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America's toughest Sheriff loses Republican primary for sheriff.

Pardoned by Mr. Despicable himself, loser of a 2018 Republican primary Senate seat, all around rotten individual, and now this, Sheriff Joe says this will be his last run for office.
Oh well, here's to hoping you die of exposure, Joe.
Even though he lost, he got a disturbingly high number of votes. That's Maricopa for you, though. I used to love that area, but the constant influx of right wing politics, mostly from out of state retirees that then go on to fuck over just about every aspect of the economy and social services that don't directly benefit them, has made it into a real shithole.
 

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The Infuriating History of Why Police Unions Have So Much Power – Mother Jones
As other labor unions have shrunk in recent years, membership in police unions has remained high. While the Black Lives Matter movement encouraged people to document police brutality on camera and demand accountability, police unions, which now have hundreds of thousands of members, have pushed back in almost every way imaginable—by overturning firings, opposing the use of body cameras, and lobbying to keep their members’ disciplinary histories sealed.

All of which can make officers feel invincible when they commit acts of violence. A forthcoming research paper from the University of Victoria in Canada found that after police officers formed unions—generally between the 1950s and the 1980s—there was a “substantial” increase in police killings of Black and Brown people in the United States. Within a decade of gaining collective bargaining rights, officers killed an additional 60 to 70 civilians of all races per year collectively, compared with previous years, an increase that researchers say may be linked to officers’ belief that their unions would protect them from prosecution. A working paper from the University of Chicago found that complaints of violent misconduct by Florida sheriffs’ offices jumped 40 percent after deputies there won collective bargaining rights in 2003.

Police unions, like all unions, were designed to protect their own. But unlike other labor unions, they represent workers with the state-sanctioned power to use deadly force. And they have successfully bargained for more job security than what’s afforded to most workers, security they can often rely on even after committing acts of violence that would likely get anyone else fired or locked up.
They get support from (1) other labor unionists who don't want to desert fellow labor unionists and (2) Republican politicians who normally hate labor unions. About the first one, they know what happened to them after they deserted the air traffic controllers' union.
In the wake of Floyd’s death, some politicians are taking steps to sever their ties with police unions. By early July, more than a dozen House Democrats signed a pledge to reject campaign contributions from the Fraternal Order of Police, including representatives Alexandria Ocasio-*Cortez of New York, Ilhan Omar of Minne*sota, Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts, and Rashida Tlaib of Michigan. And in May, more than 40 district attorneys wrote that prosecutors “should not seek or accept” support from police or their unions. But that leaves more than 2,000 head prosecutors who did not sign on.

There’s also growing pressure to kick cop unions out of labor councils like the AFL-CIO, the country’s biggest union coalition. Police unions are different from other unions anyway, since they’ve never been aligned with the larger labor movement and have often acted as adversaries. In Minneapolis in the early 1900s, the police department regularly broke up strikes after forming an alliance with a right-wing business group known as the Citizens Alliance. In 1968, Memphis police responded to a Martin Luther King Jr.–led march in support of striking sanitation workers by macing and clubbing demonstrators who had taken refuge in a church. “The police have a history of cracking heads on picket lines, and yet anytime you try to lean into a reform, they recede into this labor solidarity movement that they’ve never been a part of,” says Jeremiah Ellison, the Minneapolis Council member.
 

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But there's the problem that attacking police unions may set a precedent for attacking other labor unions. That's what happened with Reagan vs. the air traffic controllers' union in the 1980's.
Reforming the police’s collective bargaining does not necessarily have to upend the rights of other workers. In an op-ed, Benjamin Sachs, a Harvard labor law expert, wrote that courts, including the Supreme Court, have stepped in to limit specific types of bargaining powers without threatening unions more generally. Lawmakers could limit the types of subjects that cops can bargain over—for instance, allowing them to negotiate their pay and benefits, but not disciplinary procedures. In June, the Washington, DC, Council voted to do just that. It’s “a best practice that other cities should look to,” says Sinyangwe, the data scientist.

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It may also be possible to defang cop unions by returning to the main demands of Black organizers: Defund and dismantle the police. Reducing the size of the force, says Theresa Rocha Beardall, a sociologist who studies police unions at Virginia Tech, can do a lot to reduce the power of its union. “As you grow, your union dues increase, and as your union dues increase, so does your leverage over city hall,” she says. Cut membership, and mayors may take a harder line during negotiations.
 

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A sheriff's deputy filed a lawsuit after getting into an altercation with Raptors' president Masai Ujiri. He claimed Ujiri had a “violent predisposition” and acted with an “evil motive amounting to malice.”

New video clearly shows the deputy shoving first

https://www.ktvu.com/news/new-video...al-aggressor-in-toronto-raptors-shoving-match

But in February, Strickland filed a federal lawsuit against Ujiri, the Raptors, Maple Leaf Entertainment at the NBA alleging Ujiri shoved him so hard on the court that he suffered physical injuries to his head, jaw, chin and teeth.

Strickland also filed a workers' compensation claim alleging Ujiri “circumvented” the security checkpoint and then tried to “storm” the court and “hit him in the face and chest with both fists.”

Strickland also claimed Ujiri had a “violent predisposition” and acted with an “evil motive amounting to malice,” according to his suit and workers' compensation claims.

Another big fat liar cop. And he gets paid mighty well for it.

According to Transparent California, Strickland earned $224,000 a year, not including benefits, in 2018.

I hope Ujiri takes the professional liar for all he can.
 

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Planned Parenthood details incident that led to West Seneca police officer's suspension

Planned Parenthood says an individual arrived to the West Seneca health center and demanded to speak to his partner who he believed was receiving treatment there. In the process, officials say the individual's behavior became a threat and he was asked to leave.

After leaving the individual attempted to enter again and kicked the door several times which caused the staff to call police.

According to Planned Parenthood, after the responding officer found out a Black Lives Matter sign in the window belonged to the organization the officer berated the staff for supporting the movement and left after refusing to respond to the call.
 

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I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned the state trooper in Georgia who was recently charged with murder.

https://www.ajc.com/news/breaking-georgia-state-trooper-fired-charged-with-murder-in-drivers-shooting-death/HSIAXSQ5INAJBO6EMXLXE65DFI/


On Friday, Jacob Gordon Thompson, 27, was fired and charged in the Aug. 7 shooting that killed 60-year-old Julian Lewis last Friday in Screven County. Lewis family attorney Francys Johnson said he also learned Friday that the U.S. Department of Justice had approved his request for the civil rights investigation, which Johnson asked for because of other allegations against Thompson.

“We got lots of messages from people in the community that the habit of ex-trooper Thompson was to racially profile and harass Black and brown people on the highway,” Johnson, former head of the Georgia NAACP, told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. “This was not shocking to them that this happened.”
 

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Planned Parenthood details incident that led to West Seneca police officer's suspension

Planned Parenthood says an individual arrived to the West Seneca health center and demanded to speak to his partner who he believed was receiving treatment there. In the process, officials say the individual's behavior became a threat and he was asked to leave.

After leaving the individual attempted to enter again and kicked the door several times which caused the staff to call police.

According to Planned Parenthood, after the responding officer found out a Black Lives Matter sign in the window belonged to the organization the officer berated the staff for supporting the movement and left after refusing to respond to the call.
Just a few bad apples.....

Also, I'm sure the cops are ok with people not serving them, since they expect to not have to do their job when someone *checks notes* supports a group that wants social justice. I mean, I can see why cops would be against that.
 

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And there's more......

https://www.ajc.com/news/valdosta-officer-claims-slamming-black-man-to-ground-justified/ZNUMM6EEKRCXZDT2RCUYVSFJWE/

A white Georgia police officer accused of excessive force in a federal civil rights lawsuit claims he did nothing wrong during the February arrest of an innocent Black man whose wrist was broken after being slammed to the ground.


In a legal filing this week, attorneys for Valdosta police Lt. Billy Wheeler admit he misidentified Antonio Arnelo Smith as a wanted felon, but said excessive force was justified because the man resisted arrest, according to The Associated Press.

The violent take-down on February 8 prompted the 46-year-old Smith to retain his own lawyer, Nathaniel Haugabrook, who filed suit in June against the Valdosta Police Department, saying officers violated his client’s civil rights.

So, the White cop slams the man down, breaks his wrist, and shortly after the other cop tells him, he. has the wrong man. It does seem a bit weird that it's almost innocent Black people who are misidentified by the police. Not that I would ever believe that racism h as anything to do with their careless behavior. /s
 

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According to this, Portland police have decided to just give up and let the Proud Boys handle keeping protests civil. Top picture in the article is of a Proud Boy with a gun, and crosses on his body armor.
 

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According to this, Portland police have decided to just give up and let the Proud Boys handle keeping protests civil. Top picture in the article is of a Proud Boy with a gun, and crosses on his body armor.

From the article;

Another Proud Boy, Tusitala “Tiny” Toese, was present, per the Post, in apparent violation of his parole over an attack at a similar demonstration in 2017 (he wasn’t apprehended on Saturday, but a judge on Monday issued a warrant for his arrest).

Tusitala was Robert Louis Stevenson Samoan name, "Teller of Tales". A strange name for a thug to be called.
 

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Hey Loren, I'm waiting for you to come defend all these police behaviors that I posted. Are you still going to go with the 'few bad apples' claim, the 'should have complied' claim, or are you going to invent some new and improved form of bootlicking?

Also, I've got a lot more examples once you're caught up.
Give Loren a break. He is only used to how the Chinese Communist Party runs the police in China and has lost reality how good police should act.
 

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Hey Loren, I'm waiting for you to come defend all these police behaviors that I posted. Are you still going to go with the 'few bad apples' claim, the 'should have complied' claim, or are you going to invent some new and improved form of bootlicking?

Also, I've got a lot more examples once you're caught up.
Give Loren a break. He is only used to how the Chinese Communist Party runs the police in China and has lost reality how good police should act.
Says the guy who apparently supports the President who sent out unmarked Fed Agents on to the streets in Portland to cause problems to sell advertising for his fucking campaign!
 

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Hi everyone. Yet another reminder, cops are bastards. All of them.

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R49P9TuFLOQ&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR1EGnIdWPPZawoS6ufGYxYHUDxZEfpjpI2wK5-3h25tpfJq6JVpD-4u4l0[/YOUTUBE]

Here's an article:

https://www.azcentral.com/story/new...tal-police-shooting-ryan-whitaker/5459142002/

Nees, who is several feet away from Whitaker at this point, asks the officer if he could handcuff her so she could be near her boyfriend.

After the officer says no, she asks if Ferragamo could check if Whitaker was OK.

"I'm leaning toward the fact that he's not," Ferragamo responds.

According to the police report, Cooke later that night told detectives that he shot Whitaker because he feared for his life. Ferragamo later tells another officer at the scene that he would have done the same, but didn't because Cooke did, according to the video footage and the police report.

Bastards. Cowardly, cowardly bastards.

If I were on a jury, that one is really a tough one to call IMO. What is great about this particular video though, is that you can immediately take racism off the table. Finally, no fucking racism to blabber about!!!

I can understand why the police shot a guy with gun at the door. But I can also understand why a guy would show up at a door with a gun in a bad neighborhood.

Sometimes getting shot by a cop is simply being at the wrong place at the wrong time.
 

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According to this, Portland police have decided to just give up and let the Proud Boys handle keeping protests civil. Top picture in the article is of a Proud Boy with a gun, and crosses on his body armor.

If it was truly willing participants I would agree with them. I strongly suspect the protesters were considered "willing" by simply being there, though.
 

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Worldtraveller's link with title: A Black Vice Mayor In Virginia Urged A Police Chief's Firing. Now She Faces Charges. | HuffPost
A mounting political and racial controversy stemming from the destruction of a Confederate monument in Portsmouth, Virginia, intensified this week after a white city resident brought criminal charges against the city’s Black vice mayor.

The resident, Tommy Dubois, alleged that Vice Mayor Lisa Lucas-Burke’s public call for the firing of the city’s police chief constituted a misdemeanor crime under an obscure city statute. Dubois appears to have gotten the idea to press the charges from a Facebook group.

Portland police allow Proud Boys and antifascists to spar with guns in the crowd - The Washington Post -- this seems like the Weimar Republic all over again.
On Saturday afternoon, a large crowd of more than 100 far-right activists, including Proud Boys and armed militia members, descended on Portland, Ore., staging a “Back the Blue” rally in front of the Justice Center that houses the downtown police precinct. Hundreds of antifa and Black Lives Matter protesters gathered to oppose the far-right crowd.

People in the far-right crowd came armed with paintball guns, metal rods, aluminum bats, fireworks, pepper spray, rifles and handguns. Some people in the opposing left-leaning crowd brought rocks, fireworks and bottles filled with chemical solutions. Both crowds sported shields and helmets.

The two groups sparred for more than two hours, as people exchanged blows, fired paintballs at each other and blasted chemicals indiscriminately into the crowd. People lobbed fireworks back and forth. At least one person was hit in the abdomen with a device that flashed and exploded, causing bleeding.
 

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You misspelled 'guillotine'. ;)

I've heard a few people remark about guillotines and it seems to miss the point.

Joseph-Ignace Guillotin's advocacy for the device was prompted by a desire for a more humane means of execution.

I think the desire here, though, is to send a message rather than simply carry out an execution in a painless manner - in which case breaking upon the wheel or hanging by chains in a gibbet are probably more effective.
 

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You misspelled 'guillotine'. ;)

I've heard a few people remark about guillotines and it seems to miss the point.

Joseph-Ignace Guillotin's advocacy for the device was prompted by a desire for a more humane means of execution.

I think the desire here, though, is to send a message rather than simply carry out an execution in a painless manner - in which case breaking upon the wheel or hanging by chains in a gibbet are probably more effective.

I think the key point is "execution," specifically the execution of ruling elites by the people.
 

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If a lot of policing seems to have a Weimar-Republic quality, much softer on the Right than on the Left, here is some evidence:

White supremacists and militias have infiltrated police across US, report says | US news | The Guardian - "A former FBI agent has documented links between serving officers and racist militant activities in more than a dozen states"
White supremacist groups have infiltrated US law enforcement agencies in every region of the country over the last two decades, according to a new report about the ties between police and far-right vigilante groups.

In a timely new analysis, Michael German, a former FBI special agent who has written extensively on the ways that US law enforcement have failed to respond to far-right domestic terror threats, concludes that US law enforcement officials have been tied to racist militant activities in more than a dozen states since 2000, and hundreds of police officers have been caught posting racist and bigoted social media content.
States like AL, CA, CT, FL, IL, LA, MI, NE, OK, OR, TX, VA, WA, WV

Hidden in Plain Sight: Racism, White Supremacy, and Far-Right Militancy in Law Enforcement | Brennan Center for Justice - "The government’s response to known connections of law enforcement officers to violent racist and militant groups has been strikingly insufficient."
 

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And by 'infiltrated', they mean the police departments are knowingly, openly hiring white supremacists.

Seriously, we're well past 'infiltrated' in the US. That may be british understatement, but the media is failing us badly on this topic.
 

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Hi everyone. Yet another reminder, cops are bastards. All of them.

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R49P9TuFLOQ&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR1EGnIdWPPZawoS6ufGYxYHUDxZEfpjpI2wK5-3h25tpfJq6JVpD-4u4l0[/YOUTUBE]

Here's an article:

https://www.azcentral.com/story/new...tal-police-shooting-ryan-whitaker/5459142002/

Nees, who is several feet away from Whitaker at this point, asks the officer if he could handcuff her so she could be near her boyfriend.

After the officer says no, she asks if Ferragamo could check if Whitaker was OK.

"I'm leaning toward the fact that he's not," Ferragamo responds.

According to the police report, Cooke later that night told detectives that he shot Whitaker because he feared for his life. Ferragamo later tells another officer at the scene that he would have done the same, but didn't because Cooke did, according to the video footage and the police report.

Bastards. Cowardly, cowardly bastards.

If I were on a jury, that one is really a tough one to call IMO. What is great about this particular video though, is that you can immediately take racism off the table. Finally, no fucking racism to blabber about!!!

I can understand why the police shot a guy with gun at the door. But I can also understand why a guy would show up at a door with a gun in a bad neighborhood.

Sometimes getting shot by a cop is simply being at the wrong place at the wrong time.

The fact that cops can make so many wrong places and wrong times doesn't bother you?
 

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Virginia Cop Arrested, Charged For Allegedly Beating 6-Month-Old Baby to Death

Fairfax, VA — A Fairfax County Police officer turned himself in to authorities this week and was arrested after being charged with multiple counts of child abuse involving the death of his 6-month-old daughter.

According to the State’s Attorney for Frederick County, officer Jason Colley, 38, was indicted on August 24, 2018 and charged with First Degree Child Abuse — Death, First Degree Child Abuse — Sever Physical Injury, and First Degree Assault. The charges are a result of investigation by the Maryland State Police into injuries sustained by his infant daughter, Harper Colley, on September 19, 2017, which resulted in her death.
 

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NYPD union accused of minting racist challenge coins about hunting black people

he American people’s faith in law enforcement has been deeply and likely irreparably damaged by the events of the past year. When protests sprang up over the killing of unarmed Black Americans at the hands of police, cops in cities across the country, with the urging of the president, responded with overwhelming brutal force, tear-gassing innocent civilians on numerous occasions, beating them, siccing dogs on them, and even ramming into them with vehicles in some cases.

The New York City Police Department’s actions proved especially egregious and numerous clips of disturbingly violent police behavior went viral in the weeks following the killing of George Floyd. After such a string of incidents, one might imagine the NYPD would be eager to rehabilitate its image but a new report from The Gothamist indicates no such eagerness. The NYPD has come out in defense of a clearly racist “challenge coin” from 2017 that refers to East Flatbush as “Fort Jah.”

The coin was created by the Police Benevolent Association and sold in the 67th Precinct headquarters. Four other coins have also been found online bearing the markings of the precinct in question along with the “Fort Jah” phrase. One of them bears the image of two white cops hunting a Black man alongside a Hemingway quote about the “hunting” of men. Another image shows a skull with dreadlocks, clearly an attempt to otherize and dehumanize members of the West Indian communities in East Flatbush.

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Breonna Taylor smeared as a drug dealer by Kentucky prosecutors in ex-boyfriend’s plea deal

Vice News correspondent Roberto Aram Ferdman posted the shocking information about how prosecutors in Kentucky tried to leverage a plea deal for the ex-boyfriend of Breonna Taylor into an excuse to exonerate her police officer murderers of any responsibility for their no-knock home invasion that resulted in the young Black emergency medical technician’s death.

[TWEET]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On Tuesday, we were told Breonna Taylor’s ex-boyfriend Jamarcus Glover was offered a plea deal, which would have required him to say that Taylor was part of his drug operation. Just now, the family’s attorney shared a picture of a plea deal that appears to show it is true <a href="https://t.co/E9nsWQLKrb">pic.twitter.com/E9nsWQLKrb</a></p>— Roberto Aram Ferdman (@robferdman) <a href="https://twitter.com/robferdman/status/1300474368120819713?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 31, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/TWEET]

This shameless attempt at retroactive victim-blaming to prevent the prosecution of the police officers involved is one of the most despicable prosecutorial maneuvers imaginable in these times when so much of the country has been outraged by police brutality and abuse of power, joining Black Lives Matters protests in record numbers.
 

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Virginia Cop Arrested, Charged For Allegedly Beating 6-Month-Old Baby to Death

Fairfax, VA — A Fairfax County Police officer turned himself in to authorities this week and was arrested after being charged with multiple counts of child abuse involving the death of his 6-month-old daughter.

According to the State’s Attorney for Frederick County, officer Jason Colley, 38, was indicted on August 24, 2018 and charged with First Degree Child Abuse — Death, First Degree Child Abuse — Sever Physical Injury, and First Degree Assault. The charges are a result of investigation by the Maryland State Police into injuries sustained by his infant daughter, Harper Colley, on September 19, 2017, which resulted in her death.
He feared for his life. That baby had a pacifier, which could be used as a weapon.
 

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Breonna Taylor smeared as a drug dealer by Kentucky prosecutors in ex-boyfriend’s plea deal

Vice News correspondent Roberto Aram Ferdman posted the shocking information about how prosecutors in Kentucky tried to leverage a plea deal for the ex-boyfriend of Breonna Taylor into an excuse to exonerate her police officer murderers of any responsibility for their no-knock home invasion that resulted in the young Black emergency medical technician’s death.

[TWEET]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On Tuesday, we were told Breonna Taylor’s ex-boyfriend Jamarcus Glover was offered a plea deal, which would have required him to say that Taylor was part of his drug operation. Just now, the family’s attorney shared a picture of a plea deal that appears to show it is true <a href="https://t.co/E9nsWQLKrb">pic.twitter.com/E9nsWQLKrb</a></p>— Roberto Aram Ferdman (@robferdman) <a href="https://twitter.com/robferdman/status/1300474368120819713?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 31, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/TWEET]

This shameless attempt at retroactive victim-blaming to prevent the prosecution of the police officers involved is one of the most despicable prosecutorial maneuvers imaginable in these times when so much of the country has been outraged by police brutality and abuse of power, joining Black Lives Matters protests in record numbers.
This continues to show that the DA's and judges are a big part of the ongoing problem.
 

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Viedo shows Sacremento Police kicking a suspect in the back while he stands in complete compliance

a Sacramento County Sheriff’s deputy using his knee to kick a Black man in the back during an arrest while the suspect is seemingly standing in complete compliance. Although the incident occured in March 2020, it was recently shared by by NFL Hall of Famer Shannon Sharpe on Twitter. Doing so has brought about a fresh wave of criticism about police brutality and the officer is now facing national scrutiny.

Sharpe, who tweeted the video on Friday, called out the deputy for the excessive use of force saying ironically, “I thought all you had to do was comply and you wouldn’t be shot or brutalized by police,” he wrote.

To make things even worse, the Sacramento County Sheriff’s Office revealed that the situation was the result of a case of mistaken identity. According to CBS Sacramento, the man in the video matched the description of a suspect who was wanted on a felony arrest warrant. After conducting surveillance and attempting to arrest him, Sgt. Tess Deterding, the spokesperson, claimed to the news station that the man wouldn’t follow orders to get on the ground. The man was ultimately charged with resisting arrest
 

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I had seen that before. The cops definitely escalated that situation.
 

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Video: Rochester police put hood on Black man, pinned him before asphyxiation death

In this image taken from police body camera video provided by Roth and Roth LLP, a Rochester police officer puts a hood over the head of Daniel Prude, on March 23, 2020, in Rochester, N.Y. Video of Prude, a Black man who had run naked through the streets of the western New York city, died of asphyxiation after a group of police officers put a hood over his head, then pressed his face into the pavement for two minutes, according to video and records released Wednesday, Sept. 2, 2020, by the man's family. Prude died March 30 after he was taken off life support, seven days after the encounter with police in Rochester. (Rochester Police via Roth and Roth LLP via AP)AP
 

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Video: Rochester police put hood on Black man, pinned him before asphyxiation death

In this image taken from police body camera video provided by Roth and Roth LLP, a Rochester police officer puts a hood over the head of Daniel Prude, on March 23, 2020, in Rochester, N.Y. Video of Prude, a Black man who had run naked through the streets of the western New York city, died of asphyxiation after a group of police officers put a hood over his head, then pressed his face into the pavement for two minutes, according to video and records released Wednesday, Sept. 2, 2020, by the man's family. Prude died March 30 after he was taken off life support, seven days after the encounter with police in Rochester. (Rochester Police via Roth and Roth LLP via AP)AP

According to the man's family, we aren't getting an independent evaluation. Even if they were pressing so hard to cut off breathing (which it doesn't look like, note that the head is not twisted like with George Floyd), two minutes shouldn't be enough to fry his brain. I strongly suspect this is an excited delirium death.
 

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Video: Rochester police put hood on Black man, pinned him before asphyxiation death

In this image taken from police body camera video provided by Roth and Roth LLP, a Rochester police officer puts a hood over the head of Daniel Prude, on March 23, 2020, in Rochester, N.Y. Video of Prude, a Black man who had run naked through the streets of the western New York city, died of asphyxiation after a group of police officers put a hood over his head, then pressed his face into the pavement for two minutes, according to video and records released Wednesday, Sept. 2, 2020, by the man's family. Prude died March 30 after he was taken off life support, seven days after the encounter with police in Rochester. (Rochester Police via Roth and Roth LLP via AP)AP

According to the man's family, we aren't getting an independent evaluation. Even if they were pressing so hard to cut off breathing (which it doesn't look like, note that the head is not twisted like with George Floyd), two minutes shouldn't be enough to fry his brain. I strongly suspect this is an excited delirium death.

Are you saying if he had never encountered the police, he would have just dropped dead on the sidewalk at the same moment anyway?
 

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Are you saying if he had never encountered the police, he would have just dropped dead on the sidewalk at the same moment anyway?
He was on PCP, so yes, there was a decent chance of dropping dead even without the fight with the police.
 

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According to the man's family, we aren't getting an independent evaluation. Even if they were pressing so hard to cut off breathing (which it doesn't look like, note that the head is not twisted like with George Floyd), two minutes shouldn't be enough to fry his brain. I strongly suspect this is an excited delirium death.

Are you saying if he had never encountered the police, he would have just dropped dead on the sidewalk at the same moment anyway?

We don't know, we don't have good data on what happens in these cases. What appears to happen is the body is put way into overdrive (note the nudity--this is a common hallmark of such cases. The body is in overdrive, they overheat and they strip off clothes to cool down) and then when the come back down the system swings too far in the other direction and the body shuts down--they die without apparent cause. In the old days it was figured they died of the beating they got with nightsticks in an effort to subdue them but as we have captured more of them without the heavy use of force it looks like sometimes they simply die.

Note, also, that simply being arrested could have aggravated the problem. The stress would have pushed an already-overstressed system even further, thus increasing the chance of a lethal rebound.
 

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According to the man's family, we aren't getting an independent evaluation. Even if they were pressing so hard to cut off breathing (which it doesn't look like, note that the head is not twisted like with George Floyd), two minutes shouldn't be enough to fry his brain. I strongly suspect this is an excited delirium death.

Are you saying if he had never encountered the police, he would have just dropped dead on the sidewalk at the same moment anyway?

We don't know, we don't have good data on what happens in these cases. What appears to happen is the body is put way into overdrive (note the nudity--this is a common hallmark of such cases. The body is in overdrive, they overheat and they strip off clothes to cool down) and then when the come back down the system swings too far in the other direction and the body shuts down--they die without apparent cause. In the old days it was figured they died of the beating they got with nightsticks in an effort to subdue them but as we have captured more of them without the heavy use of force it looks like sometimes they simply die.

Note, also, that simply being arrested could have aggravated the problem. The stress would have pushed an already-overstressed system even further, thus increasing the chance of a lethal rebound.


Or it could have been the arrest itself caused a death.
 

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Kenneth Walker says initial charge ‘meant to silence’ him and ’cover up Breonna’s murder’
The boyfriend of Breonna Taylor addressed a gathering of media Tuesday, hours after he filed a lawsuit against LMPD and others, alleging police misconduct the night of the raid that left Taylor dead in the hallway of her apartment.

Narcotics officers used a battering ram to break into Taylor’s apartment on March 13, causing Kenneth Walker, a legal gun owner, to fire what he would later call a warning shot, prompting a return volley of gunfire from the officers. Taylor was shot five times.

Walker was initially charged with attempted murder of a police officer, but Jefferson County Commonwealth Attorney Tom Wine dropped that charge in May.

Walker, 28, said in downtown Louisville on Tuesday that that charge was “meant to silence me and cover-up Breonna’s murder.”

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In the lawsuit, Walker seeks unspecified monetary damages from LMPD, as well as the City of Louisville, for assault, battery, false arrest and imprisonment, malicious prosecution, and several other claims.

When Wine dropped the attempted-murder charge against Walker in May, he did so “without prejudice,” meaning the county could charge him again in the future. Walker’s lawsuit seeks to prevent that from happening, citing Kentucky’s “stand your ground” law.

The lawsuit also claims LMPD “threatened Kenny’s life, illegally detained Kenny, interrogated him under false pretenses, ignored his account as corroborated by neighbors, and arrested and jailed Kenny.”
 

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Breonna Taylor's boyfriend files civil complaint against Louisville police and city
Kenneth Walker "has already sustained life-long trauma, still fears harm from those who consider him a danger and seek to take away his freedom again," according to a complaint filed by his lawyer, Steve Romines, in Jefferson County District Court.

Louisville police Sgt. Lamont Washington told NBC News they do not comment on pending litigation.

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"But as the mayor has said, Breonna Taylor's death was a tragedy, and justice, peace and healing are what is needed for her, for her loved ones and for our community."

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"They refused to answer when we yelled, 'Who is it?'" Walker told reporters Tuesday on the courthouse steps. "Fifteen minutes later, Breonna was dead from a hail of police gunfire and I was in police custody."

Romines said the defendants have to be held liable for the botched raid.

"They said there's drugs there. There's no drugs there. They said there's money there. There's no money there," Romines said.

"Everything that they said about this was false. And yet they (said) 'Well no harm, no foul.' No. There has to be consequences."
 

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Utah police shot a 13-year-old autistic boy after his mother called 911 for help

When Golda Barton dialed 911 on Friday, she hoped emergency responders could help hospitalize her 13-year-old son, who has Asperger syndrome and was having a mental crisis.

Instead, a Salt Lake City police officer repeatedly shot Linden Cameron after he ran away, leaving the boy in serious condition with injuries to his intestines, bladder, shoulder and ankles. Barton says he was unarmed, and police said they didn’t find a weapon at the scene.

“He’s a small child. Why didn’t you just tackle him?” Barton said in a tearful interview with KUTV on Sunday. “He’s a baby. He has mental issues.”

Barton said she’s gotten few answers from police. Salt Lake City’s mayor pledged on Sunday that an investigation into the incident would be quick.

“No matter the circumstances, what happened on Friday night is a tragedy, and I expect this investigation to be handled swiftly and transparently for the sake of everyone involved,” Mayor Erin Mendenhall (D) said in a statement to the Salt Lake Tribune.

Local autism advocates also decried the shooting and called for changes to how police respond to mental health crises.

“Police were called because help was needed but instead more harm was done when officers from the SLPD expected a 13-year-old experiencing a mental health episode to act calmer and collected than adult trained officers,” Neurodiverse Utah said in a statement.

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Utah police shot a 13-year-old autistic boy after his mother called 911 for help

When Golda Barton dialed 911 on Friday, she hoped emergency responders could help hospitalize her 13-year-old son, who has Asperger syndrome and was having a mental crisis.

Instead, a Salt Lake City police officer repeatedly shot Linden Cameron after he ran away, leaving the boy in serious condition with injuries to his intestines, bladder, shoulder and ankles. Barton says he was unarmed, and police said they didn’t find a weapon at the scene.

“He’s a small child. Why didn’t you just tackle him?” Barton said in a tearful interview with KUTV on Sunday. “He’s a baby. He has mental issues.”

Barton said she’s gotten few answers from police. Salt Lake City’s mayor pledged on Sunday that an investigation into the incident would be quick.

“No matter the circumstances, what happened on Friday night is a tragedy, and I expect this investigation to be handled swiftly and transparently for the sake of everyone involved,” Mayor Erin Mendenhall (D) said in a statement to the Salt Lake Tribune.

Local autism advocates also decried the shooting and called for changes to how police respond to mental health crises.

“Police were called because help was needed but instead more harm was done when officers from the SLPD expected a 13-year-old experiencing a mental health episode to act calmer and collected than adult trained officers,” Neurodiverse Utah said in a statement.

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Utah police shot a 13-year-old autistic boy after his mother called 911 for help

When Golda Barton dialed 911 on Friday, she hoped emergency responders could help hospitalize her 13-year-old son, who has Asperger syndrome and was having a mental crisis.

Instead, a Salt Lake City police officer repeatedly shot Linden Cameron after he ran away, leaving the boy in serious condition with injuries to his intestines, bladder, shoulder and ankles. Barton says he was unarmed, and police said they didn’t find a weapon at the scene.

“He’s a small child. Why didn’t you just tackle him?” Barton said in a tearful interview with KUTV on Sunday. “He’s a baby. He has mental issues.”

Barton said she’s gotten few answers from police. Salt Lake City’s mayor pledged on Sunday that an investigation into the incident would be quick.

“No matter the circumstances, what happened on Friday night is a tragedy, and I expect this investigation to be handled swiftly and transparently for the sake of everyone involved,” Mayor Erin Mendenhall (D) said in a statement to the Salt Lake Tribune.

Local autism advocates also decried the shooting and called for changes to how police respond to mental health crises.

“Police were called because help was needed but instead more harm was done when officers from the SLPD expected a 13-year-old experiencing a mental health episode to act calmer and collected than adult trained officers,” Neurodiverse Utah said in a statement.

Idiots.


This is what the police are trained to do. They are taught to use lethal force for any situation they cannot fully understand or control. They are taught that their authority is absolute, and any situation where this authority cannot be fully enforced is a situation where lethal force is justified. What a waste!
 

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Utah police shot a 13-year-old autistic boy after his mother called 911 for help

When Golda Barton dialed 911 on Friday, she hoped emergency responders could help hospitalize her 13-year-old son, who has Asperger syndrome and was having a mental crisis.

Instead, a Salt Lake City police officer repeatedly shot Linden Cameron after he ran away, leaving the boy in serious condition with injuries to his intestines, bladder, shoulder and ankles. Barton says he was unarmed, and police said they didn’t find a weapon at the scene.

“He’s a small child. Why didn’t you just tackle him?” Barton said in a tearful interview with KUTV on Sunday. “He’s a baby. He has mental issues.”

Barton said she’s gotten few answers from police. Salt Lake City’s mayor pledged on Sunday that an investigation into the incident would be quick.

“No matter the circumstances, what happened on Friday night is a tragedy, and I expect this investigation to be handled swiftly and transparently for the sake of everyone involved,” Mayor Erin Mendenhall (D) said in a statement to the Salt Lake Tribune.

Local autism advocates also decried the shooting and called for changes to how police respond to mental health crises.

“Police were called because help was needed but instead more harm was done when officers from the SLPD expected a 13-year-old experiencing a mental health episode to act calmer and collected than adult trained officers,” Neurodiverse Utah said in a statement.

Idiots.

Sorry, but they didn't shoot him for running away. I don't know what really happened but that's not it.
 

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Utah police shot a 13-year-old autistic boy after his mother called 911 for help

When Golda Barton dialed 911 on Friday, she hoped emergency responders could help hospitalize her 13-year-old son, who has Asperger syndrome and was having a mental crisis.

Instead, a Salt Lake City police officer repeatedly shot Linden Cameron after he ran away, leaving the boy in serious condition with injuries to his intestines, bladder, shoulder and ankles. Barton says he was unarmed, and police said they didn’t find a weapon at the scene.

“He’s a small child. Why didn’t you just tackle him?” Barton said in a tearful interview with KUTV on Sunday. “He’s a baby. He has mental issues.”

Barton said she’s gotten few answers from police. Salt Lake City’s mayor pledged on Sunday that an investigation into the incident would be quick.

“No matter the circumstances, what happened on Friday night is a tragedy, and I expect this investigation to be handled swiftly and transparently for the sake of everyone involved,” Mayor Erin Mendenhall (D) said in a statement to the Salt Lake Tribune.

Local autism advocates also decried the shooting and called for changes to how police respond to mental health crises.

“Police were called because help was needed but instead more harm was done when officers from the SLPD expected a 13-year-old experiencing a mental health episode to act calmer and collected than adult trained officers,” Neurodiverse Utah said in a statement.

Idiots.

Sorry, but they didn't shoot him for running away. I don't know what really happened but that's not it.

:rolleyes:
 

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Utah police shot a 13-year-old autistic boy after his mother called 911 for help

When Golda Barton dialed 911 on Friday, she hoped emergency responders could help hospitalize her 13-year-old son, who has Asperger syndrome and was having a mental crisis.

Instead, a Salt Lake City police officer repeatedly shot Linden Cameron after he ran away, leaving the boy in serious condition with injuries to his intestines, bladder, shoulder and ankles. Barton says he was unarmed, and police said they didn’t find a weapon at the scene.

“He’s a small child. Why didn’t you just tackle him?” Barton said in a tearful interview with KUTV on Sunday. “He’s a baby. He has mental issues.”

Barton said she’s gotten few answers from police. Salt Lake City’s mayor pledged on Sunday that an investigation into the incident would be quick.

“No matter the circumstances, what happened on Friday night is a tragedy, and I expect this investigation to be handled swiftly and transparently for the sake of everyone involved,” Mayor Erin Mendenhall (D) said in a statement to the Salt Lake Tribune.

Local autism advocates also decried the shooting and called for changes to how police respond to mental health crises.

“Police were called because help was needed but instead more harm was done when officers from the SLPD expected a 13-year-old experiencing a mental health episode to act calmer and collected than adult trained officers,” Neurodiverse Utah said in a statement.

Idiots.


This is what the police are trained to do. They are taught to use lethal force for any situation they cannot fully understand or control. They are taught that their authority is absolute, and any situation where this authority cannot be fully enforced is a situation where lethal force is justified...

No. That's not how police are trained.
 
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