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Of course they're doing it for a really dumb reason.

https://apnews.com/dc47bd30b2574a1fad0bb15e63d6e13c

LEXINGTON, S.C. (AP) — A Baptist church in South Carolina plans to remove a hand-carved statue of Jesus Christ because some congregants believe it’s too “Catholic” for their place of worship.

I have to wonder how many times the word "papist" was used in the debates that preceded the decision to remove the statue.
 
Jews then and I assume now consider any religious representations to be sacrilege. Same with Muslims. There are Christians who do not celebrate Christmas, a catholic invention. Some Evangelicals reject Catholicism altogether. In the 19th century Catholics were treated not much better than Jews.

Jefferson considered the papacy as a threat to democracy.

The RCC oozes idolatry.
 
Jews then and I assume now consider any religious representations to be sacrilege. Same with Muslims. There are Christians who do not celebrate Christmas, a catholic invention. Some Evangelicals reject Catholicism altogether. In the 19th century Catholics were treated not much better than Jews.

Jefferson considered the papacy as a threat to democracy.

The RCC oozes idolatry.
The main reason Evangelicals have tolerated Roman Catholics over the last 35 years is that both groups want abortion made illegal.
During the early 1920's, the KKK gained the support of many Southern Protestant pastors; in part, because of the klan's anti-Catholic stance.
 
Of course they're doing it for a really dumb reason.

https://apnews.com/dc47bd30b2574a1fad0bb15e63d6e13c

LEXINGTON, S.C. (AP) — A Baptist church in South Carolina plans to remove a hand-carved statue of Jesus Christ because some congregants believe it’s too “Catholic” for their place of worship.

I have to wonder how many times the word "papist" was used in the debates that preceded the decision to remove the statue.
Maybe if they modified the statue to look a bit more like this...jesus_trump_make_america_5x5.jpg
 
it’s too “Catholic” for their place of worship.
Yeah, just look at that statue and it SCREAMS confession of sins to a representative of the earthly hierarchy...
 
I attended a church marriage ceremony over the weekend.

The building was a former catholic church that has been remade into a non-denominational christian building. Removed are the typical side altars, the main altar, stations, and all statues. The side altars and statues have been replaced with huge screens for viewing. The hanging stations have been replaced with speakers. Gone are the pews and kneelers, replaced with chairs that hook together into rows, very comfortable. The crucifix that dominated the front of the building is gone and in its place is a huge empty wooden cross. It's also been given a new generic name.

The thing about religion is you can have it be whatever you want it to be.
 
Jews then and I assume now consider any religious representations to be sacrilege. Same with Muslims. There are Christians who do not celebrate Christmas, a catholic invention. Some Evangelicals reject Catholicism altogether. In the 19th century Catholics were treated not much better than Jews.

Jefferson considered the papacy as a threat to democracy.

The RCC oozes idolatry.
The main reason Evangelicals have tolerated Roman Catholics over the last 35 years is that both groups want abortion made illegal.
During the early 1920's, the KKK gained the support of many Southern Protestant pastors; in part, because of the klan's anti-Catholic stance.

During the 1920s, Oregon had the second largest KKK membership in the US (next to Indiana). There were few blacks in the state because they had been discouraged from the beginning of American settlement, the primary targets of the KKK in the Pacific Northwest were Catholicism (particularly Catholic schools) and the Asian immigrants. The governor of the state of Oregon in the early 1920s was a member of the KKK and actively persecuted Catholic schools throughout the state.

And, yes, Protestantism is far more sensitive to the issue of idolatry. Still, they wander about with miniature implements of torture strung about their necks. Curious.
 
And, yes, Protestantism is far more sensitive to the issue of idolatry. Still, they wander about with miniature implements of torture strung about their necks. Curious.
We,l, it's not idolatry if you don't worship the object instead of the deity.

Pagans don't directly worship the representations of the Lord and the Lady on their altars, those are just places for the Lord or Lady to hang out if they show up for the rites. Of course, it sounds a little different to say the Cross is a place for Jesus to hang when he's with you...
 
I do not think it is about abortion.

The reproachment between Evangelicals and Jews is based on Evangelical prophesy derived from scripture.

The second coming will be predicated on the return of Israel and rebuilding the temple.

I read somewhere biblical Jews did not allow late term abortion, but did allow abortion to a point. There are herbs that induce labor.

I went to a Catholic grammar school in the 50s-60s attached to a small cathedral. A large cross over the alter with a bloody JC with a crown of thorns. Multiple statues and paintings. In the RCC attention and prayer are directed at statues and images, idolatry.
 
I do not think it is about abortion.

The reproachment between Evangelicals and Jews is based on Evangelical prophesy derived from scripture.

The second coming will be predicated on the return of Israel and rebuilding the temple.

I read somewhere biblical Jews did not allow late term abortion, but did allow abortion to a point. There are herbs that induce labor.

I went to a Catholic grammar school in the 50s-60s attached to a small cathedral. A large cross over the alter with a bloody JC with a crown of thorns. Multiple statues and paintings. In the RCC attention and prayer are directed at statues and images, idolatry.
I'm not sure if this is an answer to my post? If it is, I didn't mean to be referring to Jewish doctrinal views on abortion.
I was just referring to Catholics and Evangelicals. That is, a big reason why Evangelicals starting taking a more tolerant view toward Catholics is because they see Catholics as an ally in their fight against abortion.
 
I do not think it is about abortion.

The reproachment between Evangelicals and Jews is based on Evangelical prophesy derived from scripture.

The second coming will be predicated on the return of Israel and rebuilding the temple.

I read somewhere biblical Jews did not allow late term abortion, but did allow abortion to a point. There are herbs that induce labor.

I went to a Catholic grammar school in the 50s-60s attached to a small cathedral. A large cross over the alter with a bloody JC with a crown of thorns. Multiple statues and paintings. In the RCC attention and prayer are directed at statues and images, idolatry.
I'm not sure if this is an answer to my post? If it is, I didn't mean to be referring to Jewish doctrinal views on abortion.
I was just referring to Catholics and Evangelicals. That is, a big reason why Evangelicals starting taking a more tolerant view toward Catholics is because they see Catholics as an ally in their fight against abortion.

And I gave my reasons for disagreeing.

Google The Reformation. Papist refers to the Catholic belief that the pope is the sole voice for god on Earth. The Reformation said anyone can read and interpret the bible and commune with god without a pries as an intermediary. In the day you risked your life for promoting the idea. It was forbidden to translate the bible into common languages. Without the Reformation there would be no Protestants and no Evangelicals. The Reformation is the source of Evangelical antipathy towards Catholics. Thy fear the pope as a threat to their religios independence. The Constitution forbids a govt religion, and forbids any religions from holding absolute religious power. There is historical reasons why it was in COTUS. It is why Evangelicals get alarmed at any hint of govt intrusion or limits.

In the JFK campaign Protestant Christians were worried that JFK as a Catholic would place allegiance to the pope instead of the Constitution when it came to religion and morality. He had to publically answer the question. Catholicism is presented as the one true Christian church. The authority is derived by the popes being in a line of succession to Peter whom was Bishop Of Rome in the theology.
 
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My stepfather was a supply teacher (aka 'substitute teacher') in the North of England back in the 1980s, going from school to school to stand in for sick or absent staff. He was banned from all of the RC schools in the district, after he reported to the Headmaster's office at one such establishment, and on seeing the massive crucifix with thorny crown and bloody wounds hanging behind the desk, nodded to it and said "Well, I see you got the bastard who stole your video recorder".

Some people have no sense of humour.
 
I do not think it is about abortion.

The reproachment between Evangelicals and Jews is based on Evangelical prophesy derived from scripture.

The second coming will be predicated on the return of Israel and rebuilding the temple.

I read somewhere biblical Jews did not allow late term abortion, but did allow abortion to a point. There are herbs that induce labor.

I went to a Catholic grammar school in the 50s-60s attached to a small cathedral. A large cross over the alter with a bloody JC with a crown of thorns. Multiple statues and paintings. In the RCC attention and prayer are directed at statues and images, idolatry.
I'm not sure if this is an answer to my post? If it is, I didn't mean to be referring to Jewish doctrinal views on abortion.
I was just referring to Catholics and Evangelicals. That is, a big reason why Evangelicals starting taking a more tolerant view toward Catholics is because they see Catholics as an ally in their fight against abortion.

And I gave my reasons for disagreeing.

Google The Reformation. Papist refers to the Catholic belief that the pope is the sole voice for god on Earth. The Reformation said anyone can read and interpret the bible and commune with god without a pries as an intermediary. In the day you risked your life for promoting the idea. It was forbidden to translate the bible into common languages. Without the Reformation there would be no Protestants and no Evangelicals. The Reformation is the source of Evangelical antipathy towards Catholics. Thy fear the pope as a threat to their religios independence. The Constitution forbids a govt religion, and forbids any religions from holding absolute religious power. There is historical reasons why it was in COTUS. It is why Evangelicals get alarmed at any hint of govt intrusion or limits.

In the JFK campaign Protestant Christians were worried that JFK as a Catholic would place allegiance to the pope instead of the Constitution when it came to religion and morality. He had to publically answer the question. Catholicism is presented as the one true Christian church. The authority is derived by the popes being in a line of succession to Peter whom was Bishop Of Rome in the theology.
I think there is some misunderstanding here. I don't know what, exactly, you disagreeing with in my statement.(?)
I know about the Reformation, and the I agree with your evaluation of it (above).
I'll try to rephrase the point I was trying to make:
Moderate mainline Protestant churches (e.g. Lutherans, Episcopalians/Anglicans) have softened their view towards Catholics considerably in the last 60 years, especially after Vatican II. e.g. I grew up in the Episcopal church, during the 1960's-70's. I don't ever remember hearing a disparaging remark about Roman Catholics, from the Episcopal church.
Contrast this with conservative Protestants, like the Southern Baptist church, who didn't seem to view Catholics as Christians at all (They still held the old line Protestant beliefs about Roman Catholics, thru much of the late twentieth century).
Around 1990, many conservative Protestants began to soften their views about Catholics, because both groups were fighting against things like abortion and (later) same-sex marriage. But apparently, some of these conservative denominations are still very suspicious of Catholics, i.e. They still hold onto the old Protestant views on Catholics, somewhat.
Here's a recent NPR article that touches upon what I am talking about: https://www.npr.org/2018/05/25/6134...cals-move-apart-in-their-political-priorities
 
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If you know the Reformation why did you ask what a papist is? It is not abortion that brought about a rapprochement between Evangelicals(and others) and Jews, it is a modern prophesy crafted by Evangelicals and others on the second coming predicated on the restoration of Israel and the rebuilding of the temple.

You can here in the radio and TV ministries'.
 
If you know the Reformation why did you ask what a papist is? It is not abortion that brought about a rapprochement between Evangelicals(and others) and Jews, it is a modern prophesy crafted by Evangelicals and others on the second coming predicated on the restoration of Israel and the rebuilding of the temple.

You can here in the radio and TV ministries'.
How strange...? Perhaps you have me confused with someone else?
e.g. I never asked what a papist is. I never said that the abortion issue brought the Jews and evangelicals together.
Do you disagree with the npr article I posted, that indicates that abortion was one of the main reasons evangelicals and Catholics started to work together?

Do evangelical prophesies about the end-times cast Roman Catholics in a good light?
 
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I had Catholic uncles on both my mother's and father's sides of my family- and most everyone else was Southern Baptist or Methodist.

I always got the feeling that there had been a lot of hard feelings over that, particularly on my mom's side. Her family was more fundamentalist. But by the time I was old enough to notice, those battles were over, and I never heard much of the 'Pope = Antichrist' viewpoint (which was indeed pretty common among Southern Baptists, in the first half of the twentieth century.)
 
I had Catholic uncles on both my mother's and father's sides of my family- and most everyone else was Southern Baptist or Methodist.

I always got the feeling that there had been a lot of hard feelings over that, particularly on my mom's side. Her family was more fundamentalist. But by the time I was old enough to notice, those battles were over, and I never heard much of the 'Pope = Antichrist' viewpoint (which was indeed pretty common among Southern Baptists, in the first half of the twentieth century.)

Back in the 60s my grandmother's nephew, Irish Catholic, married a Protestant. I did not understand why back then, I remember there were some hard familky feelings.
 
Jews then and I assume now consider any religious representations to be sacrilege. Same with Muslims. There are Christians who do not celebrate Christmas, a catholic invention. Some Evangelicals reject Catholicism altogether. In the 19th century Catholics were treated not much better than Jews.

Jefferson considered the papacy as a threat to democracy.

The RCC oozes idolatry.

I'm pretty sure the whole reason most Western cultures consider it impolite to talk about religion in public is because everyone is terrified that the Catholics and Protestants will start setting each other on fire again.
 
I do not think it is about abortion.

The reproachment between Evangelicals and Jews is based on Evangelical prophesy derived from scripture.

The second coming will be predicated on the return of Israel and rebuilding the temple.

I read somewhere biblical Jews did not allow late term abortion, but did allow abortion to a point. There are herbs that induce labor.

I went to a Catholic grammar school in the 50s-60s attached to a small cathedral. A large cross over the alter with a bloody JC with a crown of thorns. Multiple statues and paintings. In the RCC attention and prayer are directed at statues and images, idolatry.
I'm not sure if this is an answer to my post? If it is, I didn't mean to be referring to Jewish doctrinal views on abortion.
I was just referring to Catholics and Evangelicals. That is, a big reason why Evangelicals starting taking a more tolerant view toward Catholics is because they see Catholics as an ally in their fight against abortion.

And I gave my reasons for disagreeing.

Google The Reformation. Papist refers to the Catholic belief that the pope is the sole voice for god on Earth. The Reformation said anyone can read and interpret the bible and commune with god without a pries as an intermediary. In the day you risked your life for promoting the idea. It was forbidden to translate the bible into common languages. Without the Reformation there would be no Protestants and no Evangelicals. The Reformation is the source of Evangelical antipathy towards Catholics. Thy fear the pope as a threat to their religios independence. The Constitution forbids a govt religion, and forbids any religions from holding absolute religious power. There is historical reasons why it was in COTUS. It is why Evangelicals get alarmed at any hint of govt intrusion or limits.

In the JFK campaign Protestant Christians were worried that JFK as a Catholic would place allegiance to the pope instead of the Constitution when it came to religion and morality. He had to publically answer the question. Catholicism is presented as the one true Christian church. The authority is derived by the popes being in a line of succession to Peter whom was Bishop Of Rome in the theology.

You're an evangelical? I thought you were atheist.
 
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