My "obsession to prove rape"?????? Are you kidding me? How could you conclude from what I communicated that I am "obsessed with proving rape"? You have absolutely no opinion on my part regarding whether I think a rape occurred or did not occur. Keep your mind reading based inflammatory crap out of this discussion, Loren.
But you're taking the side of arguing that more rape is happening.
This is what I had stated :
Plenty of opportunities were given to Winston (FSU Seminoles quarterback and rising star within College football) last year to respond to an inquiry initiated by FSU regarding an allegation of rape brought against him by a female FSU student. Winston persistently refused to appear. Which of course left the FSU student community scratching their head as to why he would evade the opportunities to speak for himself and defend himself. The story was pretty much "swept under the carpet" until a few days ago when, due to the same community of students questioning why Winston could evade that inquiry process, FSU launched an official investigation. At this point, Winston will have to respond escorted by his lawyer.
which was "greeted" by your mind reading based inflammatory crap that I am obsessed with proving rape. You now pursue in the same path by attempting to justify and rationalize that inflammatory crap by claiming that the above comes down to my "taking the side that more rape is happening". I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that such gross misrepresentation of the content of my remarks was not intentional but the product of a lack of reading comprehension on your part.
If you wish to pursue to justify your initial mind reading based inflammatory crap, I will ask you to detail your reasoning while quoting which parts of my remarks reflect my " obsession to prove rape" and where I "take the side that more rape is happening". Needless to say that if you dismiss that challenge or fail to meet its terms, I will take it that now it is not a matter of reading comprehension on your part but as evidence of your resorting to flame other posters.
This sounds to me like the cops didn't believe her so she waited until there would be no repercussions if the university didn't, either.
Actually, charges were not pressed against Winston by the SA because of lack of evidence supporting her claim. Which is still the current position of the State Attorney for Leon County. FSU has no choice but proceed with Article 9 and that despite of no criminal charges having been filed against Winston. However, FSU could still conclude from their investigation that Winston violated the Code of Conduct established by FSU. FSU having heavily cracked down on drunk hook ups of any suspicious nature. Their cracking down had started with the expulsion of a large fraternity due to the repeated occurrence of passed out drunk female students during the parties held at the said fraternity. They saw it coming as the disastrous formula for unconscious females to be sexually exploited.
Mind you that such issue is far from being under control on and around the FSU campus.
The point is that she refused to talk to them after getting rebuffed by the police. That sounds like someone who knows their case is weak and doesn't want any consequences.
Now she's beyond the reach of the university, no harm in talking to them.
Once more, your opinions are not based on any evidence you have presented, but on you drawing conclusions based on your own assertions. Whereas what I mentioned above is a demonstrated reality that the State Attorney for Leon County concluded that no charges should be filed against Winston based on lack of evidence. I am not about to personally engage in reading the alleged victim's mind or Winston's mind and draw conclusions (as you did) based on such personal mind reading.
I have no opinion whatsoever as to whether a crime may or may not have happened. However, Winston's initial refusal to answer questions goes against the due process of facilitating the accused student's right to defend themselves. Derec's persistent complaint being that accused male students are not given such due process. In this specific case, Winston was given several opportunities but declined them. That is why I brought it up. In its initial inquiry, FSU asked Winston to attend interviews regarding his alleged involvement in a sexual encounter with the said female student. Which he declined to attend. A process giving a voice to the accused student was facilitated by FSU but with, at the time, an uncooperative accused male student.
Mind you that those interviews were scheduled BEFORE the conclusion of the criminal investigation and the SA decision to not press charges due to lack of evidence supporting the alleged victim's claim.
As to this (and again mind reading based) conclusion :
That sounds like someone who knows their case is weak and doesn't want any consequences.
Now she's beyond the reach of the university, no harm in talking to them.
What do you mean by "she's beyond the reach of the university, no harm talking to them"?
The Article 9 triggered investigation by FSU is separate from the decision by the SA to not press charges based on lack of evidence. Mind you that the SA decision to not press charges was not based on any conclusion on the SA's part that there was no violation of the FSU students Code of Conduct but that there was not enough evidence or there was a lack of evidence to prosecute Winston by pressing any criminal charges.