think that Pelosi is an inspired choice for House Leader. Given the dismal failure that the House Democrats have been over the past several electoral cycles, culminating in a loss to Donald Frigging Trump, it only makes sense to keep the same leadership of the Party in place, since making changes to this leadership would be a tacit admission that their long history of failure is partially their own fault as opposed to being the fault of someone who's not them. That sort of thing leads to introspection and adjustment of strategy based on the facts, which is not the sort of thing which one does in Trump's America.
 
Trausti said:
... If the Dems want to return to electoral relevance, they've got to bring back Howard Dean.
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On "With All Due Respect" last night Dean was interviewed by both Mark Halperin and John Heilemann and pressed specifically about some comments he made recently calling Steve Bannon a Nazi. Dean emphatically refused to back down on anything he'd said about Breitbart or Bannon. He may be right but I don't think the Democratic party needs that. At least not until the swastika's appear. Actually it's kind of asking for that to happen. The country is too close to the edge already.
 
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I'm surprised that any Republican would criticize the choice. I would think that they would be cheering and encouraging the Democrats to, "Stay the Course".
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*Ahem*

http://talkfreethought.org/showthre...eat-Horse-Race&p=357479&viewfull=1#post357479
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Republicans should also probably applaud Democrats "doubling-down" by Democrats supporting recounts and continuing to call anyone who didn't vote their way racists, sexists, etc.
 
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skepticalbip said:
dismal said:
skepticalbip said:
I'm surprised that any Republican would criticize the choice. I would think that they would be cheering and encouraging the Democrats to, "Stay the Course".
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*Ahem*

http://talkfreethought.org/showthre...eat-Horse-Race&p=357479&viewfull=1#post357479
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Republicans should also probably applaud Democrats "doubling-down" by Democrats supporting recounts and continuing to call anyone who didn't vote their way racists, sexists, etc.
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Only in private. Whenever Democrats can hear them, the Republicans' best strategy is to carefully explain to Democrats the whole unvarnished truth about what they're doing wrong that's making them lose their appeal to the basket of deplorables.

There are quite a few Democrats who get it, and are starting to put the word out; the possibility that they may persuade the rest of the Democrats to mend their ways is a serious threat to Republican hopes for future election victories. The Republicans can't silence the Democrats who are wising up. So their best shot to suppress the message is to make sure Democrats hear it from Republicans first. That way the average Democrat will associate the message with Republicans. The well will be poisoned. When one Democrat tells another why they keep losing, the second Democrat will assume the first is a closet Republican and be more likely to go with his natural instinct to double-down.
 
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