Police Misconduct Catch All Thread

[zorq]

I agree that it would be appropriate to rettract that statement as an obvious flase claim about what is clear in the video. She never ever struck him.

Loren - are you going to try to stand by your statement that she struck him? Or admit that you were untruthfully escalating the situation so that you could then claim the cop was justofied in punching the passenger in the face without warning?

She was right up close to him and then moves forward at :18, deliberately causing a collision. He pulls back and starts punching.

First, I love how you think you are a mind reader insisting that if there was collision then it was definately "deliberate." You aren't a mind reader. Secondly, there was no contact at 18. First contact was at 20 when the officer pushes her away with his left arm to give his right hook the potential for maximum damage. the fact that he was forced to move his arm so much indicates that there was space between them.

 

[laughing dog]

You think cops are trained to escalate? To respond to crowding with punches?
That is reprehensible behavior and that you make excuses for it and provide him cover is revolting.

This isn't simply a matter of being in his personal space, but deliberately bumping into him. That's assault and battery.

And what I'm saying is that cops are trained to respond with a level of force a bit above what is being used against them. You could call that escalating.

If police are trained to go off on someone when they are slightly "bumped", then it is time to put all of them down.

Childish? It's a pretty good deterrent if it's actual and not just words.

Sorry, that officer's reaction was wrong. It is frightening to think there are people who downplay that monster's assault.

 

[ruby sparks]

....deliberately bumping into him. That's assault and battery.

It’s because of people like you making up false allegations that violent people such as that policeman get away with assaults in the real world, including, as it so happens in this case, a man thumping a woman in the head so hard it knocks her to the ground. It’s fortunate she didn’t crack her skull.

So as such you are definitely and literally endorsing actual, serious, violent assaults, in this case by men on women as it happens, because this isn’t a hypothetical scenario. An actual man violently assaulted an actual woman a few days ago, and you are making false allegations about her as an individual. And given that you must by now have seen the video umpteen times and still can’t accept that you initially made a mistake, you are being stubborn to the point of effectively being dishonest. You are basically by now lying outright, as you would be if you were hypothetically the only third party witness to this incident and giving a false account of it in court.

 

[Rhea]

....deliberately bumping into him. That's assault and battery.

It’s because of people like you making up false allegations that violent people such as that policeman get away with assaults in the real world, including, as it so happens in this case, a man thumping a woman in the head so hard it knocks her to the ground. It’s fortunate she didn’t crack her skull.

So as such you are definitely and literally endorsing actual, serious, violent assaults, in this case by men on women as it happens, because this isn’t a hypothetical scenario. An actual man violently assaulted an actual woman a few days ago, and you are making false allegations about her as an individual. And given that you must by now have seen the video umpteen times and still can’t accept that you initially made a mistake, you are being stubborn to the point of effectively being dishonest. You are basically by now lying outright, as you would be if you were hypothetically the only third party witness to this incident and giving a false account of it in court.

That’s a rather frightening thought. Picturing a jury that had this attitude on it.

Or, for that matter, picturing a Police training instructor with this attitude on it.
Or a Police comissioner.

Or a husband.


This attitude explicitly gives permission and comfort to those who escalate beyond all reason to react to a person crowding them with words to haul off and punch them in the face.

It is deplorable, Loren. Right, left and center. This is malevolent escalation. And you think it’s great. You like it.

 

[ruby sparks]

That’s a rather frightening thought. Picturing a jury that had this attitude on it.

Or, for that matter, picturing a Police training instructor with this attitude on it.
Or a Police comissioner.

Or a husband.

Well, we know at least some cops would lie about it, to cover up for a colleague. Now it seems we might have someone a bit like that, possibly sitting at a computer terminal wearing a fancy dress policeman outfit, fondling his pretend baton, doing it too.

Ok I'm done on this one.

 

[horhangi]

....deliberately bumping into him. That's assault and battery.

It’s because of people like you making up false allegations that violent people such as that policeman get away with assaults in the real world, including, as it so happens in this case, a man thumping a woman in the head so hard it knocks her to the ground. It’s fortunate she didn’t crack her skull.

The bolded did not happen.

 

[Testy Calibrate]

If police are trained to go off on someone when they are slightly "bumped", then it is time to put all of them down.

Childish? It's a pretty good deterrent if it's actual and not just words.

Sorry, that officer's reaction was wrong. It is frightening to think there are people who downplay that monster's assault.

#PutOutTheirEyes

 

[ruby sparks]

....deliberately bumping into him. That's assault and battery.

It’s because of people like you making up false allegations that violent people such as that policeman get away with assaults in the real world, including, as it so happens in this case, a man thumping a woman in the head so hard it knocks her to the ground. It’s fortunate she didn’t crack her skull.

The bolded did not happen.

Fair enough. He pushed her to the ground after hitting her.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I agree that it would be appropriate to rettract that statement as an obvious flase claim about what is clear in the video. She never ever struck him.

Loren - are you going to try to stand by your statement that she struck him? Or admit that you were untruthfully escalating the situation so that you could then claim the cop was justofied in punching the passenger in the face without warning?

She was right up close to him and then moves forward at :18, deliberately causing a collision. He pulls back and starts punching.

First, I love how you think you are a mind reader insisting that if there was collision then it was definately "deliberate." You aren't a mind reader. Secondly, there was no contact at 18. First contact was at 20 when the officer pushes her away with his left arm to give his right hook the potential for maximum damage. the fact that he was forced to move his arm so much indicates that there was space between them.

He pushed her away because she stepped into him.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

....deliberately bumping into him. That's assault and battery.

It’s because of people like you making up false allegations that violent people such as that policeman get away with assaults in the real world, including, as it so happens in this case, a man thumping a woman in the head so hard it knocks her to the ground. It’s fortunate she didn’t crack her skull.

So as such you are definitely and literally endorsing actual, serious, violent assaults, in this case by men on women as it happens, because this isn’t a hypothetical scenario. An actual man violently assaulted an actual woman a few days ago, and you are making false allegations about her as an individual. And given that you must by now have seen the video umpteen times and still can’t accept that you initially made a mistake, you are being stubborn to the point of effectively being dishonest. You are basically by now lying outright, as you would be if you were hypothetically the only third party witness to this incident and giving a false account of it in court.

How many times do I have to repeat that I think he used too much force??

 

[laughing dog]

How many times do I have to repeat that I think he used too much force??

Perhaps more times than your attempts to minimize his reaction with your delusional claims about her deliberating attacking him or using force.

 

[Worldtraveller]

Cops flashing white power signs at proud boys:

https://twitter.com/drvox/status/12...talkrational.org/index.php/topic206.2600.html

 

[Worldtraveller]

Cops break in and rape woman. As usual, they mistakenly got the wrong address and meant to rape the council woman who slashed the police budget:

https://twitter.com/kendallybrown/s...talkrational.org/index.php/topic206.2600.html

 

[Worldtraveller]

Cops discover that all of the body cams from every single one of them 'malfunctioned' during the lafayette square incident.

https://twitter.com/gabrielmalor/st...talkrational.org/index.php/topic206.2600.html

 

[Worldtraveller]

Never trust the cops' version of the story:

https://freethoughtblogs.com/singha...d-violence-and-destruction-and-lied-about-it/

 

[zorq]

Cops flashing white power signs at proud boys:

https://twitter.com/drvox/status/12...talkrational.org/index.php/topic206.2600.html

I notice that in this video the civilian does clearly hit not one but two police officers. That is deliberate assault and battery in Loren's book. Yet somehow the civilian manages to avoid getting arrested, detained, punched in the face or tackled. Odd that.

 

[Rhea]

Cops flashing white power signs at proud boys:

https://twitter.com/drvox/status/12...talkrational.org/index.php/topic206.2600.html

I notice that in this video the civilian does clearly hit not one but two police officers. That is deliberate assault and battery in Loren's book. Yet somehow the civilian manages to avoid getting arrested, detained, punched in the face or tackled. Odd that.

What could be the difference?

 

[Worldtraveller]

Hey Loren, I'm waiting for you to come defend all these police behaviors that I posted. Are you still going to go with the 'few bad apples' claim, the 'should have complied' claim, or are you going to invent some new and improved form of bootlicking?

Also, I've got a lot more examples once you're caught up.

 

[laughing dog]

Cops flashing white power signs at proud boys:

https://twitter.com/drvox/status/12...talkrational.org/index.php/topic206.2600.html

I notice that in this video the civilian does clearly hit not one but two police officers. That is deliberate assault and battery in Loren's book. Yet somehow the civilian manages to avoid getting arrested, detained, punched in the face or tackled. Odd that.

What could be the difference?

Clearly these officers were not properly trained to react to such threats to personal safety. I wonder if they were disciplined for not beating the shite out of those thugs.

 

[Worldtraveller]

Just a few more bad apples:

https://twitter.com/tomgara/status/...talkrational.org/index.php/topic206.2600.html