Is Georgia on your mind?

[Jarhyn]

Trump 'Is the Republican Party,' Pollster Says as President Hoards Campaign Donations

Republican pollster John McLaughlin said President Donald Trump is now effectively the Republican Party as the president continues to bring in campaign donations ahead of the Georgia Senate runoffs on January 5.

His comments come as Trump's new leadership PAC, Save America, is making fundraising appeals and calling on the president's supporters to help Republican Senators Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue win reelection.

But Save America does not appear to be spending on the Georgia Senate elections, according to ABC News, citing ad placement data and campaign disclosures.

So Trump cheats his donors also.

Honestly, his acting as a support siphon AWAY from KKKelly And Drug Dealer Dave, that's just fucking amazing. Maybe he divert enough of their support to hamstring them.

 

[southernhybrid]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/19/us/georgia-pastors-see-attack-on-black-church-in-campaign-against-warnock.html?action=click&module=Latest&pgtype=Homepage

In an open letter, dozens of Black religious leaders criticized Senator Kelly Loeffler for her characterizations of the Rev. Dr. Raphael G. Warnock, her Democratic opponent.

As advertisements blanket television and radio in Georgia, and prominent figures from both parties campaign in the state, the message from Republicans has focused in large measure on Mr. Warnock, the senior pastor of Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta.

Ms. Loeffler’s campaign has highlighted Mr. Warnock’s criticism of police officers and a sermon posted to YouTube in 2011 in which he said that “nobody can serve God and the military,” a theme that has roots in biblical passages. In a recent televised debate, she called Mr. Warnock a “radical liberal” 13 times.

“We call on you to cease and desist your false characterizations of Reverend Warnock as ‘radical’ or ‘socialist,’ when there is nothing in his background, writings or sermons that suggests those characterizations to be true, especially when taken in full context,” dozens of pastors from across Georgia wrote in an open letter to the senator. “We see your attacks against Warnock as a broader attack against the Black Church and faith traditions for which we stand.”

However, some Black pastors are critical of Warnock for being prochoice.

Mr. Warnock’s opponents have also focused on his support of abortion rights. An open letter to Mr. Warnock signed by more than two dozen Black ministers castigated him over his position, saying his “open advocacy of abortion is a scandal to the faith and to the Black community.”


And some Orthodox Jewish rabbis had to have their say.

ut Mr. Warnock has also drawn criticism from prominent Orthodox rabbis in Georgia over past statements regarding Israel, particularly a 2018 sermon in which he described the Israeli military shooting down “unarmed Palestinian sisters and brothers like birds of prey.” (Mr. Warnock responded this month that he is a “staunch ally and supporter of Israel.”)

“We believe these statements represent grave errors of judgment and a lapse in pastoral responsibility,” the letter said, “and we entreat you to reconsider them.”

I doubt these people will have much impact on how people vote. OF course Loeffler said that she doesn't have a racist bone in her body. Maybe her bones aren't racist, but that doesn't mean that her brain isn't racist.

It's amusing that the Republicans keep referring to the two Democrats as radical socialists who will destroy the country if elected, when it's obvious to a lot of us, that Loeffler and Perdue are, or appear to be two grifters who are running for office to enlarge the profits in their stock portfolios. Just 15 days until this is over, not counting the recounts that may take place if the election is close.

 

[Elixir]

OF course Loeffler said that she doesn't have a racist bone in her body.

She is lacking some bones, most notable in the vertebral column.

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/19/us/georgia-pastors-see-attack-on-black-church-in-campaign-against-warnock.html?action=click&module=Latest&pgtype=Homepage

“We call on you to cease and desist your false characterizations of Reverend Warnock as ‘radical’ or ‘socialist,’ when there is nothing in his background, writings or sermons that suggests those characterizations to be true, especially when taken in full context,” dozens of pastors from across Georgia wrote in an open letter to the senator. “We see your attacks against Warnock as a broader attack against the Black Church and faith traditions for which we stand.”

However, some Black pastors are critical of Warnock for being prochoice.

Mr. Warnock’s opponents have also focused on his support of abortion rights. An open letter to Mr. Warnock signed by more than two dozen Black ministers castigated him over his position, saying his “open advocacy of abortion is a scandal to the faith and to the Black community.”


And some Orthodox Jewish rabbis had to have their say.

ut Mr. Warnock has also drawn criticism from prominent Orthodox rabbis in Georgia over past statements regarding Israel, particularly a 2018 sermon in which he described the Israeli military shooting down “unarmed Palestinian sisters and brothers like birds of prey.” (Mr. Warnock responded this month that he is a “staunch ally and supporter of Israel.”)

“We believe these statements represent grave errors of judgment and a lapse in pastoral responsibility,” the letter said, “and we entreat you to reconsider them.”

I doubt these people will have much impact on how people vote. OF course Loeffler said that she doesn't have a racist bone in her body. Maybe her bones aren't racist, but that doesn't mean that her brain isn't racist.

It's amusing that the Republicans keep referring to the two Democrats as radical socialists who will destroy the country if elected, when it's obvious to a lot of us, that Loeffler and Perdue are, or appear to be two grifters who are running for office to enlarge the profits in their stock portfolios. Just 15 days until this is over, not counting the recounts that may take place if the election is close.

You can pretty much bank on the fact that the election will be close and that there will be recounts.

My wife and I were out hiking when she heard that Biden had won. It was quite the moment. If we are able to retake the senate because of two wins in Georgia we will absolutely positively have to do something special to mark the occasion. It would not mean there is a god, it would mean something better, and far more important.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

You can pretty much bank on the fact that the election will be close and that there will be recounts.

I doubt it. Either right-wing turnout is suppressed by the insane level of Trump Derangement the GOP is suffering from and the Dems win, or turnout is like in the election and the Republicans win by a few points. Ossoff lost comfortably in November.

My wife and I were out hiking when she heard that Biden had won. It was quite the moment. If we are able to retake the senate because of two wins in Georgia we will absolutely positively have to do something special to mark the occasion. It would not mean there is a god, it would mean something better, and far more important.

It would mean the Trump supporters suffered a collective stroke.

 

[southernhybrid]

You can pretty much bank on the fact that the election will be close and that there will be recounts.

I doubt it. Either right-wing turnout is suppressed by the insane level of Trump Derangement the GOP is suffering from and the Dems win, or turnout is like in the election and the Republicans win by a few points. Ossoff lost comfortably in November.

My wife and I were out hiking when she heard that Biden had won. It was quite the moment. If we are able to retake the senate because of two wins in Georgia we will absolutely positively have to do something special to mark the occasion. It would not mean there is a god, it would mean something better, and far more important.

It would mean the Trump supporters suffered a collective stroke.

Today I heard that the Republican turnout is slightly exceeding the Democratic turnout, but the race is still considered to be extremely close. Today Harris is campaigning in Columbus, Ga. For those who don't live in Georgia, Columbus is a Black majority, fairly liberal area. I'm guessing that turnout hasn't been that great there as of yet, so Harris is trying to motivate people to vote. I actually voted for the fomer mayor of Columbus in the primary election and I thought she would have been a much better candidate than Ossoff, but we can't always get what we want, so of course, I voted for what we have.

I've never seen a candidate as demonized as Warnock has been by his opponent. They are taking a lot of things that he said totally out of context and putting that into ads. What a surprise! Republicans aren't being honest. Who woulda thunk it?

One example is Warnock saying, "God damn America". He was quoting another preacher, and I think saying that he disagreed with him, but that's not how the ad looks. They are trying to make Warnock look like a communist who hates the US. He wasn't going to be my first choice in the primary election either, but I did vote for him because it became obvious that he was the only one who had a chance of coming in second in the primary election which had something like 18 people running. IF he had not come in second, we would have had two Republicans to choose from, because this was a special election to finish the term of Johnny Ikasson. Don't worry if you're not following what I'm posting here. You need to be very familiar with Georgia's politics and rules to get it.

There will likely be a recount if either winner gets less than .5% more than the loser. I tend to think this election is going to be very close regardless of who wins. I'm not counting on a Dem win because I don't want to get my hopes up. If we do win, I too will be celebrating!

 

[southernhybrid]

Texas is at it again!

Maybe the Republicans are worried that the two Dems in Georgia will win the Senate runoff election.

https://www.ajc.com/politics/eligibility-of-364000-georgia-voters-challenged-before-senate-runoff/3UIMDOVRFVERXOJ3IBHYWZBWYI/

A Texas-based organization is working with Georgia Republican Party members to challenge the eligibility of over 364,000 Georgia voters who might have moved, an attempt to disqualify their ballots in the U.S. Senate runoffs.


The effort questions voters’ residency and leaves decisions over whose ballots should count to county election boards.

Voting rights groups say True the Vote is trying to disenfranchise voters, using inexact and unverified change-of-address lists to cancel ballots in a major election that will decide control of the U.S. Senate.

It’s “one of the oldest tricks in the voter suppression playbook,” said Sean Young, an attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia. He called it an example of “voter caging,” the practice of using mail lists to seek large cancellations of registrations.

“It’s unsurprising that political operatives would pull this out in the middle of a contentious election,” Young said. “There’s no shortage of conspiracy theories in this election. Mass voter challenges attempt to make those conspiracies real and disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of voters in the process.”


Federal law prohibits systematic voter removals within 90 days of an election. But registrations of voters can be canceled on a case-by-case basis if county election boards decide a voter is ineligible.

These f'n Republicans are desperate and disgusting.

 

[Jarhyn]

Maybe the Republicans are worried that the two Dems in Georgia will win the Senate runoff election.

https://www.ajc.com/politics/eligibility-of-364000-georgia-voters-challenged-before-senate-runoff/3UIMDOVRFVERXOJ3IBHYWZBWYI/

A Texas-based organization is working with Georgia Republican Party members to challenge the eligibility of over 364,000 Georgia voters who might have moved, an attempt to disqualify their ballots in the U.S. Senate runoffs.


The effort questions voters’ residency and leaves decisions over whose ballots should count to county election boards.

Voting rights groups say True the Vote is trying to disenfranchise voters, using inexact and unverified change-of-address lists to cancel ballots in a major election that will decide control of the U.S. Senate.

It’s “one of the oldest tricks in the voter suppression playbook,” said Sean Young, an attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia. He called it an example of “voter caging,” the practice of using mail lists to seek large cancellations of registrations.

“It’s unsurprising that political operatives would pull this out in the middle of a contentious election,” Young said. “There’s no shortage of conspiracy theories in this election. Mass voter challenges attempt to make those conspiracies real and disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of voters in the process.”


Federal law prohibits systematic voter removals within 90 days of an election. But registrations of voters can be canceled on a case-by-case basis if county election boards decide a voter is ineligible.

These f'n Republicans are desperate and disgusting.

Can't they cure their ballots?

 

[southernhybrid]

Maybe the Republicans are worried that the two Dems in Georgia will win the Senate runoff election.

https://www.ajc.com/politics/eligibility-of-364000-georgia-voters-challenged-before-senate-runoff/3UIMDOVRFVERXOJ3IBHYWZBWYI/







These f'n Republicans are desperate and disgusting.

Can't they cure their ballots?

I suppose they can. They are allowing these people to use provisional ballots until this challenge is decided by the courts. I supposed that each one has the opportunity to show that they are qualified to vote, but that means that this runoff election may not be settled for weeks or months. How long did it take to figure out that Al Franken won his Senate race? I am pretty sure there will at the very least by recounts, unless the election ends up not being as close as many of us expect. And, I'm sure the Republicans will keep trying to use every trick they can imagine to suppress the vote.

 

[James Brown]

How long did it take to figure out that Al Franken won his Senate race?

November 4, 2008 - Election Day

November 18, 2008 - Initial Vote count completed. Franken down by 215 votes. Mandatory recount automatically triggered.

January 6, 2009 - After the recount, Franken's opponent, Norm Coleman, down by 225 votes, filed an election contest.

April 13, 2009 - Coleman's contest dismissed. Franken declared winner by 312 votes.

June 30, 2009 - Coleman's appeal rejected by the Minnesota Supreme Court.

July 7, 2009 - Franken sworn in as junior Senator.

 

[southernhybrid]

How long did it take to figure out that Al Franken won his Senate race?

November 4, 2008 - Election Day

November 18, 2008 - Initial Vote count completed. Franken down by 215 votes. Mandatory recount automatically triggered.

January 6, 2009 - After the recount, Franken's opponent, Norm Coleman, down by 225 votes, filed an election contest.

April 13, 2009 - Coleman's contest dismissed. Franken declared winner by 312 votes.

June 30, 2009 - Coleman's appeal rejected by the Minnesota Supreme Court.

July 7, 2009 - Franken sworn in as junior Senator.

That's what I'm afraid might happen in Georgia. But, Stacey Abrams is on the ball again!

https://www.ajc.com/politics/lawsuit-tries-to-block-effort-to-disqualify-georgia-voters/LCUSTNBS6FGILLEAQB3VG6CZPU/[/URL

The voting rights group Fair Fight plans to fight a Texas organization in court over its challenge to the eligibility of more than 364,000 voters to participate in Georgia’s U.S. Senate runoffs.


Fair Fight, founded by Democrat Stacey Abrams, announced it plans to file a lawsuit in federal court Wednesday to block an election watchdog group, True the Vote, from trying to disqualify voters from the runoffs by questioning their residency.

The lawsuit will allege that True the Vote is engaging in voter intimidation in violation of the Voting Rights Act.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

That's what I'm afraid might happen in Georgia.

Franken's win in MN was by about 0.01%. While not as small as Gore's loss in Florida in '00, it was an extraordinarily close race. I still don't see Georgia being that tight. But heck, losing an election by 7 million popular votes, and 306 to 235 in the Electoral College apparently isn't a big enough margin to send a lot of cases to courts. Espcially in Michigan where Trump lost by over 100,000 votes!

But, Stacey Abrams is on the ball again!

Future DNC Chairperson... if she wants it.

The voting rights group Fair Fight plans to fight a Texas organization in court over its challenge to the eligibility of more than 364,000 voters to participate in Georgia’s U.S. Senate runoffs.

Fair Fight, founded by Democrat Stacey Abrams, announced it plans to file a lawsuit in federal court Wednesday to block an election watchdog group, True the Vote, from trying to disqualify voters from the runoffs by questioning their residency.

The lawsuit will allege that True the Vote is engaging in voter intimidation in violation of the Voting Rights Act.

I'm certain the GOP is equally targeting white voters as much as blacks voters.

 

[southernhybrid]

I'm adding this link for a little humor or taste of what we are dealing with here in Georgia. This is in addition to being constantly nagged to vote. I already fucking voted weeks ago. Leave me alone!

https://www.ajc.com/politics/georgians-get-scrooged-by-campaign-ads/UGT6KM3MVVGNPBCL7IVCJURWGA/

‘Tis the season to be jolly. Unless you’re a Georgia voter, and then it’s hunting season for your time and attention, people.


From YouTube to Tinder, from mailboxes to inboxes and even your child’s favorite Christmas movie, there’s nowhere to hide for a nice Georgian trying to get away from it all, especially if “it all” includes the carpet-bombing campaign ads from Democrats and Republicans heading into the state’s crucial Jan. 5 U.S. Senate runoffs.

“I landed and I’m just bombarded with ads,” said Brady Cohen, a student at the University of Arkansas, whose phone lit up four days ago when he crossed the state line for winter vacation.

“They’re everywhere,” said Cohen, who sees ads on Instagram, Tinder and YouTube videos about football.

And it’s not just ads from the four Senate campaigns, but a crush of third-party players who are jockeying for airtime to tell Georgians what to think before election day.

In the past week alone, there have been 73 television ads in the state about the Senate runoffs.


“It’s just overkill,” Dent said. “One after another after another after another; I think a lot of it is wasted money.”

That is what I meant when I said in an earlier post that this money is being wasted. Sure, it's a very small part of the US budget, but think of how many poor hungry Georgians could be fed with that money. These ads are disgusting.

To watch television in Georgia these days is like watching a movie with four villains and no hero. Make that a Christmas movie.

During one week in December, Loeffler’s campaign ran ads on shows ranging from “Cuomo Prime Time” to “Fox & Friends.” But it also bought ads everywhere from the Food Network to AMC, which is running a Christmas movie marathon.

That means anyone watching “Rudolph and Frosty,” “Elf,” “Frosty the Snowman” or “Frosty’s Winter Wonderland” also saw a Loeffler ad about “radical Raphael Warnock.”

And they might even see an ad from the liberal PAC Meidas Touch, accusing Loeffler and Perdue of being “Grinches” themselves.

Anyway, we are all suffering from campaign fatigue here in Georgia. We are all getting tired of being told by other people how to vote, that this is the most important vote in our lifetimes, etc. etc. You get the idea. I'm at the point where I don't even care that much anymore about the outcome ( okay, I do ) but mostly I just want it to be over!

 

[Elixir]

I'm certain the GOP is equally targeting white voters as much as blacks voters.

Heh - yes, they've been astonishingly fair in that regard.
Telling their white supporters not to vote by mail and all that kind of stuff, shows incredible even handedness.

 

[Derec]

I've never seen a candidate as demonized as Warnock has been by his opponent. They are taking a lot of things that he said totally out of context and putting that into ads. What a surprise! Republicans aren't being honest. Who woulda thunk it?

One example is Warnock saying, "God damn America". He was quoting another preacher, and I think saying that he disagreed with him, but that's not how the ad looks.

Apparently, that sentence was taken out of context, but he did defend Jeremiah Wright overall. And there is a lot more. He did defend and praise Nation of Islam/Louis Farrakhan. He did call for clemency for a cop killer. He did slander Israel with lies that Palestinian violence was "peaceful protesting". He did call police officers gangsters and thugs.

They are trying to make Warnock look like a communist who hates the US. He wasn't going to be my first choice in the primary election either, but I did vote for him because it became obvious that he was the only one who had a chance of coming in second in the primary election which had something like 18 people running.

A big problem with him is that he and his supporters are trying to deflect any criticism of his positions by reference to him being a pastor, as if that should give him a carte blanche.
For example when he said that you can't serve god and military or money. Sure, it is adapted from GMatt. 6:24 but it is, as far as I can determine as that video is pretty rambling, an anti-military and anti-capitalism (except for highly profitable and tax-exempt religion biz) statement.
He is no longer just a preacherman. He is now running for Senate it is fair game to scrutinize his past statements. He should not get to hide behind the pulpit or the Bible!

 

[Elixir]

A big problem with him is that he and his supporters are trying to deflect any criticism of his positions by reference to him being a pastor, as if that should give him a carte blanche. He is now running for Senate it is fair game to scrutinize his past statements. He should not get to hide behind the pulpit or the Bible!

Agreed. What he really needs is a big fat flag to hide behind, like his opponents.

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

A big problem with him is that he and his supporters are trying to deflect any criticism of his positions by reference to him being a pastor, as if that should give him a carte blanche. He is now running for Senate it is fair game to scrutinize his past statements. He should not get to hide behind the pulpit or the Bible!

Agreed. What he really needs is a big fat flag to hide behind, like his opponents.

And a pointy white hat and sheet.

 

[southernhybrid]

Money, money, money, money, MON-EY ( sorry that O'jays song keep popping into my head.....

https://www.ajc.com/politics/election/loeffler-reports-536-million-in-contributions/3S3A2247RFE3VJ3Y26VUWY5K24/

Rev. Raphael Warnock and Jon Ossoff, the Democratic challengers seeking to unseat Republican Sens. Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue, reported a combined $210.2 million in contributions over the past two months in reports filed Christmas Eve.


The individual totals were almost evenly split with Warnock reporting $103.4 million in receipts to Ossoff’s $106.8 million, a record-shattering pace of contributions fueled largely by small-dollar donations.

The Republican incumbents reported huge fundraising numbers as well. Loeffler reported a total of $64 million raised since mid-October. Perdue brought in $68.1 million over the same time period.

I guess that's why we are constantly bombarded with political ads and junk mail.

 

[southernhybrid]

Who's voted so far in the runoff

https://www.ajc.com/resizer/LHJB81V...ishing.com/ajc/HK4PBC56E5ELHJCCL2Q3J7CVPE.png

 

[Swammerdami]

https://www.ajc.com/resizer/LHJB81V...ishing.com/ajc/HK4PBC56E5ELHJCCL2Q3J7CVPE.png

That graph shows black turnout at almost exactly 34%: the portion of blacks in the state. Is that good news because blacks usually have low turnout?

With blacks voting heavily for the humans, as many as 65 or 70% of whites could vote for the monsters and the human candidates would win in a landslide! Doug Jones was elected as Alabama Senator with less than 20% support from white men without degrees — whites overwhelmingly voted for the pederast. Keep these facts in mind when a claim is made that white voters in the South are increasingly humane or rational.