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SC Judge Alito's Speech or How Did This Moron Become A Judge?

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These are some of the most idiotic arguments about free speech I've ever heard from someone who's supposed to be smart.

Even before the pandemic, there was growing hostility to the expression of unfashionable views. And that too, was the surprising development. Here's a marker in 1972, the comedian George Carlin began to perform a routine called the seven words you can't say on TV. Today, you can see shows on your TV screen in which the dialog appears at time to consist almost entirely of those words. Carlin's list seems like a quaint relic, but it would be easy to put together a new list called things you can't say if you're a student or professor at a college or university or an employee of many big corporations. And there wouldn't be just seven items on that list. 70 times seven would be closer to the mark. I won't go down the list, but I'll mention one that I've discussed in a published opinion. You can't say that marriage is the union between one man and one woman. Until very recently, that's what the vast majority of Americans thought. Now it's considered bigotry.

That this would happen after our decision in Obergefell should not have come as a surprise. Yes, the opinion of the court included words meant to calm the fears of those who claim to traditional views on marriage. But I could say and so did the other justices in dissent, where the decision would lead wrote the following. I assume that those who claim to old beliefs will be able able to whisper their thoughts in the recesses of their homes. But if they repeat those of us in public, they will risk being labeled as bigots, and treated as such by governments, employers, and schools. That is just what is coming to pass. One of the great challenges for the Supreme Court going forward will be to protect freedom of speech. Although that freedom is falling out of favor in some circles, we need to do whatever we can to prevent it from becoming a second tier constitutional right.

There's a whole lot more crazy in that speech but the above is what's catching most peoples eye.
 
How is it that a fucking Justice does not understand what "Freedom of Speech" means in the US??? No one has been jailed or had their stuff taken or been kidnapped by the state, etc., for hating LGBTQ people. Fuck those stunted, unaware zealots and the idiot justices who are apparently just like them when they damn well should be head and shoulders better.

The rest of us ARE FREE to call out bigotry. They don't have a constitutional right to demand the rest of us appease them or make them comfortable with their hateful world view. There is nothing rational or civil about basing your ideology in hating people, and you damn well deserve disrespect and ridicule, if that's what it takes for you to have the wherewithal to examine your own beliefs like a fucking grownup.
 
This should have come with a warning, so many on here will get triggered.
 
Poor Justice Alito. I almost feel sorry for him. I think I would feel sorry for him if he was not a Supreme Court Justice.
 
This should have come with a warning, so many on here will get triggered.

It isn't that someone said it. It's that a defense of bigotry was coming from a SCOTUS judge.

Suppose he were defending the opinion that "Women should be barefoot and pregnant." or "Niggers just aren't smart enough to vote." or "Hitler was just misunderstood." People in the USA are free to hold those opinions as well.

But expressing them will have consequences.
Tom
 
This should have come with a warning, so many on here will get triggered.

Look, we know that "oWn tEh LiBeRtRds" is the only "principle" of trumpity right wing authoritarian followers. We know you don't actually have anything else. You don't have to keep proving it a zillion times a day here.
 
It isn't that someone said it. It's that a defense of bigotry was coming from a SCOTUS judge.

I barely read the OP, maybe there is more to it but all I saw was in reference to free speech. I didn't see any defense of bigotry. But on here, unless you think a particular way, you are a bigot of some sort.

Suppose he were defending the opinion that "Women should be barefoot and pregnant." or "Niggers just aren't smart enough to vote." or "Hitler was just misunderstood." People in the USA are free to hold those opinions as well. But expressing them will have consequences.

Not from the state I would hope.
 
But on here, unless you think a particular way, you are a bigot of some sort.
Yeah, that's the ticket! ;)

Not from the state I would hope.
Look at the big brains on TSwizzle! He knows that "free speech" refers to what the government can't do to you, not what other citizens must be forced to do to accomodate, respect, or listen to depraved world views. :thumbsup:
 
But on here, unless you think a particular way, you are a bigot of some sort.
Yeah, that's the ticket! ;)

Not from the state I would hope.
Look at the big brains on TSwizzle! He knows that "free speech" refers to what the government can't do to you, not what other citizens must be forced to do to accomodate, respect, or listen to depraved world views. :thumbsup:
Then apparently he knows better than a Supreme Court justice.
 
[YOUTUBE]https://youtu.be/tYLZL4GZVbA?t=940[/YOUTUBE]
Start at 15:40 if it doesn't start there automatically

Transcript here

These are some of the most idiotic arguments about free speech I've ever heard from someone who's supposed to be smart.

Even before the pandemic, there was growing hostility to the expression of unfashionable views. And that too, was the surprising development. Here's a marker in 1972, the comedian George Carlin began to perform a routine called the seven words you can't say on TV. Today, you can see shows on your TV screen in which the dialog appears at time to consist almost entirely of those words. Carlin's list seems like a quaint relic, but it would be easy to put together a new list called things you can't say if you're a student or professor at a college or university or an employee of many big corporations. And there wouldn't be just seven items on that list. 70 times seven would be closer to the mark. I won't go down the list, but I'll mention one that I've discussed in a published opinion. You can't say that marriage is the union between one man and one woman. Until very recently, that's what the vast majority of Americans thought. Now it's considered bigotry.

That this would happen after our decision in Obergefell should not have come as a surprise. Yes, the opinion of the court included words meant to calm the fears of those who claim to traditional views on marriage. But I could say and so did the other justices in dissent, where the decision would lead wrote the following. I assume that those who claim to old beliefs will be able able to whisper their thoughts in the recesses of their homes. But if they repeat those of us in public, they will risk being labeled as bigots, and treated as such by governments, employers, and schools. That is just what is coming to pass. One of the great challenges for the Supreme Court going forward will be to protect freedom of speech. Although that freedom is falling out of favor in some circles, we need to do whatever we can to prevent it from becoming a second tier constitutional right.

There's a whole lot more crazy in that speech but the above is what's catching most peoples eye.

Not by the government at large, even. By government employers. Schools can't kick your kid out for you being shitty, though they can and should come down on you for your kid being shitty especially to other kids. Employers? That's "private business", and oh yeah, Alito said people should totally be able to fire you for being gay or trans in Bostock v Clayton.

He is straight up two faced. Freedom for meeeeeee to say you are not married and keep my job! Not for theeereee to be called a man and be as a man and keep your job.
 
Yeah. I read about Alito's speech yesterday as it was all over the major newspapers. I sure can understand how worried he is about losing his religious freedom. /s. We atheists have been so successful in closing all the churches down, although there are still about 80 to go in my small southern city before we can claim victory. :D.
 
So get busy. In my town, we chased out the last religioners about ten years ago. No more goddamned bells on Sunday mornings. The churches are mostly ale houses now, except for the big ones just out of town; we store road salt in them. We replaced the dollar with the ingersoll. Some of the goth kids wanted to start up the black magic, but that's a back door to the religious malarkey, so we stamped that out. Christmas is still Christmas, because it's all about the ingersolls.
 
Why some people think ignorance is something to be proud of is beyond me.

Anti-intellectualism is the foundation of conservatism. Accurate knowledge and reason are inherently antithetical to conserving traditional views and customs.

And, to me, hypocrisy is the greatest form of anti-intellectualism. And that seems rampant in conservatives and Republicans these days.
 
In my city, we have been successful to the point where we now behead anyone who dares whisper "Merry Christmas" to anyone else on the street. Any talk of Jesus in the public square is a minimum 2-year felony. Also banned anyone from being able to wear an American flag or sing the national anthem.

So things are on the right track.
 
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