I heard that Jesus converted to atheism on his deathbed because he was angry with God for forsaking him.
Made for kind of an awkward conversation a few days later.
Made for kind of an awkward conversation a few days later.
I heard that Jesus converted to atheism on his deathbed because he was angry with God for forsaking him.
Made for kind of an awkward conversation a few days later.
Are you proposing that having a parent excludes someone from qualifying as a god?
Well, when humans create something amazing it's rarely a solo operation. Most creation takes teamwork -- Edison's greatest invention was not the lightbulb but the industrial research laboratory. If you're defining "god" as the creator of organic life, then that would appear to mean that if many beings cooperated in the creation process, they all simultaneously became gods when the first organic cell went live. How big a contribution does each cooperating being have to have made to get to become a god? Just the scientists? The engineers too? The technicians? The janitorial staff?
From my point of view, you are just the same. You worship YHWH for the same reason Phoenicians worshiped Baal, and Greeks worshiped Zeus's various brothers and sisters and children, and Hindus worship their enormous pantheon -- because somebody told you to. You surely know those other people who worshiped all types use the same method as you to decide which is the right object of worship, yet you somehow imagine that method works right for you even though it doesn't work right for them. Regardless of whether the object of your worship is unique or is one of many, you're letting somebody else decide what's right and wrong for you, abdicating your responsibility to make your own independent judgment. Worship is morally equivalent to handing your car keys to a driver you have no grounds for thinking isn't drunk.
But "Intelligent design" isn't an alternative theory; it's just begging the question. An intelligent being capable of creating life is itself a complex functional process -- it has goals, and understanding, and the ability to analyze causal processes and sort them out into those that will accomplish its goals and those that will not. "Intelligent Design" is a proposal that says "The reason reality contains complex functional processes is that reality started out containing a complex functional process, which is what caused complex functional processes to exist." That's circular. It relies on its claimed output already existing as an input. That is not an explanation at all.
Sure, I understand that -- compromising on one point doesn't mean you compromise on another. What of it? He allegedly created Adam and for some reason expected Adam to know to obey Him even though he didn't tell Adam obedience was required. Then the Jews worshiped a golden calf; then God in effect said "Fine, if you can't remember to do what you're supposed to by yourselves I'll write down the rules for you". And He blasted some rules onto a couple rocks and hadCharlton HestonMoses deliver them. That's a compromise. Your word, not mine. The Jews caused God to compromise on the matter of having a formal written law.
Many theists love to spread false rumors about deathbed conversions of well know atheists. One I recall not long after Chris Hitchens demise was about his converting to xtianity on his deathbed which was a complete fabrication of course.
How do people figure out what the real-deal god is? Does this god come with a HAZMAT sticker on it proclaiming "This is the Real-Deal God: May react violently to normal human behavior: Handle with extreme care". If it doesn't come with a sticker like this, how would one go about distinguishing the real-deal god from a universe potentially filled with intelligent beings which have the technology to create life and possibly even new universes? What makes your god worthy of worship but not other naturally occurring beings with powers that appear godlike to us?
I was pointing out that, since there are several gods existing at the same time, then these would make them lesser gods. The bible acknowledges lesser gods of worship. No probs with that.
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The bible says there are many gods that people worship.
Money (mammon) Power/War (mars) Sex/Lust (aphrodite)
Not necessarily ugly but certainly an apt metaphor for human ignorance.The bible says there are many gods that people worship.
Money (mammon) Power/War (mars) Sex/Lust (aphrodite)
I see. So you are saying that Jesus/Jehova is like that too - just a metaphor for something ugly in humans?
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Not necessarily ugly but certainly an apt metaphor for human ignorance.The bible says there are many gods that people worship.
Money (mammon) Power/War (mars) Sex/Lust (aphrodite)
I see. So you are saying that Jesus/Jehova is like that too - just a metaphor for something ugly in humans?
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Money (mammon) Power/War (mars) Sex/Lust (aphrodite) Ignorance (Jehova)
e.g. "I don't understand how humans began therefore goddidit".
The bible says there are many gods that people worship.
Money (mammon) Power/War (mars) Sex/Lust (aphrodite)
The bible says there are many gods that people worship.
Money (mammon) Power/War (mars) Sex/Lust (aphrodite)
I haven't read the Bible (except for Ecclesiastes which was fun) but the Money-God and the Sex-God sound wonderful. Does the Bible name them? And how do I start worshipping them?
So the Bible is lying when it says that there is only one god?
If so, how do we tell when the Bible is lying and when it's telling (or at least attempting to tell) the truth? What metric can we use to distinguish between the different kinds of Bible passages?
The bible says there are many gods that people worship.
Money (mammon) Power/War (mars) Sex/Lust (aphrodite)
That is only in the adult version of the Bible. Those Bibles are stored in the back room of the book store, the little dark room behind the curtain.The Bible says that Aphrodite is real? Must be towards the back somewhere because I haven't seen that one before.
That is in the adult version of the Bible. Those Bibles are stored the back room of the book store, the little dark room behind the curtain.The Bible says that Aphrodite is real? Must be towards the back somewhere because I haven't seen that one before.
Far more important is how modern Christainity celebrates Ishtar/Easter/Oestre/Ester.The Bible says that Aphrodite is real?