Trump just fired the acting Attorney General

[Warpoet]

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/30/politics/donald-trump-immigration-order-department-of-justice/index.html

President Donald Trump fired acting Attorney General Sally Yates Monday night for "refusing to enforce a legal order designed to protect the citizens of the United States," the White House said.

"(Yates) has betrayed the Department of Justice," the White House statement said.

It just gets worse and worse every fucking day.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

BBC reports acting US AG sacked by Trump

Yates was a placeholder who Trump asked to stay on until the KKK could get into the AG seat.

He fired her for telling Justice staff to ignore the illegal order by Trump.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Beat me by a minute. Well this isn't too surprising. Of course, we now know what happens to people that disagree with Fuhrer Bannon.


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[Ford]

I have a question about spelling...

Is Trump's reaction to Yates' defiance spelled "furor" or "fuhrer?"

 

[Nice Squirrel]

I applaud her for standing up for what is right. Then again we need people on the inside. She didn't really have to defend the government, just go through some motions.

 

[Harry Bosch]

I applaud her for standing up for what is right. Then again we need people on the inside. She didn't really have to defend the government, just go through some motions.

Yea, she's a hero.

 

[Toni]

I applaud her for standing up for what is right. Then again we need people on the inside. She didn't really have to defend the government, just go through some motions.

Yes. On the other hand, if enough people are fired or resign or 'resign,' it will alarm more and more reasonable people and perhaps bring things to a head.

I'm honestly not sure what an end game would be. Pence is despicable and anti civil liberties but probably would dispense with Banon pdq. I have a hard time seeing it go past Pence.

 

[Toni]

I have a question about spelling...

Is Trump's reaction to Yates' defiance spelled "furor" or "fuhrer?"

Yes.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Duh!

 

[TSwizzle]

There's nothing controversial about this. It's what happens when you don't do your job. She should have resigned if she felt that strongly about it.

 

[Warpoet]

There's nothing controversial about this. It's what happens when you don't do your job. She should have resigned if she felt that strongly about it.

She did do her job. It's to uphold the law, not to blindly follow illegal orders from power-hungry dickheads who have no regard for it whatsoever.

 

[zorq]

There's nothing controversial about this. It's what happens when you don't do your job. She should have resigned if she felt that strongly about it.

The AG's job is to uphold and defend the constituition, not twist it to her elected, superior's whims.

Besides, why should she necessarily predict that Trump would double down after recieving her refusal letter? Do you resign every time your boss tells you to do something you think is a bad idea? Or do you tell your boss it is a bad idea and hope they see reason?

 

[repoman]

This is kind of out there, but can Trump or someone else fire a non-appointed civil servant for following a judicial countermand of his order?

 

[SLD]

This is kind of out there, but can Trump or someone else fire a non-appointed civil servant for following a judicial countermand of his order?

Technically no. But. Let's face it there's a thousand ways to do it and make it way too difficult to fight.

SLD

 

[barbos]

I wonder how long Trump can continue this.

 

[TSwizzle]

I wonder how long Trump can continue this.

Eight years tops.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I wonder how long Trump can continue this.

Eight years tops.

Well, based on precedence (Nixon), maybe six more months. Hundreds of state diplomats are signing off on a dissent cable, an unprecedented act. Trump just booted someone with legal experience because he didn't like the truth.

 

[Warpoet]

Well, based on precedence (Nixon), maybe six more months. Hundreds of state diplomats are signing off on a dissent cable, an unprecedented act. Trump just booted someone with legal experience because he didn't like the truth.

I've become desensitized to the word "unprecedented," though. It's been used so much to describe this election and this disastrous presidency that it's lost all effect. There's really no precedent to turn to in Trump's case, because he's done basically everything that should disqualify someone from being president and people still fucking voted for him. Those people will realize, eventually, what a mistake they made, but there's no telling how long that could take. And before they do, I'm not sure what kind of pressure would need to be brought to bear to get him the fuck out.

 

[bilby]

 

[faded_Glory]

Well, based on precedence (Nixon), maybe six more months. Hundreds of state diplomats are signing off on a dissent cable, an unprecedented act. Trump just booted someone with legal experience because he didn't like the truth.

I've become desensitized to the word "unprecedented," though. It's been used so much to describe this election and this disastrous presidency that it's lost all effect. There's really no precedent to turn to in Trump's case, because he's done basically everything that should disqualify someone from being president and people still fucking voted for him. Those people will realize, eventually, what a mistake they made, but there's no telling how long that could take. And before they do, I'm not sure what kind of pressure would need to be brought to bear to get him the fuck out.

I'm not sure at all. There were still plenty of Germans who kept on supporting Hitler, even whilst their country was being razed to the ground, millions of their compatriots were dead and they were fighting a war they never could win.

Check this video from 1943: Wollt er den totalen Krieg?

Such people never learn.