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The End of the F***ing World - 9/10

British/Netflix black comedy-drama about a damaged teenage couple who run away and go on a road-trip crime spree. Very Bonnie and Clyde/Natural Born Killers. Great performances all around.

I've just added to my watch list. This had better be good as good as you say :p
 
The End of the F***ing World - 9/10

British/Netflix black comedy-drama about a damaged teenage couple who run away and go on a road-trip crime spree. Very Bonnie and Clyde/Natural Born Killers. Great performances all around.

I've just added to my watch list. This had better be good as good as you say :p

I'm not sure I can handle this kind of pressure... :help:
 
Alfred Hitchcock reruns.

His before and after dialogues and story telling is remarkable. The stories hold up well.
 
The wife and daughters are watching Lucifer, which means I am too, sort of....not sure how to rate it? I guess it is fun to watch...kind of chick flick TV?
 
Saw episode 2 of Black Lightning, and they're already showing that the older daughter is a lesbian [ent]hellip[/ent]


and she is already discovering her superpowers.



I'm pretty sure that's the first LGBT of color on the big or small screen, and Thunder made it to live action before Northstar or Hawk and Dove. Further, the fact that the hero is middle aged and coming out of retirement gives us an angle we haven't seen before in live action. And I'm pretty sure he's the only superhero school principal in comic books.

So far this is definitely my favorite of the CW comic book shows.
 
Saw episode 2 of Black Lightning, and they're already showing that the older daughter is a lesbian [ent]hellip[/ent]


and she is already discovering her superpowers.



I'm pretty sure that's the first LGBT of color on the big or small screen...

What about Renee Montoya in Gotham? There is also Mr. Terrific in Arrow.
 
Saw episode 2 of Black Lightning, and they're already showing that the older daughter is a lesbian [ent]hellip[/ent]


and she is already discovering her superpowers.



I'm pretty sure that's the first LGBT of color on the big or small screen, and Thunder made it to live action before Northstar or Hawk and Dove. Further, the fact that the hero is middle aged and coming out of retirement gives us an angle we haven't seen before in live action. And I'm pretty sure he's the only superhero school principal in comic books.

So far this is definitely my favorite of the CW comic book shows.

There is Kima Griggs from The Wire.
 
There is also both Captain Holt and Rosa Diaz on Brooklyn nine-nine, Layfayette from True Blood, and at least one character on Orange is the New Black.

In fact Captain Holt is somewhat groundbreaking, since he has no stereotypical "flare" or traits that signals he is gay (unlike most gay male characters), and neither does his husband who is a several episodes that deal with aspects of Holt's relationship.
 
I figured he was talking about the super-hero genre. Obviously there have been a bunch of gay black characters on various movies for the past 30 or so years.
 
In fact Captain Holt is somewhat groundbreaking, since he has no stereotypical "flare" or traits that signals he is gay (unlike most gay male characters), and neither does his husband who is a several episodes that deal with aspects of Holt's relationship.

Mr. Terrific on Arrow is much the same way. He doesn't really present any of the stereotypical gay male behaviors, and if you haven't seen any of the episodes where he interacts with, or talks about, his (now ex) husband, I don't think you would identify him as gay.
 
I figured he was talking about the super-hero genre. Obviously there have been a bunch of gay black characters on various movies for the past 30 or so years.

That was incorrect as well. In addition to the previously mentioned Mr. Terrific, and the Hispanic detective from Gotham, there is also Maggie on Supergirl, who is an out gay Hispanic woman. Of course, that is provided that you are including Hispanics in "people of color".
 
I figured he was talking about the super-hero genre. Obviously there have been a bunch of gay black characters on various movies for the past 30 or so years.

That was incorrect as well. In addition to the previously mentioned Mr. Terrific, and the Hispanic detective from Gotham, there is also Maggie on Supergirl, who is an out gay Hispanic woman. Of course, that is provided that you are including Hispanics in "people of color".

Also, the police captain on the Flash is gay as well. The extent of his gayness is that he mentions his husband on a couple of occasions and his being gay is otherwise completely irrelevant to his character.
 
Watched a couple of short documentaries.

The first was "Elton John: The Nation's Favourite Song" A countdown of 20 Elton John (Bernie Taupin) best loved songs. It was reasonably interesting and Elton was quite charming and humerus, he took to the stage dressed in a sort of Donald Duck outfit back in the 70s which was quite funny. A number of contemporary artists put forth their views on Elton's material, such as Ed Sheerhan, Chris Martin and others. Elton has a fantastic gift for songwriting although many of his hits were written by Bernie Taupin. I was surprised that Elton was quite big in USA prior to becoming a huge success in the UK.

The other was about Queen. Very interesting look at the band and their journey, filled with anecdotal tales from acquaintances of the band. Queen's performance at Live Aid is hailed as one of the best live performances ever and having watched it I tend to agree. They were immense. Scared the shit out of the other bands waiting to go on after them.
 
altered carbon: 6/10

i'm having a lot of trouble separating looking at this as a show and looking at this as an adaptation of one of my favorite books of all time, so i'm aware that there is a certain level of nit-picking that is coloring my perspective.
having said that...

as an adaptation: what it got right it got right pretty well, what it changed for the purposes of the different format (and in some cases i suspect copyright reasons) it did very well, but what it got wrong was really frustrating because it was only wrong because it was changed radically from the book, and for absolutely no god damn reason.

i get that sometimes you have to change a story to convert it from book to screen, but for example there are 2 side characters in the book and 1 footnote character who's only ever vaguely referenced... and in the show, they combined 1 side character with the footnote character into a new character but then invented a complete new character who they then combined with the 2nd side character, so in the end they didn't actually reduce the number of relationships in the show they just shuffled it all around and made it stupid.
the radical change to the whole Envoy thing totally demolished the entire point of that thread of the narrative, and disposing completely of the PTSD and other shit kovacs is going through ruined the main emotional thrust of the narrative.
everything expanded about for ortega was utter shit and in many cases completely contradicted the character in the book.
they totally changed several details of the ending of the book for no reason, only to change them back 5 minutes later - felt to me like it totally ruined the narrative heft and confused how everything tied together



as a show on its own merits:
nice production, lots of cool elements, the back half of the show really stumbled and after about episode 5 i wasn't really interested in anything going on, and the entire show came to a screeching halt for a back-story episode which revealed many things which then ended up not relating to anything going on in the main story or having any sort of thematic tie-in, so it was just a total waste of time.

the first half is a good watch, the second half is background noise.
i'll be really interested to see the reactions of people who haven't read the book.
 
Bitten - 3/10

A show about werewolves where the fact that most of the characters are werewolves is kind of a secondary plot line in a show about relationship dramas. If you’re going to tell me that a show is about werewolves and then spend most of an episode focusing on the problems of being a bridesmaid for your boyfriend’s sister, the fact that the character happens to be a werewolf in her non-wedding related time isn’t what viewers signed up to see.

There are elements of a decent sci-fi show interspersed along the way, but the producers of this werewolf show appear that have hired a bunch of writers who are completely uninterested in werewolves.
 
The End of the F***ing World - 9/10

British/Netflix black comedy-drama about a damaged teenage couple who run away and go on a road-trip crime spree. Very Bonnie and Clyde/Natural Born Killers. Great performances all around.

I've just added to my watch list. This had better be good as good as you say :p

I'm not sure I can handle this kind of pressure... :help:

I've watched a couple of episodes, I'm not digging as much as you did but I'll keep at it.


Waco, 7/10: This is the story of the infamous siege at David Koresh’s spiritual sect, The Branch Davidians in Waco, Texas in 1993. I've watched the first three episodes and it is an interesting depiction of the cult but I do wonder how accurate it can be. Episode three is where the first real engagement between Koresh and government occurs and it boggles my mind how the FBI/ATF went about dealing with Koresh and his followers. I know it is a "dramatization" but the reality is the FBI/ATF bungled this whole thing from start to bloody finish with massive loss of life.
 
altered carbon: 6/10

i'm having a lot of trouble separating looking at this as a show and looking at this as an adaptation of one of my favorite books of all time, so i'm aware that there is a certain level of nit-picking that is coloring my perspective.
having said that...

as an adaptation: what it got right it got right pretty well, what it changed for the purposes of the different format (and in some cases i suspect copyright reasons) it did very well, but what it got wrong was really frustrating because it was only wrong because it was changed radically from the book, and for absolutely no god damn reason.

i get that sometimes you have to change a story to convert it from book to screen, but for example there are 2 side characters in the book and 1 footnote character who's only ever vaguely referenced... and in the show, they combined 1 side character with the footnote character into a new character but then invented a complete new character who they then combined with the 2nd side character, so in the end they didn't actually reduce the number of relationships in the show they just shuffled it all around and made it stupid.
the radical change to the whole Envoy thing totally demolished the entire point of that thread of the narrative, and disposing completely of the PTSD and other shit kovacs is going through ruined the main emotional thrust of the narrative.
everything expanded about for ortega was utter shit and in many cases completely contradicted the character in the book.
they totally changed several details of the ending of the book for no reason, only to change them back 5 minutes later - felt to me like it totally ruined the narrative heft and confused how everything tied together



as a show on its own merits:
nice production, lots of cool elements, the back half of the show really stumbled and after about episode 5 i wasn't really interested in anything going on, and the entire show came to a screeching halt for a back-story episode which revealed many things which then ended up not relating to anything going on in the main story or having any sort of thematic tie-in, so it was just a total waste of time.

the first half is a good watch, the second half is background noise.
i'll be really interested to see the reactions of people who haven't read the book.

Just finished this myself, and agree with your assessment.

Altered Carbon
★★☆☆

Deducted two stars for weak storytelling. Everything else was largely well-executed.
 
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