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Trump just fired James Comey

SimpleDon said:
Artemus said:
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe that Comey publicly announced that the investigation was reopened. I believe that he informed Congress that there was new information available, as he had promised to do if the investigation reopened, and it was republican members of congress who actually broadcast it publicly. My take-away at the time was that it was the members of congress who behaved horribly unethically, not Comey.





I'll be glad to be corrected if I'm wrong. I don't have time to research it right now.
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I remember that Comey was faced with the very real prospect that the New York FBI office would leak the fact that many more emails had been found. Support for Trump was high in the FBI and there had been many leaks of information detrimental to Clinton, especially from the New York FBI office. This was more than a little unusual, leaks are normally rare from the FBI's investigations. It is a breakdown in their professionalism.





Therefore Comey was faced with only two choices, and both of them were bad. Sit on the information and to suffer when the almost inevitable leak from the New York field office exposed it and exposed Comey's failure to inform Congress as he had promised, or to inform Congress, with the certain knowledge that it would be leaked by Congress in a heartbeat. He decided to inform Congress as he had promised and to avoid the blow back and damage to the FBI's reputation that would accompany a leak of this size from the normally taciturn FBI.
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He didn't mention a potential FBI leak in his explanation. And if that was his concern, then he should have made the Russia investigation public too at the time.
 
Serious question, is there any way to read this quote from Trump yesterday and not come to the rational conclusion that he just admitted to firing Comey because of the Russia investigation on national TV?

Donald J. Trump said:
And, in fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself, I said: ‘You know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made up story, it’s an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should’ve won.
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RavenSky said:
[The orange fucktard in the White House] then turned the conversation to whether Mr. Comey would pledge his loyalty to him.
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Demanding a personal loyalty oath?

I keep thinking it can't get worse, and then it does
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I pledge an allegiance to Donald Trump
And to the awesomeness for which he stands
One man, a god
With Putin and emollients for all.
 
Just for kicks I checked out whether Comey took the usual Federal Oath of Office.

Director Comey: I, James B. Comey, [Attorney General Eric Holder: do solemnly swear] do solemnly swear [Holder: that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States] that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States [Holder: against all enemies, foreign and domestic] against all enemies, foreign and domestic…
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https://www.fbi.gov/audio-repository/news-podcasts-thisweek-comey-sworn-in-as-fbi-director.mp3/view

So, to emphasize the obvious, if Trump asked Comey for loyalty to him, Trump, he effectively was asking Comey to repudiate his oath of office.
 
The Constitution gives the House of Representatives the sole power to impeach an official, and it makes the Senate the sole court for impeachment trials.
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So there is no chance of an impeachment as long as Republicans hold the House. What are the other options to get this insane narcissist out of office?
 
RavenSky said:
The Constitution gives the House of Representatives the sole power to impeach an official, and it makes the Senate the sole court for impeachment trials.
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So there is no chance of an impeachment as long as Republicans hold the House. What are the other options to get this insane narcissist out of office?
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Well, according to Trump, there's always the 2nd Amendment...
 
With the GOP in Charge of the House and the Senate, a military coupe d'état is more likely than impeachment.

Or maybe, "We the People" storm the White House. :D

(now heads for daz bunker)

Later,
ElectEngr
 
Given how little support Trump has been getting from the House, if he keeps putting Republicans in these no-win situations, it's at least plausible that there might be enough defectors to get a majority for impeachment. 2/3 in the Senate probably won't happen, unless something ridiculous breaks.
 
Artemus said:
Trump just threatened Comey via Twitter:
Donald Trump said:
James Comey better hope that there are no "tapes" of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!
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Just move along, folks. No obstruction of justice to see here.

I seem to recall that it was secretly recorded conversations that brought Nixon down. Just sayin'.
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Actually that is called 'witness tampering'. So thats two charges against him now.
 
beero1000 said:
Given how little support Trump has been getting from the House, if he keeps putting Republicans in these no-win situations, it's at least plausible that there might be enough defectors to get a majority for impeachment. 2/3 in the Senate probably won't happen, unless something ridiculous breaks.
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How much more ridiculous does it need to get?
 
RavenSky said:
beero1000 said:
Given how little support Trump has been getting from the House, if he keeps putting Republicans in these no-win situations, it's at least plausible that there might be enough defectors to get a majority for impeachment. 2/3 in the Senate probably won't happen, unless something ridiculous breaks.
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How much more ridiculous does it need to get?
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Wait'll they start to see the polls in 2018. As they start to feel the icy cold fingers of voters on their stanndings, they'll start cutting their losses.
 
Keith&Co. said:
RavenSky said:
How much more ridiculous does it need to get?
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Wait'll they start to see the polls in 2018. As they start to feel the icy cold fingers of voters on their standings, they'll start cutting their losses.
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I know these things take time, and I know that Nixon's resignation took 2 years and a month following the Watergate break-in that started the investigation...

But I don't know if this country can take another year and three-quarters of Trump.
 
RavenSky said:
The Constitution gives the House of Representatives the sole power to impeach an official, and it makes the Senate the sole court for impeachment trials.
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So there is no chance of an impeachment as long as Republicans hold the House. What are the other options to get this insane narcissist out of office?
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I think that most Republicans would prefer to have Pence as President. He's at least as far right as Trump has been behaving, far more predictable and less likely to go off the nut and behave as a crazyman as Trump does. If they could boot Trump without too much messiness they would.
 
This might sound silly, but what about an arrest? If Trump has actually broken laws instead of just behaving in a way unfit for the office, couldn't he just be put on trial and convicted by a jury of people who aren't House Republicans?
 
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