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Randyjohnson

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I suspect both the democrats and the media of cheating to elect Joe Biden. Trump should keep fighting. If there's a chance that cheating is involved, Trump should fight it all the way. He should fight because of the principal.

Put yourself in Trump's shoes. If you were President and you believed you were cheated, would you want to concede? Of course not.

I want to believe there was no cheating and I hope there was no cheating. But I am suspicious. Cheating may have occurred and if it did, the people who are responsible must not succeed. I hope that Biden won fair and square and if he did win fair and square, he deserves to be our 46th President. But if he was elected immorally and cheating is allowed to prevail, America can kiss its democracy goodbye. Democracy will be a thing of the past.
 
The Title seems antithetical to the paragraphs...Clownstick shafting the system to stay in power would be the end of US democracy. The lie, the cheat, the fakery, the BS is from the alternate-reality crowd and Clownstick. But if you haven't figured that out after 4+ years...
 
Randyjohnson said:
I suspect both the democrats and the media of cheating to elect Joe Biden. Trump should keep fighting. If there's a chance that cheating is involved, Trump should fight it all the way. He should fight because of the principal.

Put yourself in Trump's shoes. If you were President and you believed you were cheated, would you want to concede? Of course not.

I want to believe there was no cheating and I hope there was no cheating. But I am suspicious. Cheating may have occurred and if it did, the people who are responsible must not succeed. I hope that Biden won fair and square and if he did win fair and square, he deserves to be our 46th President. But if he was elected immorally and cheating is allowed to prevail, America can kiss its democracy goodbye. Democracy will be a thing of the past.
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Crap! I had no idea. Could you please send us the proof of the cheating?
 
Harry Bosch said:
Randyjohnson said:
I suspect both the democrats and the media of cheating to elect Joe Biden. Trump should keep fighting. If there's a chance that cheating is involved, Trump should fight it all the way. He should fight because of the principal.

Put yourself in Trump's shoes. If you were President and you believed you were cheated, would you want to concede? Of course not.

I want to believe there was no cheating and I hope there was no cheating. But I am suspicious. Cheating may have occurred and if it did, the people who are responsible must not succeed. I hope that Biden won fair and square and if he did win fair and square, he deserves to be our 46th President. But if he was elected immorally and cheating is allowed to prevail, America can kiss its democracy goodbye. Democracy will be a thing of the past.
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Crap! I had no idea. Could you please send us the proof of the cheating?
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Tucker Carlson's dog ate the proof...
 
The only evidence of any cheating to steal the election is that Trump attempted and to some degree succeeded in disrupting the US mail service, and that his cult members engaged in the criminal act of intimidating voters by standing armed outside polling stations and terrorist armed threats of vote counters. Combine this with Trump telling his supporters not to use the mail system, because he was trying to dismantle it, and that his team had legal attempts to stop vote counting ready prior to election day and the result is that the only case the DOJ have basis to investigate is criminal charges against Trump. Then you have the fact that the outcome was closer in Trump's favor than any of the pre-election evidence predicted, which is consistent with Trump cheating, not the Dems.

Also, your notion that the media would conspire with the Dems is nonsensical. Trump is the best thing to happen to the media. He gives them non-stop fodder for ratings and profit. Plus, the media is run by billionaires whose wealth Trump has promised to protect while Biden has promised to raise their taxes and those of corporations (which all commercial media outlets are, btw).
 
Good Jesus Christ with a horse piss chaser. I am going to assume the OP is sincere, since I don't see any of the curlicues of a satirical style.

The assertions of Donald Trump should be heeded by no one, at any time. For the reason that you don't listen to pathological, conscience-free, malicious, self-serving LIARS.

Trump admirers are the last people on this earth to understand the story of the boy who cried wolf.
 
I suspect Republicans of whining that Trump lost. Get the fuck over it.
 
Randyjohnson said:
I suspect both the democrats and the media of cheating to elect Joe Biden. Trump should keep fighting. If there's a chance that cheating is involved, Trump should fight it all the way. He should fight because of the principal.
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The question is not whether there was cheating. Every election has some cheating and shenanigans, usually by both sides. There are always bad actors on both sides of our two huge coalition parties. The question is whether there was any cheating significant enough to change the outcome of the election. In that respect, Biden's lead is so substantial in enough states that the cheating would probably become obvious quickly. There are just too many ballots involved. All major news outlets have therefore called the election for Joe Biden, even Fox News. And Fox News would never have called the election for Joe Biden, if there were any chance that Trump could pull it out.

Put yourself in Trump's shoes. If you were President and you believed you were cheated, would you want to concede? Of course not.
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Nevertheless, both Al Gore and Hillary Clinton did concede, and not because they felt there was no cheating. They conceded, because they felt it was better for the country that they not undermine the legitimacy of our democratic election process. So they accepted the results. Of course, unlike Donald Trump, they were not worried about an end to their immunity from criminal prosecutions. Trump is facing some substantial lawsuits and criminal probes, not to mention hundreds of millions of dollars in debt coming due. The presidency would have protected him from that, so I can understand his desperation.

I want to believe there was no cheating and I hope there was no cheating. But I am suspicious. Cheating may have occurred and if it did, the people who are responsible must not succeed. I hope that Biden won fair and square and if he did win fair and square, he deserves to be our 46th President. But if he was elected immorally and cheating is allowed to prevail, America can kiss its democracy goodbye. Democracy will be a thing of the past.
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If there was significant cheating by the Biden campaign, the current administration would have discovered it by now and produced evidence. Instead, they have produced a lot of nuisance lawsuits, none of which have any evidence that would overturn a single election result in any state. I hope that you can bring yourself to accept Biden as president-elect, if he wins the electoral vote in December, as he should do by law. Trump's strategy will likely be to challenge certifications in states where he thinks the Republican legislatures would be willing to throw out the popular vote count and simply assign the state's electors outright to Donald Trump. I doubt that any state government would dare to do that, but Trump is a very desperate man.
 
Randyjohnson said:
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Put yourself in Trump's shoes. If you were President and you believed you were cheated, would you want to concede? Of course not.
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Trump is presently non compos mentis. The simple truth of the matter is that he is now, as ever, incapable of admitting to having lost at anything, let alone conceding.
 
Randyjohnson said:
I suspect both the democrats and the media of cheating to elect Joe Biden. Trump should keep fighting. If there's a chance that cheating is involved, Trump should fight it all the way. He should fight because of the principal.

Put yourself in Trump's shoes. If you were President and you believed you were cheated, would you want to concede? Of course not.

I want to believe there was no cheating and I hope there was no cheating. But I am suspicious. Cheating may have occurred and if it did, the people who are responsible must not succeed. I hope that Biden won fair and square and if he did win fair and square, he deserves to be our 46th President. But if he was elected immorally and cheating is allowed to prevail, America can kiss its democracy goodbye. Democracy will be a thing of the past.
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If you have evidence of fraud or cheating, fucking show it. This shit is in courts as we speak and judges are throwing this nonsense out left and right because NO EVIDENCE. So if you have some, you'd better get it to Trump's lawyers now.

Why is this rocket science?

And how is it that you've seen the last four years happen and NOW you're concerned about democracy being undermined?
 
Let's list the ways republicans have been cheating:

Removing eligible voters from the rolls (several differant methods involved in this category)

Closing polling places in predominantly minority districts causing hours long waits

Gerrymandering districts

Illegal disinformation campaigns that mail-in ballots will be used for debt collection and criminal warrant service

And this year we get a new one, Illegally delaying mail in ballots.

Anyone have a list anywhere near this much that democrats do.

Anyone...

Bueller...

Bueller...
 
Randyjohnson said:
I suspect both the democrats and the media of cheating to elect Joe Biden.
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I really gotta ask why you think so? Is it because after watching the GOP hamstring the postal service, weaponize the pandemic, gut voter rights, change ID laws, limit drop offs, create false drop offs, attempt to prove voter fraud by committing voter fraud, after all that, the fucking assholes STILL LOST? Are you seeing that as the best explanation for democrat frsud?
 
Keith&Co. said:
Randyjohnson said:
I suspect both the democrats and the media of cheating to elect Joe Biden.
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I really gotta ask why you think so? Is it because after watching the GOP hamstring the postal service, weaponize the pandemic, gut voter rights, change ID laws, limit drop offs, create false drop offs, attempt to prove voter fraud by committing voter fraud, after all that, the fucking assholes STILL LOST? Are you seeing that as the best explanation for democrat frsud?
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“There is no way they could have overcome all the obstacles we deliberately put in their way to make them lose, so they must have cheated.”
 
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Plenty of voter suppression, though! Blatant and shameless, probably because the GOP didn't think Trump would lose and they could continue on their trajectory of subsuming our democracy to their end times Nazi cult unabated and unaccountable.
 
Randy, if Trump was cheating (win or lose) would you be just as eager to find that out? What if both were cheating?

Is it only if Biden cheated, and Biden wins, that you care? Everything else you would overlook?
 
Brian63 said:
Randy, if Trump was cheating (win or lose) would you be just as eager to find that out? What if both were cheating?

Is it only if Biden cheated, and Biden wins, that you care? Everything else you would overlook?
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Note that the only investigations of fraud are in states Trumpmis losing in. If a REAL patriot was fighting a REAL problem, they'd be svouring all 57 states.
 
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