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The more I read about Malcolm X the more I like him and and the separatism he supported.

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It appears that there are people who take the destruction of social order quite seriously. Making it their mission in life. Sowing disorder instead of working toward peace and reconciliation.
 
It appears that there are people who take the destruction of social order quite seriously. Making it their mission in life. Sowing disorder instead of working toward peace and reconciliation.
Yes. They are taking advantage. And what’s worse, they seem to be welcomed by some. You can hear, ‘yo, we got bricks’ in the video. One can imagine that that pile of bricks won’t be there for long.

This has gone way past being only about protests over the injustice done to George Floyd. That was just a spark. It seems there was already a lot of very dry tinder out there.

I suppose it’s even possible that coronavirus and the lockdown might have been at least a small exacerbating factor?

Some people have been saying for quite a while that America might be due another revolution. I’m not going to overstate things and say that this is it, this will probably pass, but it’s possible that this sort of thing is what those people were in some ways talking about. And if that’s the case, I would not be surprised if it (some of the underlying tension and dissatisfaction) was not just about race. There seem to be big divisions in America, between races, between the left and right and between the wealthy and the rest, and things seem to have been getting generally worse this last 10 years or so at least.
 
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There do seem to be some quite unprecedented aspects to the aftermath. Swift condemnation from other police forces, even some showing of solidarity with protesters, such as a black and a white policeman together holding up an, ‘End police brutality’ placard (in Kansas I think). Has anything like that ever happened before?

Add to that the fast processing of the case to arrest and (3rd degree murder) charges.

Even Donald Trump hasn’t handled it as bad as might have been feared, and it might not even be fair, as much as I dislike him, to say he’s handled it badly at all, on the whole (yes I’m aware of some of the criticisms, including from Floyd’s brother).

If US politicians have any sense, they’ll bring in some reforms for policing after this, assuming they can. It won’t be easy, I’m sure, but I read that the force which serves the area that Eric Garner was killed in had made some, fairly recently, involving an emphasis on a less confrontational approach.

How on earth can be it be ok for the head of a police union to be organising ‘warrior style’, ‘killology’ training seminars for officers to attend? How is that even allowed? And we are talking about the police force serving the area in this case.
 
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Agreed. That would be like blaming Trump for losing your car keys.



Oh good. Frankly I was pretty uncomfortable agreeing with you. Take your meds, and you won't see big bad government purposely releasing convicted criminals just so they have room for quarantine violators.

Posted a few paragraphs after accusing people of screaming Russian conspiracy deluded.

I recently left California. I'm sure you've seen differently where you are. Are you trying to tell me "they don't do that in Sidney so they don't do that in Los Angeles"? Sure.

Instruct jails to release criminals to make room for quarantine violators? Nope, not a thing in Sydney, nor I suspect anywhere else.

Ah, you are looking for official instructions, while I'm looking at the practical real-world effects of what is happening. First there was an instruction to release criminals due to Covid, then there was the arresting of quarantine violators. Probably the two aren't the result of one singular order, but the effect is exactly what I described.
 
I suppose it’s even possible that coronavirus and the lockdown might have been at least a small exacerbating factor?

Well, 40 million people or so (and likely growing every day) have filed for unemployment. So, definitely that added some kindling, I would say.
 
But some on here want lawbreakers only arrested when they are white (example: Elixir).
That is untrue. Elixir wrote "I'd be all for it if they rounded up this guy and those like him. -You know, the WHITE people who actually started doing that shit." where the "all for it" was rounding up all the looters and rioters and making them clean up and rebuild.

You quoted the whole thing, so why do you ignore his qualification that he is only for arresting these thugs if they are white?
You are the one ignoring the content of the quote. As I pointed out the "all for it" refers to RVonse's rounding up all of the looters and rioters and then making them clean up and reconstruct. Clearly all of the looter and rioters involves anyone of any race.
 
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They can't burn down their own neighborhood. They need their weave.
I watched that video. There is no mention of "weaves". The profanity-laden points of that video are
1) "Don't bring the violence and ignorance" here, and
2) take to the racist neighborhoods.

I would think you would agree with the former point and disagree with the latter point (as do I). So why the bigoted description "they need their weave" when there is no mention of that at all? Hmmmm.
 
How on earth can be it be ok for the head of a police union to be organising ‘warrior style’, ‘killology’ training seminars for officers to attend? How is that even allowed? And we are talking about the police force serving the area in this case.

Welcome to the USA. It's not all this way but there is enough of it and enough class and racial division that it doesn't take much to ignite a firestorm. I'm not sure how to quantify Donald Trump's election and connect it to what's happening except to see it as making the situation worse. He seems to be taking down much of the gains that liberal administrations have accomplished and that have benefited individual citizens. What trump says and what Trump does are two different things. He can sing a nice song but there's nothing to back it up such as we might have seen with other administrations. In fact, what he does is just the opposite, such as when he talks health insurance.
 
Instruct jails to release criminals to make room for quarantine violators? Nope, not a thing in Sydney, nor I suspect anywhere else.

Ah, you are looking for official instructions, while I'm looking at the practical real-world effects of what is happening. First there was an instruction to release criminals due to Covid, then there was the arresting of quarantine violators. Probably the two aren't the result of one singular order, but the effect is exactly what I described.
So, they released people from prisons because of COVID and when they arrest violators (of the how many have actually been arrested and detained?), they release more from prison because people are sent to prison while in holding after just being arrested?
 
“In Some Cities, Police Officers Joined Protesters Marching Against Brutality”.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...ed-protesters-marching-against-brutality/amp/

I guess that explains police arresting the truck driver who tried to avoid becoming the next Reginald Denny instead of arresting rioters who blockaded the interstate (yet again).

No injuries reported, driver arrested after truck drives into crowd of protesters in Minneapolis

I have said repeatedly over the years that if you allow extremists to blockade highways with no consequences, you invite more extreme riots in the future. I guess I was proven right. :(

That truck driver was speeding on a road that had been officially temporarily closed (apparently he managed to get around the ‘road closed’ signs). Looked like the huge truck was doing about 50mph. There were hundreds of people in the road, there could have been many fatalities. And it looked to me like a peaceful protest in that instance, not a riot, albeit the protesters may have illegally blocked the road. One can understand the driver’s frustration, but still.
Remember folks, if a Muslim does that...
 
The Memo: Strife turns up heat on Trump | TheHill
Further instances of rioting and looting could yet make some moderate white voters warm to his hard-edged rhetoric. Racial polarization, grim though it is, is not necessarily an electoral loser for the president.

But for now, Trump must lead a nation riven with tension, distrust and rage. Given his past and present comments, many voters seem unlikely to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Minnesota officials believe white supremacists attending demonstrations in Twin Cities, official says | TheHill
Minnesota officials have identified white nationalist groups operating on the ground amid the protests in Minneapolis and St. Paul over the death of George Floyd in police custody, the state's Department of Corrections said late Sunday.

Commissioner Paul Schnell told reporters at a press conference that recruiting materials in the form of posters had been located by officials in the Twin Cities, adding that his office is investigating as-yet unsubstantiated claims that Antifa-aligned groups were active in the cities as well, according to local news affiliate KTTC.

Virginia declares state of emergency over protests | TheHill
 
“In Some Cities, Police Officers Joined Protesters Marching Against Brutality”.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...ed-protesters-marching-against-brutality/amp/

I guess that explains police arresting the truck driver who tried to avoid becoming the next Reginald Denny instead of arresting rioters who blockaded the interstate (yet again).

No injuries reported, driver arrested after truck drives into crowd of protesters in Minneapolis

I have said repeatedly over the years that if you allow extremists to blockade highways with no consequences, you invite more extreme riots in the future. I guess I was proven right. :(

That truck driver was speeding on a road that had been officially temporarily closed (apparently he managed to get around the ‘road closed’ signs). Looked like the huge truck was doing about 50mph. There were hundreds of people in the road, there could have been many fatalities. And it looked to me like a peaceful protest in that instance, not a riot, albeit the protesters may have illegally blocked the road. One can understand the driver’s frustration, but still.
The highway was closed to traffic. There was no valid reason for the truck to be on the road.

If the truck driver was frustrated, driving on a closed road into human beings is not an appropriate way to deal with it.

Allowing protesters onto a closed road to protest is a good way to manage the protest and minimize damage to property.

That driver should get real prison time.
 
John Cusack attacked by police and ‘hit by pepper spray’ while filming Chicago protests

Cusack wrote on Twitter: “Cops didn’t like me filming the burning car so they came at me with batons. Hitting my bike.”

In the video of the incident, also posted by Cusack, a police officer can be heard shouting at Cusack to move, alongside sounds of metal hitting metal.

“Alright, alright,” Cusack is heard replying.

In a separate tweet, Cusack said he had also been “hit by pepper spray” during the protests.
 
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