The Great Hypocrisy of Right-Wingers Claiming ‘Cancel Culture’

[jab]

This is a message that the liberal media, if there were one, would do well to amplify.

Hypocrisy is, if articulated clearly, something that conservatives dislike. But it must be clear and unmistakable, and declared very often.

The American right, since the one two three punch of McConnell and Trump and Cruz, have become rather inured to hypocrisy, and quite shameless. But I have noticed for decades a propensity of most people (myself included) to criticize harshly as fundamental flaws errors in out opponents, but turn away from or shrug off the same error in oneself or in one's friends and allies--to say then that at worst it is a superficial thing and not indicative of any deeper problem.

 

[blastula]

The cheating trainer who cried cancel.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1391763874295291913?s=20[/TWEET]

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Katie Hobbs - latest victim

Secretary of State for Arizona, she was receiving death threats and now Republicans are signing off on a bill to remove her ability to defend election law, putting it in the hands of the AG who is amenable to their agenda. When the "audit" completes, he'll just agree with the sham. So the opposition is canceled or will be and they also threatened to kill her.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Kamala Harris

 

[steve_bank]

On this agree with the right.

The media had become a witch hunt to eradicate anything deemed offense to anyone based on race and ethnicity.

 

[KeepTalking]

Kamala Harris

Oh, the horror!

I mean, what was she thinking? That she would save the Memorial day tweet for actual Memorial Day? How dare she?!

 

[Shadowy Man]

Kamala Harris

Oh, the horror!

I mean, what was she thinking? That she would save the Memorial day tweet for actual Memorial Day? How dare she?!

I mean, Trump would never say anything so offensive to members of our military or their families!!1!

 

[steve_bank]

What comes to mind is the Chinese Cultural Revolution that tuned into a large scale mob thought police.

People deemed not thinking correctly sent to 're-education camps'.

China is doing it today to a minority Muslim group.

 

[Ford]

Kamala Harris

Oh, the horror!

I mean, what was she thinking? That she would save the Memorial day tweet for actual Memorial Day? How dare she?!

I fully believe that right wingers follow people like Harris and AOC on social media for no other reason than to get instantly offended by their posts. And then they call the social media they use a "cancer." Now, apparently, they're suggesting that they should use the 2nd Amendment as an excuse to take up arms against "big tech" and social media companies for "cancelling" their nuttery.

https://news.yahoo.com/matt-gaetz-tells-america-first-140008267.html

 

[fromderinside]

Don't you just love it when those who can't do react with violence as the solution.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

What comes to mind is the Chinese Cultural Revolution that tuned into a large scale mob thought police.

People deemed not thinking correctly sent to 're-education camps'.

China is doing it today to a minority Muslim group.

Yeah, that's what the trumpets would like.

 

[steve_bank]

What comes to mind is the Chinese Cultural Revolution that tuned into a large scale mob thought police.

People deemed not thinking correctly sent to 're-education camps'.

China is doing it today to a minority Muslim group.

Yeah, that's what the trumpets would like.

When it comes to propaganda left and rigt are flip sides of the same coin.

When I was doing a long commute I went back and forth between conservative and liberal radio. Mirror images.

During the Trump admin CNN was constantly putting out hearsay as fact when it put Trump in a bad light. Nor t that I like Trump but the media polarized and both sides use the same tactics.

Fake news can be overt like some on FOX, or it can be more subtle like CNN. When Sharpton went to work at MSNBC he said he woud never say anything negative about Obama.

I scan the news sites everyday.

Hardly a day goes by when CNN does not inflame some offhand remark or situation by somebody.

The Republican part problems with Trump is now a 'Civil War" as the title of a CNN piece.

CNN on air people now engage with name calling with FOX people.

 

[Angry Floof]

Both sides are the same and they all lie! There's no way to tell right from wrong or truth from fiction in this sea of misinformation! None! We can't recognize anything like principles or honesty in this vast landscape of self serving deceit! Oh, well, better just go with gut feeling. It's the only option.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Guess it's time for some necromancy. Now we have some actual cancel culture at work:

2nd Trump-appointed judge publicly says she will not hire Yale clerks

A federal appeals court judge on Friday said she was joining a boycott of hiring law clerks from Yale Law School proposed by a fellow appointee of former Republican President Donald Trump who said the school was plagued by "cancel culture."

www.reuters.com

Oops, as usual it's the right wing doing it.

Unfortunately, there's no way to impeach this judge.

 

[Gun Nut]

I know it is hard for those on the right wing to understand, but here on the left, we do not blindly follow the pundits and media personalities we watch on TV.

So, all leftists think for themselves, and all rightists (except the pundits and media personalities, I assume) cannot or do not think for themselves? Is that a fair summary of your opinion?

Have you seen American righties lately?

I'll tell you what I've seen.

In right wing spheres, I've seen the meme of leftie NPCs. (For those not familiar, an NPC in a computer game is a non-player character, who has a few pre-programmed responses to player character questions and further interaction with the character does not change what they say or produce any new information.) I don't think NPC-ness, however, is any more typical of the left than the right, but NPCs are definitely visible on the left. When you ask them for their reasoning, they tell you to 'go look at Google', as if the burden of proof were on the person skeptical of their claims to prove it for them. They have a ready arsenal of identity-based 'rebuttals' of any argument--"spotted the cis white male"--as if this were somehow an argument.

I find fascinating that the only way that some on the left can conceptualise the right is as mindless automatons (pundit-believing), completely evil, or both. But the mindless automata accusation comes up often, especially on this board. "Stop watching Fox News/stop watching X/stop going to your news aggregator" etc.

I don't mindlessly believe the arguments espoused in every news report I see, or every video I watch, or every news article I read. There may be empirical evidence that people with conservative beliefs are more likely to accept arguments they already agree with from authority figures they respect, but 'accepting arguments you already agree with from authority figures you respect' is something I see plenty of on the left. And even if it did characterise some political orientations more than others, nothing is ever true of everybody from a particular political orientation.

Basically, KeepTalking's comment and Don2's response is typical of the attitude of many left-leaning people on this board. The left claims it has epistemological superiority and critical reasoning superiority.

I think you are minimizing the true extent to which "the left" relies on objective, referencial, provable facts to help people form their own opinions.. summarized by you as "go look at Google".. .which would more correctly be categorized as "Google it - and see for yourself the fact that X said Y or A did B". And "the Right" more often relies on emotionally charged "one liners" that "own the libs" and "truth" is "what makes me laugh or otherwise feel good"... FACTS BE DAMNED.
The right tends to view a fact as something their group has curated, adopted, and repeated around their circle as some kind of mantra
The left tends to view a fact as something that is empirically demonstrable to be in support of a specific assertion.... like, you know... a fucking fact.

 

[Patooka]

FYI, you're responding to a post over a year old from a poster who hasn't been around for months.

 

[Worldtraveller]

Is metaphor gone??

Praise the lord!

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Maybe he's become endemic.

 

[Metaphor]

I know it is hard for those on the right wing to understand, but here on the left, we do not blindly follow the pundits and media personalities we watch on TV.

So, all leftists think for themselves, and all rightists (except the pundits and media personalities, I assume) cannot or do not think for themselves? Is that a fair summary of your opinion?

Have you seen American righties lately?

I'll tell you what I've seen.

In right wing spheres, I've seen the meme of leftie NPCs. (For those not familiar, an NPC in a computer game is a non-player character, who has a few pre-programmed responses to player character questions and further interaction with the character does not change what they say or produce any new information.) I don't think NPC-ness, however, is any more typical of the left than the right, but NPCs are definitely visible on the left. When you ask them for their reasoning, they tell you to 'go look at Google', as if the burden of proof were on the person skeptical of their claims to prove it for them. They have a ready arsenal of identity-based 'rebuttals' of any argument--"spotted the cis white male"--as if this were somehow an argument.

I find fascinating that the only way that some on the left can conceptualise the right is as mindless automatons (pundit-believing), completely evil, or both. But the mindless automata accusation comes up often, especially on this board. "Stop watching Fox News/stop watching X/stop going to your news aggregator" etc.

I don't mindlessly believe the arguments espoused in every news report I see, or every video I watch, or every news article I read. There may be empirical evidence that people with conservative beliefs are more likely to accept arguments they already agree with from authority figures they respect, but 'accepting arguments you already agree with from authority figures you respect' is something I see plenty of on the left. And even if it did characterise some political orientations more than others, nothing is ever true of everybody from a particular political orientation.

Basically, KeepTalking's comment and Don2's response is typical of the attitude of many left-leaning people on this board. The left claims it has epistemological superiority and critical reasoning superiority.

I think you are minimizing the true extent to which "the left" relies on objective, referencial, provable facts to help people form their own opinions.. summarized by you as "go look at Google".. .which would more correctly be categorized as "Google it - and see for yourself the fact that X said Y or A did B".

You misunderstand. I am not talking about mundane facts ("X said Y"). Mundane facts are not the issue. Rather, it is a conclusion (such as: only white people can be racist or trans women are women) that requires agreement to premises and an examination of the argument for soundness.

If you are unwilling to make your case, I am unwilling to accept your conclusion.

And "the Right" more often relies on emotionally charged "one liners" that "own the libs" and "truth" is "what makes me laugh or otherwise feel good"... FACTS BE DAMNED.
The right tends to view a fact as something their group has curated, adopted, and repeated around their circle as some kind of mantra
The left tends to view a fact as something that is empirically demonstrable to be in support of a specific assertion.... like, you know... a fucking fact.

I am sure you see it that way.

 

[Metaphor]

Is metaphor gone??

Praise the lord!

How kind.