Pelosi: Impeachment Is Moving Forward

[Jimmy Higgins]

Heard on Maddow. Trump fired Marie Yovanovitch a whole year before Biden announced his candidacy.

Yeah... and somehow this makes you feel this presents Trump in a better light?

1) Why is Trump trying to have someone fire the ambassador?! He can have her reassigned with ease.
2) Why was Trump's goons trying to getting pressure Ukraine to get her fired? Are these people just idiots?
3) Why in the heck did she need to be removed at all?
4) This doesn't free Trump of covering up a potential surveillance of the Ambassador in the first place (against the law).
5) Please note that mentioning this as evidence to help Trump with his shakedown of the Ukrainian leader is a red herring. Firing of the Ambassador wasn't center of the investigation, just the absolute shit job that the State and Trump Admin did to her.

 

[blastula]

Trump Tied Ukraine Aid to Inquiries He Sought, Bolton Book Says - The New York Times

He could be a relevant witness maybe?

 

[Half-Life]

Fox News just showed a part of the trial and I forget who it was but he asked a Democrat on the stand, "Do you have any evidence of Trump committing any crime at all?" The woman responded, "No."

Case closed.

 

[Patooka]

Fox News just showed a part of the trial and I forget who it was but he asked a Democrat on the stand, "Do you have any evidence of Trump committing any crime at all?" The woman responded, "No."

Case closed.

I see your unsubstantiated claim from an anonymous Democrat who isn't part of the proceedings of impeachment on a channel notorious for fellating the President unconditionally, and I raise you the findings of Trumps own fucking government..

Let's be very clear. There is no doubt that Trump abused his position using the State Department as if they were part of his campaign team to further his own selfish agenda. Not even Trump's defense(?) team is denying that. The you are ignorant of this suggests a willfulness on your part to ignore facts as opposed to a willingness to make an informed decision. The question is should Trump be allowed to keep his job? Considering that if he tried this kind of bullshit in the private sector, he'd be sacked on the spot, the answer should be obvious.

It's no, by the way. Trump shouldn't be able to keep his job.

 

[ZiprHead]

Fox News just showed a part of the trial and I forget who it was but he asked a Democrat on the stand, "Do you have any evidence of Trump committing any crime at all?" The woman responded, "No."

Case closed.

That depends entirely on who the person being asked the question was. And since you don't even know who that person was, I don't see it being meaningful at all.

I also found it interesting that Fox News, instead of showing the trial and letting the viewers decide, they cut off the audio and just kept their own commentary going that nothing of any importance was happening. If you think your going to get the full story and not biased half truths and deflections from Fox News you're only fooling yourself.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Fox News just showed a part of the trial and I forget who it was but he asked a Democrat on the stand, "Do you have any evidence of Trump committing any crime at all?" The woman responded, "No."

Case closed.

Bwahahaha. Good one!

 

[Deepak]

Fox News just showed a part of the trial and I forget who it was but he asked a Democrat on the stand, "Do you have any evidence of Trump committing any crime at all?" The woman responded, "No."

Case closed.

Thus far Republicans have not allowed any witnesses, so there is no one who could have taken the stand.

 

[JohnG]

Fox News just showed a part of the trial and I forget who it was but he asked a Democrat on the stand, "Do you have any evidence of Trump committing any crime at all?" The woman responded, "No."

Case closed.

Wait a sec...you watch Fox News?

 

[steve_bank]

The right went after Clinton tooth and nail over getting a blow job.

Trump has clearly abused power. The democrat opening commentary for me was compelling. To the framers impeachment was not only about technical commission of crimes. That is what Lindsay Gram argued over Clinton.

He should be removed. The republicans act as scared little puppies at the sound of Trump. Truly pathetic.

Hyperbole aside, his administration is looking like a mafia. Giuliani has gone from prosecutor to corrupt lawyer.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Fox News just showed a part of the trial and I forget who it was but he asked a Democrat on the stand, "Do you have any evidence of Trump committing any crime at all?" The woman responded, "No."

Case closed.

Wait a sec...you watch Fox News?

Defintely seemed like OAN or Newsmax to me.

 

[Deepak]

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQMdamLzaHU[/YOUTUBE]

 

[Patooka]

To elaborate:

Mr Trump's voice can then be heard saying "Get rid of her. Get her out tomorrow. I don't care. Get her out tomorrow. Take her out. OK? Do it."

The White House did not respond to a request for comment.

Mr Parnas, a former associate of Mr Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani, had recounted the conversation in media interviews last week.

Mr Trump has said that he does not know Mr Parnas.
After the media report on Friday, Mr Parnas found a digital recording of the comments, his lawyer said, and sent it to the House Intelligence Committee, which is continuing to investigate Mr Trump's conduct.

"I was particularly gratified to see that everything Mr Parnas has been stating about that event was true," Mr Bondy said, referring to the April 30, 2018 dinner.

"It is yet another example of Mr Parnas's version of events being corroborated by evidence in the form of recordings, emails, text messages."

What the fuck? Is everybody in America except LA cops wearing body cams these days?

 

[angelo]

I don't think that was your stance during Clinton's impeachment where over 200 Republicans voted to impeach and only 5 Democrats voted to impeach.

I guess all those Democrats are people you don't trust anymore, Keith?

That you believe the circumstances are identical only shows you haven't been paying attention.

It was proved beyond any doubt Clinton lied to the nation. That's far the case the Trump did the same to the American nation, and if you remove the blinkers you'd see that.

 

[zorq]

I don't think that was your stance during Clinton's impeachment where over 200 Republicans voted to impeach and only 5 Democrats voted to impeach.

I guess all those Democrats are people you don't trust anymore, Keith?

That you believe the circumstances are identical only shows you haven't been paying attention.

It was proved beyond any doubt Clinton lied to the nation. That's far the case the Trump did the same to the American nation, and if you remove the blinkers you'd see that.

Did you just allege that Trump has never lied to the nation?

LoL!

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

I don't think that was your stance during Clinton's impeachment where over 200 Republicans voted to impeach and only 5 Democrats voted to impeach.

I guess all those Democrats are people you don't trust anymore, Keith?

That you believe the circumstances are identical only shows you haven't been paying attention.

It was proved beyond any doubt Clinton lied to the nation. That's far the case the Trump did the same to the American nation, and if you remove the blinkers you'd see that.

You finally admit it. It only took throwing 20,000 facts at you. Now you can be on the right side of history.

 

[angelo]

It was proved beyond any doubt Clinton lied to the nation. That's far the case the Trump did the same to the American nation, and if you remove the blinkers you'd see that.

Did you just allege that Trump has never lied to the nation?

LoL!

Are you implying that you've never been lied to by any politician ever? Where do you live, La La Land?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

It was proved beyond any doubt Clinton lied to the nation. That's far the case the Trump did the same to the American nation, and if you remove the blinkers you'd see that.

Did you just allege that Trump has never lied to the nation?

LoL!

Technically it was a false equivalence and Tu Quoque fallacies.

I don't think that was your stance during Clinton's impeachment where over 200 Republicans voted to impeach and only 5 Democrats voted to impeach.

I guess all those Democrats are people you don't trust anymore, Keith?

That you believe the circumstances are identical only shows you haven't been paying attention.

It was proved beyond any doubt Clinton lied to the nation. That's far the case the Trump did the same to the American nation, and if you remove the blinkers you'd see that.

Why in the heck would anyone have blinkers around their eyes?

Seriously, we have all of this repeated bullshit and you can't even get a metaphor correct?

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

Trump Tied Ukraine Aid to Inquiries He Sought, Bolton Book Says - The New York Times

He could be a relevant witness maybe?

Because the crime is so obvious and has been since day one, the republican strategy from that same day one has not wavered. Keep screaming witch-hunt, keep discrediting credible witnesses, keep screaming fake-news, and try to dismiss this thing as quickly as possible so that it just goes away to keep anything new from being known.

If this case was in an actual courtroom Trumpo would be found guilty as hell and every republican ever elected knows that. But it's not a courtroom and it's not an impartial jury.

You gotta give slimy republicans credit because they know they're fucked when it comes to facts. They also know that in an actual courtroom they could never get away with all the shit that is happening.

 

[ZiprHead]

Trump Tied Ukraine Aid to Inquiries He Sought, Bolton Book Says - The New York Times

He could be a relevant witness maybe?

Because the crime is so obvious and has been since day one, the republican strategy from that same day one has not wavered. Keep screaming witch-hunt, keep discrediting credible witnesses, keep screaming fake-news, and try to dismiss this thing as quickly as possible so that it just goes away to keep anything new from being known.

If this case was in an actual courtroom Trumpo would be found guilty as hell and every republican ever elected knows that. But it's not a courtroom and it's not an impartial jury.

You gotta give slimy republicans credit because they know they're fucked when it comes to facts. They also know that in an actual courtroom they could never get away with all the shit that is happening.

And Mulvaney stupidly admitted to it.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

“With that being said the transcripts of my calls with President Zelensky are all the proof that is needed, in addition to the fact that President Zelensky & the Foreign Minister of Ukraine said there was no pressure and no problems. Additionally, I met with President Zelensky at the United Nations (Democrats said I never met) and released the military aid to Ukraine without any conditions or investigations - and far ahead of schedule.

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Far ahead of schedule?! As in some of the funding didn't get spent in time?