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[Trausti]

Three Protesters’ Death Sentence is Confirmed

A drug addict with a long criminal history, including assault on a pregnant woman, dies while resisting arrest; the Western world riots. Three men - who are actually oppressed - are sentenced to die for wanting a fraction of the freedom enjoyed by those in the West.

Silence.

 

[repoman]

what are you expecting from Iran?


To me this is redlining to almost summary execution.

But the apt comparison is Portland over the past month and half.

Oh, when prosecutors drop charges against the Portland protestors and rioters for things that outside of these events would get charges.... can they legally undrop the same charges?

 

[Angry Floof]

Imagine if that happened in the U.S. No Republican would stand up for what's right. They'd be the ones issuing the death sentences. And one particular Republican I know, I won't mention names, we'll just call him Schmausti, would not only not defend them but would waste his executive functions thinking up justifications for killing them.

 

[Politesse]

Three Protesters’ Death Sentence is Confirmed

A drug addict with a long criminal history, including assault on a pregnant woman, dies while resisting arrest; the Western world riots. Three men - who are actually oppressed - are sentenced to die for wanting a fraction of the freedom enjoyed by those in the West.

Silence.

So you feel it should be illegal to deport Iranian refugees back to Iran when they flee to the West, since they are likely to face political persecution if forced to return? I agree, and would absolutely extend that to refugees from Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, and many other places. Trump/Obama/Bush committed great evil in trying to restrict immigration prejudicially from Muslim nations.

Out of curiosity, do you donate to Amnesty International, who is in fact pressing for justice in this very matter, hence why you heard about it at all? Or are you a hypocrite?

I'm always a bit baffled by people who cite a meme that has been shared by millions of people as proof that "no one is talking about" something, but in this case, you definitely could have done something to help materially prevent this outcome, and didn't.

 

[SimpleDon]

Three Protesters’ Death Sentence is Confirmed

A drug addict with a long criminal history, including assault on a pregnant woman, dies while resisting arrest; the Western world riots. Three men - who are actually oppressed - are sentenced to die for wanting a fraction of the freedom enjoyed by those in the West.

Silence.

Are you objecting to a far right-wing theocratic government that seems to be incapable of governing competently? A government that was incapable of responding to the pandemic, commending thousands to a needless death?

Or perhaps you are objecting to the use of the death penalty?

Or perhaps you believe that the Trump administration should be doing more to free these three? Say by offering them humanitarian asylum in the US?

It would help us if you could detail what you have done to protest these unjust arrests and torture by the police.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Trausti: Make Islam Great Again.

 

[laughing dog]

Another pointless "whataboutism" gotcha OP. Apparently if one does not protest every injustice everywhere, one is a hypocrite.

 

[Derec]

A drug addict with a long criminal history, including assault on a pregnant woman, dies while resisting arrest; the Western world riots.

Indeed. I do not see why people pretend that George Floyd is some sort of hero. Dying while being restrained high as a kite on fentanyl and meth is not an accomplishment. Same goes for domestic abuser and drunk driver Rayshard Brooks. But next we will see statues of them being erected to replace unacceptable statues of people like Thomas Jefferson or Theodore Roosevelt.

 

[Derec]

what are you expecting from Iran?

Many on the Left like Iran because they have the same enemies - US and Israel.

 

[Derec]

So you feel it should be illegal to deport Iranian refugees back to Iran when they flee to the West, since they are likely to face political persecution if forced to return?

Depends on why they flee. If they are secular Iranians fleeing prosecution by the theocracy, yes, they should be welcomed in. If they are garden variety criminals fleeing just prosecution for crimes such as assault or robbery, for example, no. There should be no blanket open door policy!

I agree, and would absolutely extend that to refugees from Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, and many other places. Trump/Obama/Bush committed great evil in trying to restrict immigration prejudicially from Muslim nations.

Many people fleeing from those countries are economic migrants. Furthermore, many are hardcore Islamists that stick their women into bags. Why should any western countries let people like that in?

There should be no blanket ban on any country, but there should be more vetting especially from predominately Muslim countries. Look at Europe. They instituted open door policy in 2015 (Danke Merkel!) and a million of Syrians, Afghans, Pakistanis etc. came in, many of them Islamist and many of them criminal, resulting in crimes like these:
Germany migrant jailed for life for murdering Freiburg student
Germany: Migrant jailed for murdering ex-girlfriend, 15
Two separate cases, but both perps are Afghans. In addition, 99% of Afghans believe in Sharia law. So why should we take in more Afghans exactly?

I'm always a bit baffled by people who cite a meme that has been shared by millions of people as proof that "no one is talking about" something, but in this case, you definitely could have done something to help materially prevent this outcome, and didn't.

It is certainly not being talked about on mainstream media. They prefer to yak about how great a father and husband Rayshard Brooks was and similar nonsense.

 

[Derec]

Are you objecting to a far right-wing theocratic government that seems to be incapable of governing competently?

Iranian theocrats do not fit the western left-right spectrum very well. For example, many western Leftists like and support Iran and Marxist groups helped the Khomeini faction overthrow the Shah.
Left-wing UN ambassador in the Carter administration even called Khomeini a "saint".

 

[Arctish]

A drug addict with a long criminal history, including assault on a pregnant woman, dies while resisting arrest; the Western world riots.

Indeed. I do not see why people pretend that George Floyd is some sort of hero.

Ask yourself why.

You are the one pretending he was a hero to people.

And be honest with yourself when you give your answer. Why did you make Floyd a hero in your mind? Was it simply to mock people who pretend he was some kind of hero?

Dying while being restrained high as a kite on fentanyl and meth is not an accomplishment. Same goes for domestic abuser and drunk driver Rayshard Brooks. But next we will see statues of them being erected to replace unacceptable statues of people like Thomas Jefferson or Theodore Roosevelt.

And while you're at it, you should ask yourself whatever happened to 'innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law'? You used to adhere to that principle. When and why did you stop?

 

[Arctish]

what are you expecting from Iran?

Many on the Left like Iran because they have the same enemies - US and Israel.

That's like saying many on the Right like Iran and Israel because they're both militarized police states.

It sounds like it might be true but in the absence of data to back up that claim, it's just bullshit.

 

[laughing dog]

A drug addict with a long criminal history, including assault on a pregnant woman, dies while resisting arrest; the Western world riots.

Indeed. I do not see why people pretend that George Floyd is some sort of hero. Dying while being restrained high as a kite on fentanyl and meth is not an accomplishment. Same goes for domestic abuser and drunk driver Rayshard Brooks. But next we will see statues of them being erected to replace unacceptable statues of people like Thomas Jefferson or Theodore Roosevelt.

Please, get a grip on reality.

Mr. Floyd's extremely disturbing death at the hands of a group of callous police officers in a supposed bastion of human rights and democracywas captured on video for the world to see. It was heartening to see worldwide evidence of decency and humanity in the protests. Clearly it struck a sympathetic chord among so many people of different cultures around the world.