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There s a Trumpeter in my building. He essentially echoes FOX. There is no possible discussion.

But the funny thing is, you guys sound like an echo of CNN to us. A lot of us wonder how anyone could possibly take Cuomo, Cooper, or Lemon seriously.

Curious about this, logistically:
How do you know what CNN sounds like? Do you watch it every day to enable you to know what their talking points are? I would not know what sounds like CNN because I have not watched it since the Bush-I era invasion of Kuwait. And since the soundbites that are shown elsewhere do not sound like only 4 Legos, clicked together in various shapes over an over again, I am not able to detect what a CNN “sound” is like.

Fox, on the other hand, when I walk by a TV showing it or see the screen grabs that its followers post, is almost perfectly analogous to just 4 Lego bricks, constantly clicked together in the few possible configurations that 4 Lego bricks could even potentially attain.

This is just one bystander’s view. I do not watch ANY cable news (I do not have cable TV), other than what I walk past. And FOX is very easy to predict and identify. Very very easy. Play me 3 notes and I can correctly identify it. All of the others? The content is so diverse and varied that you cannot tell by the content alone who it is.

So I can’t tell the difference between any of the talking heads by sight (even aside from my very real difficulties in telling different people apart in the first place), but the content of FOX is so simplistic, so angry, so aggressively propagandistic, and so reliably all of these, that “echoing FOX” is something that even a media recluse like myself can readily detect.

It’s interesting.
 
T.G.G. Moogly said:
It's become sport, not governance. You know how that works, your team is the beneficiary of a bad call, or gets away with a flagrant foul and nothing is called, but it's all okay and you cheer on your home team.

But if a bad call goes against your team or if the other team gets away with a flagrant violation it's time to rewrite the rules and throw out the referee because he's incompetent. The problem isn't the rules or the teams or the referees, the problem is you because you like to play dirty, cheat so you can win, and you're biased because you have a favorite team.
The analogy isn't quite correct. The GOP had opportunity and definitely the drive to bury any scandal they could find in the Obama Admin. That is why Benghazi was so popular, because Obama didn't have much else to complain about. But this did happen during his Presidency... when the GOP had the Senate majority. If this were so important, why didn't they do anything about it THEN?! It was in the news, it was a bit controversial... but the GOP didn't deal with it.

To be targeting it now, makes absolutely no sense. It'd be like...

like...

umm....

...to be honest, I can't come up with an analogy. It is that stupid.
 
There s a Trumpeter in my building. He essentially echoes FOX. There is no possible discussion.

But the funny thing is, you guys sound like an echo of CNN to us. A lot of us wonder how anyone could possibly take Cuomo, Cooper, or Lemon seriously.

You have a point. CNN does have some bias toward the Dem Party establishment. Their reporting is all true. Someimes they leave counterpoints out. And they are unfair to Bernie. I'd give them a B. Why believe them? Well, they tell the truth, unlike Fox. Fox engages in smears, false conspiracies, lies by ommission, and hyperbole. They are the worst. I'd give them an F.
As far as Cuomo, the reason he is so trustworthy is that every show he invites a Republican and then debates them. Cuomo utterly destroys them. The only flaw I see with him is that whenever the discussion of Bernie comes up, he doesn't challenge the information like he does with everything else. I'd give him an A-. I think you should watch him destroy your buddies' talking points. You might learn something.
 
I'm reminded of a project I worked on. A very large one. And there were issues and we needed to address it, who's fault it was, etc... The first thing you need to decide is how do you make the argument, and I generally liked the "straight to fucking point" method. Because once you use too many words, things get muddled, even if you are 100% correct. And listening to the remarks today by the Trump team lawyer, that is exactly what was happening. They were parsing syllables in order to try and poke holes in the case presented. It reminded me of that project and pissed me off that such bullshit methods work.
 
Here's what the far right are thinking of the impeachment process:
ROASTING’ in progress: Pam Bondi trends while ‘making the media very uncomfortable’ with Senate presentation about the Bidens and Ukraine

President Trump’s defense at the Senate impeachment trial began Saturday with a short session, and is continuing today. One of the members of the president’s defense is Pam Bondi, and she’s bringing the heat when it comes to the Bidens and Ukraine:

So basically, not even the most ardent of Trump supporters are trying to defend his innocence. They're just content if those evil Bidens take a hit. Talk about cutting off the nose to spite the face.
"We don't care that our house is burning down, so long as some evil leftists burn with us! Winning!"
It should be pointed out that Bondi was at one time suing trump. When she was offered a generous settlement, she dropped the case.
 
Here's what the far right are thinking of the impeachment process:
ROASTING’ in progress: Pam Bondi trends while ‘making the media very uncomfortable’ with Senate presentation about the Bidens and Ukraine

President Trump’s defense at the Senate impeachment trial began Saturday with a short session, and is continuing today. One of the members of the president’s defense is Pam Bondi, and she’s bringing the heat when it comes to the Bidens and Ukraine:

So basically, not even the most ardent of Trump supporters are trying to defend his innocence. They're just content if those evil Bidens take a hit. Talk about cutting off the nose to spite the face.
"We don't care that our house is burning down, so long as some evil leftists burn with us! Winning!"
It should be pointed out that Bondi was at one time suing trump. When she was offered a generous settlement, she dropped the case.

Actually she was a prosecutor investigating the dirty Trump University. Bonespurs gave her a $25,000 campaign fund donation and she dropped the case. So she allowed herself to be bribed while working as a civil servant. A perfect lawyer for Trump.
 
Parnas said that he and Rudy offered the same deal to the prior president Poroshenko too.

[YOUTUBE]https://youtu.be/9JKraI_Rh6g[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]https://youtu.be/QUXht__f3Rk[/YOUTUBE]
 
There s a Trumpeter in my building. He essentially echoes FOX. There is no possible discussion.

But the funny thing is, you guys sound like an echo of CNN to us. A lot of us wonder how anyone could possibly take Cuomo, Cooper, or Lemon seriously.

You have a point. CNN does have some bias toward the Dem Party establishment. Their reporting is all true. Someimes they leave counterpoints out. And they are unfair to Bernie. I'd give them a B. Why believe them? Well, they tell the truth, unlike Fox. Fox engages in smears, false conspiracies, lies by ommission, and hyperbole. They are the worst. I'd give them an F.
As far as Cuomo, the reason he is so trustworthy is that every show he invites a Republican and then debates them. Cuomo utterly destroys them. The only flaw I see with him is that whenever the discussion of Bernie comes up, he doesn't challenge the information like he does with everything else. I'd give him an A-. I think you should watch him destroy your buddies' talking points. You might learn something.

How Cuomo destroy Republicans? What I view as evidence is the real world. Remember when Putin used to fly his Russian jets to the edge of U.S. airspace to taunt Obama? He knew Obama was weak. You don't see him doing that with Republican Presidents. Why? Because they know Republicans would fight back.
 
How do you know what CNN sounds like? Do you watch it every day to enable you to know what their talking points are?
HIS echo chamber tells him what to say about how they sound...

When FOX wants your opinion, they will tell it to you over and over and over and over again, until you think it IS your opinion.

They're the same way with their "facts," aka propaganda and talking points.

BTW those two vids posted by Zipper are worth the 16 minutes to watch. I originally thought Parnas was a hack but he is calm, articulate, informed, confident, not the person the GOP wants to take the witness stand.
 
[YOUTUBE]https://youtu.be/QUXht__f3Rk[/YOUTUBE]

Interesting that the recording of Trump at the hotel meeting confirms what Parnas said happened there as very accurate.
 
When FOX wants your opinion, they will tell it to you over and over and over and over again, until you think it IS your opinion.

They're the same way with their "facts," aka propaganda and talking points.

BTW those two vids posted by Zipper are worth the 16 minutes to watch. I originally thought Parnas was a hack but he is calm, articulate, informed, confident, not the person the GOP wants to take the witness stand.

You guys really are nuts sometimes. Just admit you guys can't beat Trump in an election and the only chance you have is to get Trump removed from office. You guys all know if the Senate doesn't remove him, he's going to be in office until 2025 and that scares you guys senseless.

Just look on the bright side. 5 years from now it'll finally all be over and you guys can go back to laughing at Trump's jokes on the late night talk shows again once everyone welcomes him back.
 
It should be pointed out that Bondi was at one time suing trump. When she was offered a generous settlement, she dropped the case.

Actually she was a prosecutor investigating the dirty Trump University. Bonespurs gave her a $25,000 campaign fund donation and she dropped the case. So she allowed herself to be bribed while working as a civil servant. A perfect lawyer for Trump.

Was someone prosecuted for this?

Still doesn't sound as bad as Bernie Sanders being kicked out of a commune in 1970 because he refused to contribute anything to it. Imagine if that was Trump. You guys would be saying, "Trump's uselessness confirmed."
 
How Cuomo destroy Republicans? What I view as evidence is the real world. Remember when Putin used to fly his Russian jets to the edge of U.S. airspace to taunt Obama? He knew Obama was weak. You don't see him doing that with Republican Presidents. Why? Because they know Republicans would fight back.

Youbetcha, Sarah.

May 28, 2019 - Russia is harassing U.S. jets in the Arctic as part of a Putin power play - NBC News

Sept. 29, 2006 - NORAD Intercepts Russian Aircraft > North American Aerospace Defense Command > Newsroom
 
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