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[TWEET]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mitt Romney, in a flight full of patriots in their way to DC <a href="https://t.co/t9uq3vkCo5">pic.twitter.com/t9uq3vkCo5</a></p>— Non timebo mala (@AncPerl) <a href="https://twitter.com/AncPerl/status/1346597598044561409?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 5, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/TWEET]

[TWEET]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We warned you these psychotic freaks would turn on republicans once Trump lost. I’m not a Romney fan but he’s done nothing but adhere to his oath, and the MAGA trash does this to him. <a href="https://t.co/VowYYSxrvw">pic.twitter.com/VowYYSxrvw</a></p>— Bradley P. Moss (@BradMossEsq) <a href="https://twitter.com/BradMossEsq/status/1346637313372278785?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/TWEET]

Wow, these people are morons.
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/election-us-2020-55566501

Funny with Biden saying that what the MAGA guys did is unamerican. "It's not what we are". I'm sorry, but yes it is. If it wasn't, they wouldn't have done it.

So all Americans should be judged by the actions of a very small minority?
He does have a point, though. That wasn't some random assembly of people. That was Trump's base. And his base is not small. And over 50% of Republicans think the election was stolen. And, over 100 Republicans in the House voted against Arizona's EV's. Even after the Schoolboy Riot, there were 121 GOP votes to scratch Arizona's EVs, even knowing that Trump's lawyers explicitly said they were not making any claims of fraud in the Arizona State Courts.
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/election-us-2020-55566501

Funny with Biden saying that what the MAGA guys did is unamerican. "It's not what we are". I'm sorry, but yes it is. If it wasn't, they wouldn't have done it.

So all Americans should be judged by the actions of a very small minority?

No, but it's true that some Americans do behave this way... because they did. It's the No True Scotsman fallacy. It was a stupid thing to say of Biden. What I think he meant to say is that he wished no Americans behaved that way, but here we are.
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/election-us-2020-55566501

Funny with Biden saying that what the MAGA guys did is unamerican. "It's not what we are". I'm sorry, but yes it is. If it wasn't, they wouldn't have done it.

So all Americans should be judged by the actions of a very small minority?

No, but it's true that some Americans do behave this way... because they did. It's the No True Scotsman fallacy. It was a stupid thing to say of Biden. What I think he meant to say is that he wished no Americans behaved that way, but here we are.
The other angle is that, Americans have never stormed the Capitol to prevent the counting of the EV.
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/election-us-2020-55566501

Funny with Biden saying that what the MAGA guys did is unamerican. "It's not what we are". I'm sorry, but yes it is. If it wasn't, they wouldn't have done it.
I think there's an idiom gap, here. "UnAmerican" does not mean 'no American would do that.' It means 'by American values, this behavior is contraindicated.'
Or, if you prefer, 'by (my understanding of) American values, this behavior is contraindicated.'

Rioting to prevent democracy is rather UnAmerican.
However, smashing barricades to break into the capitol, then stsying inside the red velvet ropes as you tour the place? Trey, trey American.
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/election-us-2020-55566501

Funny with Biden saying that what the MAGA guys did is unamerican. "It's not what we are". I'm sorry, but yes it is. If it wasn't, they wouldn't have done it.
I think there's an idiom gap, here. "UnAmerican" does not mean 'no American would do that.' It means 'by American values, this behavior is contraindicated.'
Or, if you prefer, 'by (my understanding of) American values, this behavior is contraindicated.'

Rioting to prevent democracy is rather UnAmerican.
However, smashing barricades to break into the capitol, then stsying inside the red velvet ropes as you tour the place? Trey, trey American.

Who gets to decide American values? It's of course the Americans. How do Americans show what they value? Through their actions. I disagree with you on this. Americanness isn't a lofty ideal to aspire to. It is a description of a culture as it is.
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/election-us-2020-55566501

Funny with Biden saying that what the MAGA guys did is unamerican. "It's not what we are". I'm sorry, but yes it is. If it wasn't, they wouldn't have done it.

So all Americans should be judged by the actions of a very small minority?

No, but it's true that some Americans do behave this way... because they did. It's the No True Scotsman fallacy. It was a stupid thing to say of Biden. What I think he meant to say is that he wished no Americans behaved that way, but here we are.

And some Americans are flat earthers, some are anti-vaxxers, some believe Elvis is still alive, some believe they’ve been abducted by aliens. That may be who *some* of us are but no group should be judged by their minority members.

And yes there are a lot of people who believe the election was fraudulent but most of them are victims. You can’t fault them for believing what their leaders are telling them, what their news sources are telling them.

The breakdown of culture isn’t started by the followers it is started by the leaders.
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/election-us-2020-55566501

Funny with Biden saying that what the MAGA guys did is unamerican. "It's not what we are". I'm sorry, but yes it is. If it wasn't, they wouldn't have done it.

So all Americans should be judged by the actions of a very small minority?

by the actions like the colonial insurrectionists (er, Founding Fathers). Not to mention the killers of and fighters against "Indians" to clear them out of the way so the Americans could possess their land.
 
Man, Rudy is the gift that keeps on giving:

On Wednesday, Giuliani called Sen. Tommy Tuberville of Alabama to strategize about successfully slowing down the Electoral College roll call at the Capitol. The problem? Giuliani called the wrong person.

He instead left a voicemail with another (unnamed) senator, who then forwarded a recording of the call to The Dispatch.
 
Americanness isn't a lofty ideal to aspire to.
But that is what Biden meant in the quote you took issue with. It's what we mean when we say that.

But he's not a God or a dictator. He's just USA's democratically elected leader. He doesn't get to decide those things.

But, wait. You JUST SAID that American behavior defines American traits. This is an American idiom used by an American to communicate an idea to other Americans.

Your permission to use the word is neither desired or required.
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/election-us-2020-55566501

Funny with Biden saying that what the MAGA guys did is unamerican. "It's not what we are". I'm sorry, but yes it is. If it wasn't, they wouldn't have done it.

So all Americans should be judged by the actions of a very small minority?

No, but it's true that some Americans do behave this way... because they did. It's the No True Scotsman fallacy. It was a stupid thing to say of Biden. What I think he meant to say is that he wished no Americans behaved that way, but here we are.

Nothing personal, and I don't know you very well. Pardon me if I misunderstood your post.

But I can well understand why someone from a small monoculture in Europe wouldn't understand a huge and wildly diverse culture like the USA. There's relatively small extremist groups here that are much bigger than the entire country of Denmark. And even those extremist groups are more diverse than Denmark.
Tom
 
No, but it's true that some Americans do behave this way... because they did. It's the No True Scotsman fallacy. It was a stupid thing to say of Biden. What I think he meant to say is that he wished no Americans behaved that way, but here we are.

Nothing personal, and I don't know you very well. Pardon me if I misunderstood your post.

But I can well understand why someone from a small monoculture in Europe wouldn't understand a huge and wildly diverse culture like the USA. There's relatively small extremist groups here that are much bigger than the entire country of Denmark. And even those extremist groups are more diverse than Denmark.
Tom

I recall being in my wife’s home country being lectured to about American culture by someone who’d never been here and I had to sit quietly and nod because this person was a close personal friend of my wife’s family. Sigh.
 
Awesome read!

Jimmy Higgins' review of The Third Trump said:
The Third Trump picks up 16 years after The Second Trump finishes. Barron Trump, a vile and despicable communist, had risen to power with the support of the conservatives only to betray their trust and rule for 16 years as a despot who oversaw the murder of millions of god fearing Americans and conservatives. Barron erased the history of America and replaced it with a fake history, in which his Father allegedly turned the page to economic equity and he was continuing that legacy.

Unbeknownst to him though, there was a "third Trump", the daughter of one of the many Donald Trump's bastard children. While standing in a food line, she saw a crumpled copy a Adam Smith book and an Ayn Rand book while awaiting to receive scraps for her family. She discretely took both books so she could read the Smith book and use the Rand book as toilet paper. Inspired by what she read, she came up with a brilliant plan to fake being a communist and then turn on her cousin or whatever he was and restore American Capitalism. Which was ironic because history was rewritten, she didn't know Barron had done the opposite. That is quality writing!

She quickly rose in the ranks of the Barron Von Trump Party, and then before she knew it, stood second only to her fourth cousin (?) in the chain of command. But his security detail was too tight, which meant it would be impossible to do harm to him. So, being an inspiring capitalist, she used her imagination and concocted a perfect plan.

She got to Barron and quickly rushed him into a closet and turned on the light. She told him he was in danger and handed him a piece of paper. On one side it said "How do you escape this dangerous plot" with small writing saying "turn over" in the corner. Barron turned over the paper which read "How do you escape this dangerous plot" with small writing in the corner reading "turn over". Barron continued to read the paper and flip it over.

The third Trump got out of the closet, locked the door and then attempts to seize power by breaking furniture and windows and taking selfies. Her plot succeeds and America becomes profitable once again!

I don't want to spoil the rest of the novel, so I'll leave it there.
 
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