US rent moratorium expired

[laughing dog]

So don’t punish the landlords.

The money is ultimately for the landlords.

Not this landlord. No help for the small fry landlord in Missouri. No help for a lot of other landlords mentioned in OP either.

Trausti is exactly right. And most interesting of all is that it's the Democrats who seem to be in favor of further wiping out the middle class.

Where do you get that? The moratorium is not extended, so all those deadbeats can be evicted.

 

[Trausti]

And most interesting of all is that it's the Democrats who seem to be in favor of further wiping out the middle class.

How else to explain their bending over backwards to apologize for the violation of rule of law?

Heh. For four years they brayed about the threat of a fascist dictator. Now following the rule of law is for losers.

 

[TV and credit cards]

So don’t punish the landlords.

The money is ultimately for the landlords.

Not this landlord. No help for the small fry landlord in Missouri. No help for a lot of other landlords mentioned in OP either.

Trausti is exactly right. And most interesting of all is that it's the Democrats who seem to be in favor of further wiping out the middle class.

How else to explain their bending over backwards to apologize for the violation of rule of law? People can be poor and they can be rich without violence. It is when the government steps in to create unfair conditions when the public becomes ripe for revolution.

Democrat Joe Biden’s Democrat administration made available funds to the states. Your Republican Missouri government has these federal dollars earmarked for landlords. It is up to Missouri Republicans to disburse it. If they are not doing that it is because Republicans are dicks.

 

[Trausti]

Not this landlord. No help for the small fry landlord in Missouri. No help for a lot of other landlords mentioned in OP either.

Trausti is exactly right. And most interesting of all is that it's the Democrats who seem to be in favor of further wiping out the middle class.

How else to explain their bending over backwards to apologize for the violation of rule of law? People can be poor and they can be rich without violence. It is when the government steps in to create unfair conditions when the public becomes ripe for revolution.

Democrat Joe Biden’s Democrat administration made available funds to the states. Your Republican Missouri government has these federal dollars earmarked for landlords. It is up to Missouri Republicans to disburse it. If they are not doing that it is because Republicans are dicks.

But why should the landlord be punished for that?

 

[ZiprHead]

So don’t punish the landlords.

The money is ultimately for the landlords.

Not this landlord. No help for the small fry landlord in Missouri. No help for a lot of other landlords mentioned in OP either.

Trausti is exactly right. And most interesting of all is that it's the Democrats who seem to be in favor of further wiping out the middle class.

How else to explain their bending over backwards to apologize for the violation of rule of law? People can be poor and they can be rich without violence. It is when the government steps in to create unfair conditions when the public becomes ripe for revolution.

Go to the DoT link I posted above. Help your tenants apply. It includes back rent owed.

Because you're ignorant of the help available doesn't mean it's not there.

 

[ZiprHead]

Not this landlord. No help for the small fry landlord in Missouri. No help for a lot of other landlords mentioned in OP either.

Trausti is exactly right. And most interesting of all is that it's the Democrats who seem to be in favor of further wiping out the middle class.

How else to explain their bending over backwards to apologize for the violation of rule of law? People can be poor and they can be rich without violence. It is when the government steps in to create unfair conditions when the public becomes ripe for revolution.

Democrat Joe Biden’s Democrat administration made available funds to the states. Your Republican Missouri government has these federal dollars earmarked for landlords. It is up to Missouri Republicans to disburse it. If they are not doing that it is because Republicans are dicks.

^^ This ^^

And they want you to blame the dems.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Glad to hear this. I hope they can make haste to distribute the COVID funds that were intended for these needy Americans.

Agreed! But I'd only give covid funds to people who can demonstrate that they are vaccinated.

I really like this idea! You don't get help if you're part of the problem.

 

[lpetrich]

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "Reminder: BOTH tenants and landlords can get help through the emergency rental assistance program.

It not only covers rent, but may also cover utilities, moving expenses, security deposits, late fees, etc.

Please share widely! Applications are here: (link)" / Twitter
Find rental assistance | U.S. Department of the Treasury
"Treasury has collected websites associated with our grantees’ Emergency Rental Assistance (ERA) programs to help tenants and landlords find rental assistance programs in their local areas."

Yes, it's for landlords as well as for tenants.

Though right-wingers might say about that "Oh, no! They won't be victims anymore!"

AOC credited her staff people and the other Congresspeople's staff members for also helping out. It's so nice to see non-egotistical leadership.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "%. On Capitol Hill, the norm in staff culture is to advise to pull back, not push, & be cautious.

The only way this happened was with the dedicated staff surrounding us. For every member that slept out, there were staff rallying out there too.

They are major public servants." / Twitter
noting
Ayanna Pressley on Twitter: "Our movement met the moment with organizing & radical love. ...." / Twitter

Our movement met the moment with organizing & radical love. As you lift up MOC who held the line to #ExtendTheMoratorium, please include our indefatigable staff. We could do none of this without them.

Thank you to my #ATeam You Work, do good & seek justice. You deliver resources, relief & hope to the #MA7th You've made innumerable personal sacrifices during a govt shut down, impeachment, a pandemic, insurrection &
more. Thank you for always having the peoples back & mine too.

If dig deep was a person S/O to the dedicated staffs of @CoriBush @AyannaPressley @AOC @IlhanMN @SaraJacobsCA @JamaalBowmanNY @MondaireJones @JimmyGomezCA @MarkTakano @MaxineWaters @RashidaTlaib @PramilaJayapal et al who believe in activist leadership & know that #changecantwait

The Damage Report on Twitter: "“You cannot underestimate having diversity among our elected officials - having people understand what it’s like to be homeless, to be gay, seeking an abortion, to be all these things, have real lived experiences - that means a lot.”
@Franifio on representation in the government (vid link)" / Twitter
then
francesca fiorentini on Twitter: "Stay for the spot on Paul Ryan impression" / Twitter

She mocked that Republican Congressmember for saying something like "I worked at a McDonald's for a summer".

Direct experience is not universally practical, but it can be helpful.

 

[TV and credit cards]

Not this landlord. No help for the small fry landlord in Missouri. No help for a lot of other landlords mentioned in OP either.

Trausti is exactly right. And most interesting of all is that it's the Democrats who seem to be in favor of further wiping out the middle class.

How else to explain their bending over backwards to apologize for the violation of rule of law? People can be poor and they can be rich without violence. It is when the government steps in to create unfair conditions when the public becomes ripe for revolution.

Democrat Joe Biden’s Democrat administration made available funds to the states. Your Republican Missouri government has these federal dollars earmarked for landlords. It is up to Missouri Republicans to disburse it. If they are not doing that it is because Republicans are dicks.

But why should the landlord be punished for that?

They should not be punished. The states need to get off their duffs and make these federal dollars they’re holding available without undue burden.

The focus should not be on those renters who would take advantage of the situation by simply not paying their rent, being deadbeats. During times of crisis it should be on getting the money out there and if it’s practical to do so, going after the deadbeats after the fact.

 

[lpetrich]

Abbas Alawieh on Twitter: "Back in St. Louis at a community vaccination event, Congresswoman @CoriBush hears from constituents:

“Thank you for sleeping on the steps!” (pic link)" / Twitter

She responded
Cori Bush on Twitter: "I’m so glad to be back home in St. Louis.

The love is overwhelming. My community knows there was no way we were going to let 8,700 of our neighbors—and millions more across our country—be put out of their homes during this pandemic.

Because housing is a human right." / Twitter

 

[lpetrich]

Rep. Tlaib Calls for House Democrats to Return Donations from Real Estate Tycoon | Democracy Now!
with a picture of her on the House floor giving a speech.

Democratic Congressmember Rashida Tlaib is calling on House Democrats to return recent contributions from real estate tycoon George Marcus, who recently donated $1 million to the House Majority PAC just weeks before Democratic lawmakers failed to extend the eviction moratorium.

Also has a picture of Cori Bush on the House steps. She is in a lawn chair as is someone else nearby. She has a thick blanket on her and near her are packages of snacks and pillows and water bottles and backpacks and the like.

 

[Derec]

Also has a picture of Cori Bush on the House steps. She is in a lawn chair as is someone else nearby. She has a thick blanket on her and near her are packages of snacks and pillows and water bottles and backpacks and the like.

I guess such a basic stunt is all it takes to cause the Biden administration to do something he knows is illegal.

Biden’s eviction moratorium defies the rule of law

The administration issued the order even while conceding that it lacked the Authority to do so.
The day before the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention imposed a new eviction moratorium last week, the Biden administration conceded that the agency had no legal authority to do so.
The fact that Joe Biden was unfazed by that crucial point does not bode well for a president who was supposed to restore respect for the rule of law.
“To date,” White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said in an Aug. 2 press release, “CDC Director Rochelle Walensky and her team have been unable to find legal authority for a new, targeted eviction moratorium.” Senior presidential adviser Gene Sperling used nearly identical language at a press briefing the same day, saying the CDC had concluded it lacked legal authority “even for a more targeted eviction moratorium that would focus just on counties with higher rates of COVID spread.” Walensky nevertheless issued such an order, covering about 90% of the country, the following evening, calling it “the right thing to do to keep people in their homes and out of congregate settings where COVID-19 spreads.” The idea that government officials can ignore the law as long as they are doing “the right thing,” long favored by authoritarians and demagogues, is anathema in a constitutional republic.

 

[Derec]

The love is overwhelming. My community knows there was no way we were going to let 8,700 of our neighbors—and millions more across our country—be put out of their homes during this pandemic.

It's not their homes. It's somebody else's real estate where they are now living without paying rent.

 

[Derec]

They should not be punished. The states need to get off their duffs and make these federal dollars they’re holding available without undue burden.

That is not a sustainable solution. The federal government should not be in the business of paying the rent of those who refuse to pay rent themselves.

This policy was probably the right thing to do early in the pandemic when much of the economy was shut down. Now, almost everything is reopened, and those who don't pay rent usually could pay it, just choose not to.
Landlord out $24,000 in rent due to eviction moratorium, says tenants buying boats

A North Carolina landlord says he is out $24,000 in unpaid rent from tenants, while one renter bought three boats over the course of the eviction moratorium just as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced a new ban that will last until Oct. 3.
[...]
"[The money] was used, they went and bought brand new boats, but I mean, you know in a time of crisis like what we’ve been through, you’re evidently getting money from somewhere, but it’s not getting to me," said Shoup.
[...]
Shoup was legally required to make the $4,500 repair on the residence but said he did not receive any money from the tenants or the government to cover the additional cost.

Even this pro-moratorium article mentions renters buying new TVs instead of paying rent.
Evicted, Despite a Federal Moratorium: ‘I Do Not Know What I am Going to Do’

Ron Scapellato, 54, a landlord in Clark County with 50 units and an air-conditioning business, said he soured on the moratorium after he watched some tenants spend their stimulus checks on new televisions rather than paying back rent. His mortgage and other bills continued to pile up, he said, so he went to court. “I understand that they do not want to throw people out, but I also want my rent,” he said.

The focus should not be on those renters who would take advantage of the situation by simply not paying their rent, being deadbeats. During times of crisis it should be on getting the money out there and if it’s practical to do so, going after the deadbeats after the fact.

The acute crisis has been over for a while really. Yes, there is a δ surge, but it has not lead to the economy being shut down like in Spring/Summer 2020.
We definitely need to be concerned about the deadbeats and freeloaders. Unfortunately, they have an powerful advocate in Cori Bush, because she is one of them.
Cori Bush, Democrat demanding eviction halt, was sued for not paying rent

 

[TV and credit cards]

The love is overwhelming. My community knows there was no way we were going to let 8,700 of our neighbors—and millions more across our country—be put out of their homes during this pandemic.

It's not their homes. It's somebody else's real estate where they are now living without paying rent.

It is the tenant’s home. It’s the landlord’s house (business).

 

[TV and credit cards]

That is not a sustainable solution. The federal government should not be in the business of paying the rent of those who refuse to pay rent themselves.

This policy was probably the right thing to do early in the pandemic when much of the economy was shut down. Now, almost everything is reopened, and those who don't pay rent usually could pay it, just choose not to.
Landlord out $24,000 in rent due to eviction moratorium, says tenants buying boats



Even this pro-moratorium article mentions renters buying new TVs instead of paying rent.
Evicted, Despite a Federal Moratorium: ‘I Do Not Know What I am Going to Do’

Ron Scapellato, 54, a landlord in Clark County with 50 units and an air-conditioning business, said he soured on the moratorium after he watched some tenants spend their stimulus checks on new televisions rather than paying back rent. His mortgage and other bills continued to pile up, he said, so he went to court. “I understand that they do not want to throw people out, but I also want my rent,” he said.

The focus should not be on those renters who would take advantage of the situation by simply not paying their rent, being deadbeats. During times of crisis it should be on getting the money out there and if it’s practical to do so, going after the deadbeats after the fact.

The acute crisis has been over for a while really. Yes, there is a δ surge, but it has not lead to the economy being shut down like in Spring/Summer 2020.
We definitely need to be concerned about the deadbeats and freeloaders. Unfortunately, they have an powerful advocate in Cori Bush, because she is one of them.
Cori Bush, Democrat demanding eviction halt, was sued for not paying rent

I’m not much for anecdotes anymore so I kind of skipped all that.

I know how you feel about renters who can not/will not pay. I know the song of Derec. I could have sung it for you without missing a note.

Have you nothing to say of the states who screwed over the landlords by having little to no program in place for landlords to get reimbursed for their lost rent? Not so much as one word of admonishment?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Landlord out $24,000 in rent due to eviction moratorium, says tenants buying boats

That's Faux Noise.

A tenant that actually did that would be horribly stupid--the eviction moratorium isn't a shield against debt collection.

 

[Derec]

That's Faux Noise.

Doesn't mean that they are lying. And in a NY Times piece supportive of the moratorium has tenants buy new TVs instead of paying rent. Not as brazen as boats, but still shows people misusing the moratorium to freeload.

A tenant that actually did that would be horribly stupid--

That's not an argument that it did not happen. People do stupid things all the damn time.

the eviction moratorium isn't a shield against debt collection.

But the moratorium would have to expire first, before the landlord can even attempt to collect back rent.

 

[Derec]

It is the tenant’s home. It’s the landlord’s house (business).

Semantics. In any case, it is not their property.

 

[Derec]

I’m not much for anecdotes anymore so I kind of skipped all that.

Barring actual disinterested studies on it, anecdotal data is all we have.

I know how you feel about renters who can not/will not pay.

There is a big difference between "can not" and "will not" pay. Why are you conflating them?
And how do you feel about renters who will not pay?

Have you nothing to say of the states who screwed over the landlords by having little to no program in place for landlords to get reimbursed for their lost rent? Not so much as one word of admonishment?

Of course those funds should be distributed more efficiently. The point is that the moratorium should have been ended months ago, and then these programs would not be needed to this extent.