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Remember, Antifa only attacks fascists, right?

People of humane principles and decency have always fought back. It might take some time since violence is not our number one go-to reaction to every fucking thing like right wing authoritarian morons, whose perceptions of the world are rooted in fear of every fucking thing.

And you have convinced yourself that this is fundamentally different from left wing authoritarian morons....

Authoritarian ideology is led and supported by people without conscience or humanity. As long as there is some fraction of humankind still alive, there will be those who will fight for what's right and not go along with power hungry, murderous cowards. Inhumane ideologies held by sociopaths and their obedience machines are not sustainable.

Indeed. What you fail to realize is that this isn't unique to the right. Punch a "nazi". That guy over there is a Nazi! Punch a "commie". That guy over there is a commie!
 
People of humane principles and decency have always fought back. It might take some time since violence is not our number one go-to reaction to every fucking thing like right wing authoritarian morons, whose perceptions of the world are rooted in fear of every fucking thing.

And you have convinced yourself that this is fundamentally different from left wing authoritarian morons....

Authoritarian ideology is led and supported by people without conscience or humanity. As long as there is some fraction of humankind still alive, there will be those who will fight for what's right and not go along with power hungry, murderous cowards. Inhumane ideologies held by sociopaths and their obedience machines are not sustainable.

Indeed. What you fail to realize is that this isn't unique to the right. Punch a "nazi". That guy over there is a Nazi! Punch a "commie". That guy over there is a commie!

Since El Paso there have been six right-wing mass shootings stopped by the police before they happened. Tell me more about how both sides are the problem.
 
People of humane principles and decency have always fought back.

Yes. I agree. And uncivilized barbarians initiate violence. I have consistently opposed initiation of violence.

It might take some time since violence is not our number one go-to reaction to every fucking thing like right wing authoritarian morons, whose perceptions of the world are rooted in fear of every fucking thing.

It is the go-to for Antifa, whose perception of the world is rooted in fear of every fucking thing. They fear everyone even a millimeter to their right is a Nazi.

World War II had three factions in a two-way war, with two branches of authoritarian barbarians fighting in eastern Europe and civilized people fighting only one barbarian faction in western Europe. Barbarians on either side are led and supported by people without conscience or humanity. As long as there is some fraction of humanity that is sane and civilized, they will oppose both Fascists and Antifa but won't throw the first punch. Throwing the first punch is the go-to for Antifa. That is why they are either barbarians or lunatics.

Since El Paso there have been six right-wing mass shootings stopped by the police before they happened. Tell me more about how both sides are the problem.

Crimes committed by one group do not absolve a different group of their own crimes.
 
And you have convinced yourself that this is fundamentally different from left wing authoritarian morons....



Indeed. What you fail to realize is that this isn't unique to the right. Punch a "nazi". That guy over there is a Nazi! Punch a "commie". That guy over there is a commie!

Since El Paso there have been six right-wing mass shootings stopped by the police before they happened. Tell me more about how both sides are the problem.

There aren't two "sides" here that you can conveniently divide everyone into, and the psychology of the radically violent left and right have more in common with each other than with normal liberals or conservatives. The talk of everyone who doesn't agree with the left being a nazi plus the punch a nazi rhetoric is very similar to what we hear from actual neo-nazis.
 
And you have convinced yourself that this is fundamentally different from left wing authoritarian morons....



Indeed. What you fail to realize is that this isn't unique to the right. Punch a "nazi". That guy over there is a Nazi! Punch a "commie". That guy over there is a commie!

Since El Paso there have been six right-wing mass shootings stopped by the police before they happened. Tell me more about how both sides are the problem.

There aren't two "sides" here that you can conveniently divide everyone into, and the psychology of the radically violent left and right have more in common with each other than with normal liberals or conservatives. The talk of everyone who doesn't agree with the left being a nazi plus the punch a nazi rhetoric is very similar to what we hear from actual neo-nazis.

Keep flexing that magnificent brain, dude, I won't try to convince you otherwise
 
There aren't two "sides" here that you can conveniently divide everyone into, and the psychology of the radically violent left and right have more in common with each other than with normal liberals or conservatives. The talk of everyone who doesn't agree with the left being a nazi plus the punch a nazi rhetoric is very similar to what we hear from actual neo-nazis.

Keep flexing that magnificent brain, dude, I won't try to convince you otherwise

Now Jolly, you seem top have forgotten that everyone to the right of PH is a Nazi and he is supposed to punch Nazis. That does mean he is supposed to punch everyone, even though he's never punched anyone.
 
I'm not going to educate either of you on your many factual inaccuracies, because it plainly doesn't stick. You'll just double down and dig in your heels. I'm over it. I just wanted to get Andy Ngo's shameless behavior down as a matter of record.
 

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Yeah, totally normal reporter behavior, those shameless reporters, always hanging out with inveterate Neo-Nazis and chuckling as they plot violence against businesses and citizens

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No, Mr. Head. You don't get to divert our attention away from the bigger issue here, that you are supporting physical assault against a reporter you think is doing a bad job of it and is biased.
 
No, Mr. Head. You don't get to divert our attention away from the bigger issue here, that you are supporting physical assault against a reporter you think is doing a bad job of it and is biased.

He is on record stating that he approves of assaulting anyone he doesn't agree with, so there's no reason for him to change his position simply because Mr. Ngo is a reporter.
 
No, Mr. Head. You don't get to divert our attention away from the bigger issue here, that you are supporting physical assault against a reporter you think is doing a bad job of it and is biased.

Calling Ngo a reporter is a bit of a stretch. He manufactures incidents around himself, he's a idiot.
 
No, Mr. Head. You don't get to divert our attention away from the bigger issue here, that you are supporting physical assault against a reporter you think is doing a bad job of it and is biased.

I'm actually not doing that, though. There's a difference between putting an instance of assault into context by providing all the facts and "supporting" assault as some kind of blanket policy proposal. The context surrounding any kind of violent altercation is where the nuance is to be found, and both you and Jason seem almost pathologically uninterested in learning a single new thing today or any other day about antifa, the history of fascist resistance, the power dynamic between right and left wing protesters, the specific reasons each one is engaging in their behavior, or even what that behavior is. You've gagged down the most blatant propaganda and haven't displayed the slightest inkling of curiosity or compassion for the actual victims, the ethnic minorities who are in the cross-hairs of the extreme right wing.

This is all about them; one group wants them to be marginalized, eradicated, barred from entry, relocated, deprived of rights, or locked in holding pens. The group who opposes those ideas strongly enough to actually do something about it, with all the variations you would expect based on human beings and their temperament, is what is loosely and colloquially labeled as "antifa". The story is no more complicated than that.

Somehow, Jason has gotten it into his rapidly expanding head that antifa means "a political movement that wants to install a brutal dictatorship", and your use of the word "authoritarian" seems to imply you're not far off. What authority does antifa possibly want to exercise over you? Not to hurt Hispanic and black people, not to provide material aid to those who do? Hell, what even corresponds to authority within antifa? Who is their manager, and what will you say when you speak to this person? No understanding at all.

If you had a worldview that was based on material reality and not idealism, then you would see why a far-right grifter who deliberately provokes the enemies of fascism into overstepping their boundaries is literally asking to be assaulted. It's the best thing that has ever happened to his career. Is it ugly? Sure. Do I wish harm upon him personally? No. But knowing what I know, and the world situation being what it is, does his bloviating engorged face deserve to be on camera explaining why resistance to fascism in public is terrorism, when fascism is quickly becoming official United States policy? Fuck no. Pick a side in this fight and stop acting like everybody is equally at fault.
 
No, Mr. Head. You don't get to divert our attention away from the bigger issue here, that you are supporting physical assault against a reporter you think is doing a bad job of it and is biased.

Calling Ngo a reporter is a bit of a stretch. He manufactures incidents around himself, he's a idiot.

Ok. But being an idiot doesn't excuse physical assault against somebody either.
 
Somehow, Jason has gotten it into his rapidly expanding head that antifa means "a political movement that wants to install a brutal dictatorship", and your use of the word "authoritarian" seems to imply you're not far off. What authority does antifa possibly want to exercise over you? Not to hurt Hispanic and black people, not to provide material aid to those who do? Hell, what even corresponds to authority within antifa? Who is their manager, and what will you say when you speak to this person? No understanding at all.

We all know what they are against. Perhaps YOU should tell us what they are for. They've stated it quite clearly, but their use of negative definitions allows people to ignore it.
 
Somehow, Jason has gotten it into his rapidly expanding head that antifa means "a political movement that wants to install a brutal dictatorship", and your use of the word "authoritarian" seems to imply you're not far off. What authority does antifa possibly want to exercise over you? Not to hurt Hispanic and black people, not to provide material aid to those who do? Hell, what even corresponds to authority within antifa? Who is their manager, and what will you say when you speak to this person? No understanding at all.

We all know what they are against. Perhaps YOU should tell us what they are for. They've stated it quite clearly, but their use of negative definitions allows people to ignore it.

Link please?
 
Somehow, Jason has gotten it into his rapidly expanding head that antifa means "a political movement that wants to install a brutal dictatorship", and your use of the word "authoritarian" seems to imply you're not far off. What authority does antifa possibly want to exercise over you? Not to hurt Hispanic and black people, not to provide material aid to those who do? Hell, what even corresponds to authority within antifa? Who is their manager, and what will you say when you speak to this person? No understanding at all.

We all know what they are against. Perhaps YOU should tell us what they are for. They've stated it quite clearly, but their use of negative definitions allows people to ignore it.

Link please?

You want me to provide a link to YOU telling us what they are for and not just against? You haven't even made that post yet and you already want me to link to it?
 
Reminder: no official member of the antifa organization has ever broken any law or assaulted anyone












Antifa is not an organization with official members, it's a resistance movement haphazardly and spontaneously formed around the common goal of defending people against fascists

 
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