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[dismal]

And the bad guy is just going to sit there waiting for backup to show up??

In this case "the bad guy" was running away. Wilson did not have to exit his vehicle at this point, and since he claimed he was afraid for his life he probably shouldn't have.

Here's something you may have missed: Wilson is a cop.

Attempting to wrestle a gun away from a cop is a very serious crime. Cops are paid to go after people who commit crimes not say "phew he's running away I guess I'm safe".

 

[ksen]

National Bar Association response:
http://us7.campaign-archive1.com/?u=b493e6c4d31beda32fdaf8e2d&id=73514e334b

National Bar Association President Pamela J. Meanes expresses her sincere disappointment with the outcome of the Grand Jury’s decision but has made it abundantly clear that the National Bar Association stands firm and will be calling on the U.S. Department of Justice to pursue federal charges against officer Darren Wilson. “We will not rest until Michael Brown and his family has justice” states Pamela Meanes, President of the National Bar Association.

dirty commies

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

In this case "the bad guy" was running away. Wilson did not have to exit his vehicle at this point, and since he claimed he was afraid for his life he probably shouldn't have.

Here's something you may have missed: Wilson is a cop.

Attempting to wrestle a gun away from a cop is a very serious crime. Cops are paid to go after people who commit crimes not say "phew he's running away I guess I'm safe".

Officers aren't obligated to throw themselves into dangerous situations alone if the safety of bystanders is not at risk.

 

[ksen]

In this case "the bad guy" was running away. Wilson did not have to exit his vehicle at this point, and since he claimed he was afraid for his life he probably shouldn't have.

Here's something you may have missed: Wilson is a cop.

Attempting to wrestle a gun away from a cop is a very serious crime. Cops are paid to go after people who commit crimes not say "phew he's running away I guess I'm safe".

And apparently that very serious crime comes with an automatic death sentence even if you've stopped wrestling for the gun and run over half a football field away from the police officer because since you've already made the officer draw his weapon there's nothing left for him to do but fire it until you're dead.

 

[Derec]

And apparently that very serious crime comes with an automatic death sentence even if you've stopped wrestling for the gun and run over half a football field away from the police officer because since you've already made the officer draw his weapon there's nothing left for him to do but fire it until you're dead.

Well he could have surrendered. Not fled "half a football field away" and then turned around and charged or walked toward the officer when he saw that the officer was chasing after him. That's a pretty reliable recipe for getting killed.

 

[Bronzeage]

In this case "the bad guy" was running away. Wilson did not have to exit his vehicle at this point, and since he claimed he was afraid for his life he probably shouldn't have.

Here's something you may have missed: Wilson is a cop.

Attempting to wrestle a gun away from a cop is a very serious crime. Cops are paid to go after people who commit crimes not say "phew he's running away I guess I'm safe".

Has anyone answered the question, "Given the choice of running away and trying to wrestle a gun away from a cop, why would a person choose to go for the gun?"

 

[dismal]

Here's something you may have missed: Wilson is a cop.

Attempting to wrestle a gun away from a cop is a very serious crime. Cops are paid to go after people who commit crimes not say "phew he's running away I guess I'm safe".

Officers aren't obligated to throw themselves into dangerous situations alone if the safety of bystanders is not at risk.

Ok, but we are still left with a cop who pursued a person who had just committed a serious crime, no?

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Has anyone answered the question, "Given the choice of running away and trying to wrestle a gun away from a cop, why would a person choose to go for the gun?"

The simple answer would be "because he thought he could get the gun". People die of stupidity every day.

 

[dismal]

Here's something you may have missed: Wilson is a cop.

Attempting to wrestle a gun away from a cop is a very serious crime. Cops are paid to go after people who commit crimes not say "phew he's running away I guess I'm safe".

Has anyone answered the question, "Given the choice of running away and trying to wrestle a gun away from a cop, why would a person choose to go for the gun?"

Agreed. It was a bad choice.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Officers aren't obligated to throw themselves into dangerous situations alone if the safety of bystanders is not at risk.

Ok, but we are still left with a cop who pursued a person who had just committed a serious crime, no?

So you concede my point, but then pretend you haven't. The Officer put himself into a needlessly risky situation in following the perpetrator of which, to his admission scared him. Pursuit could easily have restarted once backup arrived... to well... back him up.

 

[dismal]

Ok, but we are still left with a cop who pursued a person who had just committed a serious crime, no?

So you concede my point, but then pretend you haven't. The Officer put himself into a needlessly risky situation in following the perpetrator of which, to his admission scared him. Pursuit could easily have restarted once backup arrived... to well... back him up.

No, he had a gun and pursued an unarmed person who had just committed a serious crime. On its face it seems a reasonable thing for a cop to do.

 

[ksen]

And apparently that very serious crime comes with an automatic death sentence even if you've stopped wrestling for the gun and run over half a football field away from the police officer because since you've already made the officer draw his weapon there's nothing left for him to do but fire it until you're dead.

Well he could have surrendered. Not fled "half a football field away" and then turned around and charged or walked toward the officer when he saw that the officer was chasing after him. That's a pretty reliable recipe for getting killed.

It is a reliable way to get killed. My point is that it shouldn't be a reliable way to get killed. My point is that there was plenty of time for Wilson to use non-lethal measures to subdue Brown. He chose not to use them. He chose to kill a man. Killing a man should be a police officer's last resort.

 

[ksen]

Ok, but we are still left with a cop who pursued a person who had just committed a serious crime, no?

So you concede my point, but then pretend you haven't. The Officer put himself into a needlessly risky situation in following the perpetrator of which, to his admission scared him. Pursuit could easily have restarted once backup arrived... to well... back him up.

Maybe the Officer Wilson forgot his department had helicopters on hand that could have kept an eye on the black demon while he waited for backup.

https://www.muckrock.com/news/archi...rk-police-departments-large-and-small-gain-m/

Ferguson area departments obtained helicopters, rifles and military vehicles at no cost by participating in the [1033] program.

 

[fromderinside]

Well he could have surrendered. Not fled "half a football field away" and then turned around and charged or walked toward the officer when he saw that the officer was chasing after him. That's a pretty reliable recipe for getting killed.

It is a reliable way to get killed. My point is that it shouldn't be a reliable way to get killed. My point is that there was plenty of time for Wilson to use non-lethal measures to subdue Brown. He chose not to use them. He chose to kill a man. Killing a man should be a police officer's last resort.

When was the last time you put your penis back in your shorts after you'd taken it out for sexual use? Exactly.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

So you concede my point, but then pretend you haven't. The Officer put himself into a needlessly risky situation in following the perpetrator of which, to his admission scared him. Pursuit could easily have restarted once backup arrived... to well... back him up.

No, he had a gun and pursued an unarmed person who had just committed a serious crime. On its face it seems a reasonable thing for a cop to do.

So the Officer knew the person was unarmed and shot him from a notable distance?

 

[ksen]

So you concede my point, but then pretend you haven't. The Officer put himself into a needlessly risky situation in following the perpetrator of which, to his admission scared him. Pursuit could easily have restarted once backup arrived... to well... back him up.

No, he had a gun and pursued an unarmed person who had just committed a serious crime. On its face it seems a reasonable thing for a cop to do.

Officer Wilson is on record saying he thought Brown was reaching for a gun in his waistband so according to his testimony he thought Brown may have been armed.

Althought that begs the question that if Brown had his own gun why would he bother trying to get Wilson's gun?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

It is a reliable way to get killed. My point is that it shouldn't be a reliable way to get killed. My point is that there was plenty of time for Wilson to use non-lethal measures to subdue Brown. He chose not to use them. He chose to kill a man. Killing a man should be a police officer's last resort.

When was the last time you put your penis back in your shorts after you'd taken it out for sexual use? Exactly.

Well, if he's married...

 

[ksen]

It is a reliable way to get killed. My point is that it shouldn't be a reliable way to get killed. My point is that there was plenty of time for Wilson to use non-lethal measures to subdue Brown. He chose not to use them. He chose to kill a man. Killing a man should be a police officer's last resort.

When was the last time you put your penis back in your shorts after you'd taken it out for sexual use? Exactly.

you make a good point

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When was the last time you put your penis back in your shorts after you'd taken it out for sexual use? Exactly.

Well, if he's married...

 

[ksen]

Ferguson tragedy becoming a farce

One might give McCulloch the benefit of the doubt, if not for his background. His father was a police officer killed in a shootout with a black suspect, and several of his family members are, or were, police officers. His 23-year record on the job reveals scant interest in prosecuting such cases. During his tenure, there have been at least a dozen fatal shootings by police in his jurisdiction (the roughly 90 municipalities in the county other than St. Louis itself), and probably many more than that, but McCulloch’s office has not prosecuted a single police shooting in all those years. At least four times he presented evidence to a grand jury but — wouldn’t you know it? — didn’t get an indictment.

One of the four: A 2000 case in which a grand jury declined to indict two police officers who had shot two unarmed black men 21 times while they sat in their car behind a Jack in the Box fast-food restaurant. It was a botched drug arrest, and one of the two men killed hadn’t even been a suspect. McCulloch at the time said he agreed with the grand jury’s decision, dismissing complaints of the handling of the case by saying the dead men “were bums.” He refused to release surveillance tapes of the shooting. When those tapes were later released as part of a federal probe, it was discovered that, contrary to what police alleged, the car had not moved before the police began shooting.

jesus christ

 

[Bronzeage]

It is a reliable way to get killed. My point is that it shouldn't be a reliable way to get killed. My point is that there was plenty of time for Wilson to use non-lethal measures to subdue Brown. He chose not to use them. He chose to kill a man. Killing a man should be a police officer's last resort.

When was the last time you put your penis back in your shorts after you'd taken it out for sexual use? Exactly.

If you can show the relevance this information would have to the discussion, I will be happy to answer the question.