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Just like a woman, bringing a baby to a gun fight.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06...er-the-shooting-death-of-unborn-baby/11258240
What the fuck is it with Dollar Stores being in the news all of a sudden? This is the worst marketing campaign ever.
What the fuck is it with Dollar Stores being in the news all of a sudden? This is the worst marketing campaign ever.
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She attacked the other woman, and the other woman defending herself with a gun.
It is pretty common to charge people when other people are killed due to that person's actions. The only difference here is that the third person is in the womb the original attacker.
If Ebony Jamison can be charged with some form of homicide in the death of the fetus had she been found responsible, why can't Marshae Jones be charged now that the grand jury thinks she is the responsible party?
It is pretty common to charge people when other people are killed due to that person's actions. The only difference here is that the third person is in the womb the original attacker.
If Ebony Jamison can be charged with some form of homicide in the death of the fetus had she been found responsible, why can't Marshae Jones be charged now that the grand jury thinks she is the responsible party?
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Human shield.
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She also attacked her over a man. Apparently her baby daddy was "talking" (otherwise known as "fucking") with the other, non-pregnant, woman.
Women fighting with deadly weapons over some man, and here I sit, can't even get a date. Do I need to start hanging out at Dollar General or what?
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The pregnant woman didn't have a gun, for one thing. Why should she assume the other woman did? Oh, yeah: they're black so it's obvious.
Why isn't the father of the child charged? If one is going to assign blame, it is obviously his for not being faithful to the mother of his unborn child.
I don't see why this is an issue for you. You keep saying you aren't interested in dating anymore so it's not like anybody did anything to you or even did anything to reduce your chances of getting a date.
Only one woman seems to have had a deadly weapon and it wasn't the pregnant woman. But I do agree with you that no man is worth fighting over, especially if he's cheating on you and especially if there's a gun involved.
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Please don't give him any ideas.
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Doesn't mean she was not the aggressor.
Why do you think her assuming the woman she attacked had a gun is necessary for charges to be filed? Also, race has nothing to do with this case, so why bring it up?
Because not being faithful to your baby mama is not against the law. It is not even clear what their relationship was at the time.
I used to be interested. But when two women keep going for the same guy, purely mathematically it's not going to work out, so I had to give up.
True. The article is not clear, but I wonder how severely Marshae attacked Ebony for deadly force to be justified in self defense. Maybe sidewalk was involved ...
Not clear from the article that he was cheating on anybody. Perhaps they had broken up already and Marshae was upset about it.
Obviously there was a gun. It was almost certainly possessed by one of the combatants. Since the woman who was shot didn't have it that makes it very likely the other one was armed. Skin color doesn't enter into this.
That's not a crime and even if it was it doesn't justify an attack. There's nothing to charge him with.
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No, but you do need to start treating women like crap. You're most likely just too nice a guy Derec.
Just pretend you have a lot of money and treat them like crap if you want to get layed often.
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Any rational human understands the charges in this case are ridiculous. But once one sees it is Alabama, it is completely understandable.
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Yes, because prosecuting people for manslaughter when their actions cause a death is EXACTLY the same as burning people alive or stoning them because of not conforming to their version of Islam.
Sure Patooka, whatever you say.
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So, if I get into an argument with someone and they kick me in the stomach so hard I get an embolism and die, that's on them.
But if they kick me in the stomach so hard my fetus dies, that's on me?
But if they kick me in the stomach so hard my fetus dies, that's on me?
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There is so much detail on this that is unclear that it's hard to come to an opinion.
Worst case scenario: The pregnancy was in late term. The pregnant woman attacked the other woman so aggressively that the other woman shooting her was justifiable (by American standards) as self defence.
To me, and I know this may not go down well with some very strong advocates of allowing abortion on demand late term, this is tricky. Charging a woman with manslaughter of a fetus does sound extreme, but by the same token, should a woman be allowed to freely or irresponsibly harm a late term fetus? She wouldn't have to be the victim of a shooting. She could harm the fetus in any number of ways. Drugs for example. I mean, in such cases, if a fetus survived and a baby was born that suffered serious defects of some sort, then the mother's actions would have led to that.
I'm generally in favour of abortion on demand up to a certain reasonable limit, to before when the fetus is sentient, approximately. After that, I'm ok with a fetus being given at least some limited rights and protections. There will always be exceptional circumstances of course. But generally, pick a reasonable limit, and let it become the point at which the status of the fetus is deemed to change.
That's my off the cuff reaction. I admit I haven't thought it through in detail, so I'm happy to be challenged.
Worst case scenario: The pregnancy was in late term. The pregnant woman attacked the other woman so aggressively that the other woman shooting her was justifiable (by American standards) as self defence.
To me, and I know this may not go down well with some very strong advocates of allowing abortion on demand late term, this is tricky. Charging a woman with manslaughter of a fetus does sound extreme, but by the same token, should a woman be allowed to freely or irresponsibly harm a late term fetus? She wouldn't have to be the victim of a shooting. She could harm the fetus in any number of ways. Drugs for example. I mean, in such cases, if a fetus survived and a baby was born that suffered serious defects of some sort, then the mother's actions would have led to that.
I'm generally in favour of abortion on demand up to a certain reasonable limit, to before when the fetus is sentient, approximately. After that, I'm ok with a fetus being given at least some limited rights and protections. There will always be exceptional circumstances of course. But generally, pick a reasonable limit, and let it become the point at which the status of the fetus is deemed to change.
That's my off the cuff reaction. I admit I haven't thought it through in detail, so I'm happy to be challenged.
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Hey, Alabama, stop stealing our headlines.
Sincerely, Florida
Sincerely, Florida
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A bullet shot by someone else caused the death of the fetus, not the gunshot victim. The state of Alabama's logic is using tortured logic driven by inane religious beliefs to persecute women.