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Congratulations on your win GOP

...Never underestimate the ability of the Dems to lose elections and policy fights on which they have a major advantage on objective facts. Unless some amazing candidate they cannot pass on comes along, they will likely nominate Hilary mostly based upon their silly sense of seniority, party loyalty, and desire to make gender history rather than on who the best candidate is that can win in the general election. If Hilary is nominated, they could easily lose.

If Hillary runs against Jeb in the next election, I'm finding a 3rd Party. Because fuck those families.
 
Given all the wind Democrats have blown about the evils of obstructionism, I'm sure they will not use the filibuster and the veto to frustrate the will of the electorate.

Why, that would be hypocrisy.
 
Given all the wind Democrats have blown about the evils of obstructionism, I'm sure they will not use the filibuster and the veto to frustrate the will of the electorate.

Why, that would be hypocrisy.

You believe that the Republicans in Congress are really interested in "the will of the electorate"? I have a bridge to sell you.
 
They know if they impeach they will have to face Iron Joe Biden. Worse. Than. Stalin.
 
Gotta love The Onion: Republicans Poised To Retain Control Of Senate

WASHINGTON—With precincts reporting GOP victories in key midterm election races nationwide, Beltway sources confirmed Tuesday that the Republican Party is poised to retain its complete control of the U.S. Senate. “If current polling projections are accurate, it appears as if Republican lawmakers will hold on to power in the Senate chamber and will continue to steer the legislative agenda with little resistance,” political analyst Michael Barone told reporters, noting that the likely election results will preserve the GOP’s singular authority over the direction of the Senate, allowing Republicans to go on stymieing judicial appointments, derailing or neutering any legislation they oppose, and obstructing President Obama at every turn. “With the Senate still firmly under their control, Mitch McConnell and his Republican colleagues will persist in refusing to cede an inch of political leverage to their Democratic rivals and will continue blocking Democratic initiatives just as they have been. Yet again, the GOP is in prime position to carry on dictating the course of the upper house of Congress.” Barone went on to say that Republicans would finally relinquish control of the Senate only when Democrats captured the 100 seats they require to govern.
 
From the relative limited use of filibuster during the Bush years, I'm not convinced the Dems won't just let a lot of crap through.

If they do use it, anyone wanting to cry hypocrisy will have to substantiate that the filibuster is being used to simply obstruct for obstructions sake, and not because of actual concerns with the legislation on the table.


Does anyone think they will actually try to repeal ACA if it has a chance of succeeding? I'm thinking the insurance companies would argue against it. Instead I think they will try to make amendments to the law, to remove the portions the insurance companies don't like.
 
The Dems don't need to filibuster as long as Obama has the power of veto, correct?
 
The Dems don't need to filibuster as long as Obama has the power of veto, correct?

But they will. The GOP looks much better if they're continuously passing legislation that gets vetoed because they're making an attempt to govern but are stymied by Obama's intransigence and unwillingness to compromise. If they can't even get bills passed, then they look weak and ineffective and that puts them more at risk in the 2016 elections when there are more GOP seats at risk than there are Dem seats.
 
Impeachment is very unlikely.

The Clinton impeachment was payback for the Nixon impeachment. In 2007 Pelosi declared impeachment off the table. Obama is safe.
Nixon wasn't impeached.
Yeah. A minor little nitpick there.
Given all the wind Democrats have blown about the evils of obstructionism, I'm sure they will not use the filibuster and the veto to frustrate the will of the electorate.

Why, that would be hypocrisy.
Moore-Coulter for $1200 Alex.
 
Given all the wind Democrats have blown about the evils of obstructionism, I'm sure they will not use the filibuster and the veto to frustrate the will of the electorate.

Why, that would be hypocrisy.

You believe that the Republicans in Congress are really interested in "the will of the electorate"? I have a bridge to sell you.

This is in fact one of the fundamental pillars upon which we base representative democracy. I don't see how one could be a big government fanboy without believing this. Next you'll be talking to us about individual rights and showing up at Ron Paul meetings.
 
This is in fact one of the fundamental pillars upon which we base representative democracy. I don't see how one could be a big government fanboy without believing this. Next you'll be talking to us about individual rights and showing up at Ron Paul meetings.

Well, I do have a boot that fits nicely on my head and I've been looking for an opportunity to wear it ...
 
You believe that the Republicans in Congress are really interested in "the will of the electorate"? I have a bridge to sell you.
This is in fact one of the fundamental pillars upon which we base representative democracy.
True.
But that's not what Squirrel said.
You'd have to believe it's a fundamental pillar of the GOP's agenda. Otherwise, you're just talking perpendicular to the post you're almost responding to.
 
Ok, time for predictions on what the new congress will actually move on.

My predictions:
Impeach Obama - starts within the first month
Tax 'Relief' for the american people (who make more than $200,000) - at least one submitted within the first 4 months

There's no more reason for an impeachment vote now than before. It still won't get through the senate.
 
Wow. This has turned into a "How can we bash the Republican Senate thread." Let's remind ourselves that the current GOP didn't invent douchbaggery. It merely perfected it.
 
...Never underestimate the ability of the Dems to lose elections and policy fights on which they have a major advantage on objective facts. Unless some amazing candidate they cannot pass on comes along, they will likely nominate Hilary mostly based upon their silly sense of seniority, party loyalty, and desire to make gender history rather than on who the best candidate is that can win in the general election. If Hilary is nominated, they could easily lose.

If Hillary runs against Jeb in the next election, I'm finding a 3rd Party. Because fuck those families.

What, exactly, was the point of the whole War of Independence ruckus, if you were planning on giving the executive power to dynasties anyway? Whether it is the Roosevelts, the Kennedies, the Bushes, or the Clintons, how is it that more than one of each of these families was suited to hold executive power in the USA, but the houses of Hanover or Saxe-Coburg Gotha were not good enough for you?
 
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