Rittenhouse/Kenosha Shooting Split

[Trausti]

This trial gonna red pill a lot of folks.

 

[ZiprHead]

Kyle Rittenhouse was recorded weeks before the Kenosha shooting saying he wished he 'had my f---ing AR' to shoot at people leaving CVS, prosecutors say

Prosecutors said a newly surfaced video taken just weeks before last year's deadly Kenosha shootings captured the Illinois teenager Kyle Rittenhouse describing his wish to shoot at people with an AR-15 as they left a pharmacy.

According to court documents obtained by Insider, prosecutors are seeking to have the judge admit the video as evidence in Rittenhouse's upcoming trial. They said the video provided "crucial insight" into Rittenhouse's state of mind in summer 2020.

The 29-second video, which has been published by the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, does not show Rittenhouse's face. The video was apparently filmed across the street from a CVS Pharmacy, where several hooded people could be seen rushing out and clutching items.

 

[none]

but he "cried"

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

So, he'll walk.
And like every teen that gets away with shit, he'll beging to believe he's untouchable.
He'll go on to start taking pot shots at demonstrations, Democrat campaign busses, or some such.
Until his next crime is so egregious even Trump as the Judge couldn't get him off.

Are you kidding? Your description may fit someone like George Zimmerman, but do you think Rittenhouse's crying was feigned? Would it not be, somehow immoral to cry tears like that, and then return, almost donning a cape to be a vigilante?

He didn't cry. That wasn't spontaneous. He was being questioned by the Defense. And all of that questioning is practiced. High profile defense case like this, being questioned by his own attorney, it is theater.

This was nothing but a dirty ploy to make it seem that Rittenhouse is anything but a sociopath, who allegedly went to Kenosha to help as an EMT, yet ended up shooting three people and not even confessing about his self defense shootings to the cops he talked to immediately after the shooting.

What did you think about Christine Blasey-Ford's crying/pouting during the Kavenaugh hearing? Real or fake?

People on Fox News were compelled by it.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

This trial gonna red pill a lot of folks.

Uninformed citizen complains that she is badly uninformed and blames other people for it.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Our culture is very interesting. A white male who killed people is being compared to a sexual assault victim. It is interesting how things get turned around based on conservative identity politics. Most recently Lebron James commented on Rittenhouse seemingly fake crying (this, in context of the photo of KR being very non-remorseful and flashing the OK symbol) and now Lebron is accused of race baiting.

 

[thebeave]

So, he'll walk.
And like every teen that gets away with shit, he'll beging to believe he's untouchable.
He'll go on to start taking pot shots at demonstrations, Democrat campaign busses, or some such.
Until his next crime is so egregious even Trump as the Judge couldn't get him off.

Are you kidding? Your description may fit someone like George Zimmerman, but do you think Rittenhouse's crying was feigned? Would it not be, somehow immoral to cry tears like that, and then return, almost donning a cape to be a vigilante?

He didn't cry. That wasn't spontaneous. He was being questioned by the Defense. And all of that questioning is practiced. High profile defense case like this, being questioned by his own attorney, it is theater.

This was nothing but a dirty ploy to make it seem that Rittenhouse is anything but a sociopath, who allegedly went to Kenosha to help as an EMT, yet ended up shooting three people and not even confessing about his self defense shootings to the cops he talked to immediately after the shooting.

What did you think about Christine Blasey-Ford's crying/pouting during the Kavenaugh hearing? Real or fake?

People on Fox News were compelled by it.

And no one else was? Anyway, that doesn't really answer my question. I guess I can go look at that thread and see for myself what you wrote, but I think I know the answer based on your evasiveness to my question.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

So, he'll walk.
And like every teen that gets away with shit, he'll beging to believe he's untouchable.
He'll go on to start taking pot shots at demonstrations, Democrat campaign busses, or some such.
Until his next crime is so egregious even Trump as the Judge couldn't get him off.

Are you kidding? Your description may fit someone like George Zimmerman, but do you think Rittenhouse's crying was feigned? Would it not be, somehow immoral to cry tears like that, and then return, almost donning a cape to be a vigilante?

He didn't cry. That wasn't spontaneous. He was being questioned by the Defense. And all of that questioning is practiced. High profile defense case like this, being questioned by his own attorney, it is theater.

This was nothing but a dirty ploy to make it seem that Rittenhouse is anything but a sociopath, who allegedly went to Kenosha to help as an EMT, yet ended up shooting three people and not even confessing about his self defense shootings to the cops he talked to immediately after the shooting.

What did you think about Christine Blasey-Ford's crying/pouting during the Kavenaugh hearing? Real or fake?

People on Fox News were compelled by it.

And no one else was?

Well the GOP certainly was. Then changed their tactics after lunch because they knew she was very convincing. If she were lying, it was remarkably believable!

Anyway, that doesn't really answer my question. I guess I can go look at that thread and see for myself what you wrote, but I think I know the answer based on your evasiveness to my question.

Her testimony was very believable... and not because of any crying. It included tidbits that would have been hard to have lied about. And as I noted above, the GOP and Fox News both knew her testimony was convincing. That is why the GOP stopped treating it like a hearing with testimony and simply went on a rage angle about how evil the Democrats were.

Rittenhouse, took a footballer dive and looked at the ref (Judge). He was being questioned by his own attorney, something that would have been rehearsed, so spontaneous crying not expected.

The comparison between the two, is so juvenile it is hard to believe someone would make such a comparison. The only parallel is that Rittenhouse is trying to sell the narrative that he was the one who suffered trauma that night.

 

[Patooka]

And like every teen that gets away with shit, he'll beging to believe he's untouchable.
He'll go on to start taking pot shots at demonstrations, Democrat campaign busses, or some such.
Until his next crime is so egregious even Trump as the Judge couldn't get him off.

Rittenhouse isn't the problem. Or should I say he isn't the main problem.

How many cunts who should never be near a loaded gun are going to see the OAN/Newsmax translation of this case, become inspired and go out to emulate Rittenhouse? Except because they are cunts, they are going to do it juuussst a little "better"?

EDIT: Just to be clear, what I'm asking should have no impact on Rittenhouse's guilt or innocence. Nobody involved in this trial should ever feel any obligation to answer what I just asked. The usual suspects who are trying to turn this into a societal thing (much like George Floyd, but mirrored), definitely need to take a moment of self reflection.

 

[KeepTalking]

Rittenhouse isn't the problem. Or should I say he isn't the main problem.

How many cunts who should never be near a loaded gun are going to see the OAN/Newsmax translation of this case, become inspired and go out to emulate Rittenhouse? Except because they are cunts, they are going to do it juuussst a little "better"?

I was thinking along similar lines. If Rittenhouse is not held accountable in some way, I think we are going to see a number of these yahoos wading into protests with their strap on AR 15s so they can hunt "antifas". Given that it appears to me that the judge is acting as a part of the defense team, I see very little chance of Rittenhouse being held accountable.

 

[Patooka]

Seriously? You think that was incoherent? Do you understand how serious what the prosecution did here is?

Fuck yeah that was incoherent. The judge didn't explain what the prosecutor did wrong or the precedents involved. I have no idea what the prosecutor did as that context wasn't provided and the Judge's rant didn't help. So yeah, incoherent.

 

[Patooka]

I was thinking along similar lines. If Rittenhouse is not held accountable in some way,

That can too easily turn to making a scapegoat. Personally, I would have thought manslaughter is appropriate, but more importantly the adults who gave Rittenhouse the equipment to orchestrate this definitely need to be called to account. I guarantee the next Rittenhouse will be groomed by people who should fucking know better. I mean an argument can be made right wingers are making literal child soldiers in their culture war against CRT and Big Bird.

 

[ZiprHead]

Seriously? You think that was incoherent? Do you understand how serious what the prosecution did here is?

Fuck yeah that was incoherent. The judge didn't explain what the prosecutor did wrong or the precedents involved. I have no idea what the prosecutor did as that context wasn't provided and the Judge's rant didn't help. So yeah, incoherent.

I understand it. The prosecutor tried to get a line of questioning in use that had already been barred by the judge. The reasoning behind wanting to get it used based on previous testimony was imho quite valid, but he should have asked first. That was the problem. If he had asked first the judge might have agreed but pissing a judge off by defying orders isn't a good way to accomplish that.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

I was thinking along similar lines. If Rittenhouse is not held accountable in some way,

That can too easily turn to making a scapegoat. Personally, I would have thought manslaughter is appropriate, but more importantly the adults who gave Rittenhouse the equipment to orchestrate this definitely need to be called to account. I guarantee the next Rittenhouse will be groomed by people who should fucking know better. I mean an argument can be made right wingers are making literal child soldiers in their culture war against CRT, covid mask sex toys, and Big Bird.

FIFY.

 

[KeepTalking]

I was thinking along similar lines. If Rittenhouse is not held accountable in some way,

That can too easily turn to making a scapegoat. Personally, I would have thought manslaughter is appropriate, but more importantly the adults who gave Rittenhouse the equipment to orchestrate this definitely need to be called to account. I guarantee the next Rittenhouse will be groomed by people who should fucking know better. I mean an argument can be made right wingers are making literal child soldiers in their culture war against CRT and Big Bird.

I don't really think that holding people accountable for their actions is scapegoating. I do also believe that whoever supplied the weapon to Rittenhouse should be facing charges.

 

[ZiprHead]

MAGA Judge.

 

[Patooka]

I understand it. The prosecutor tried to get a line of questioning in use that had already been barred by the judge. The reasoning behind wanting to get it used based on previous testimony was imho quite valid, but he should have asked first. That was the problem. If he had asked first the judge might have agreed but pissing a judge off by defying orders isn't a good way to accomplish that.

Ok, then in that case this guy should never had been put in the position of judge in the first place. Of all the people involved in a trial (prosecutor, defence, clerk, jury etc) the judge must be held to the strictest standards that quite frankly disqualify a significant amount of people to do the job. This guy clearly lacks the self control required to do his job adequately.

 

[blastula]

The jury wasn't in the room, it's not a big deal. The prosecutor earned it.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Fact checking Kyle Rittenhouse’s testimony in Kenosha murder trial​

There is not really a lot of meat to this article and at first glance, the things they are covering seem pretty insignificant. However, they do speak to dishonesty and when one considers further and in the greater context, his motivations maybe are illuminated by where and when he makes up stories.

 

[blastula]

He didn't cry. That wasn't spontaneous. He was being questioned by the Defense. And all of that questioning is practiced. High profile defense case like this, being questioned by his own attorney, it is theater.

This was nothing but a dirty ploy to make it seem that Rittenhouse is anything but a sociopath, who allegedly went to Kenosha to help as an EMT,

Agreed. I watched all his testimony, and it was all very rehearsed with his attorney (including his lie that he was only being sarcastic when he admitted on video earlier that night that he pointed his gun at someone), and lots of canned sound bites to the prosecutor (like "If Rosenbaum took my gun, he would have killed me with it and probably killed more people too"). One of the things Binger was yelled at by the judge for was for starting to ask him how this testimony is the first time he's given his story publicly since that night, which would be questioning his right to remain silent. Binger wanted to show that KR has had all this time to watch all the various videos and commentary and trial testimony since then to now tailor his answers to, which is true (not just in this case, of course), even if he can't say it out loud to the jury. KR didn't give a police interview that night that would have locked him into anything. If he had given an interview then, I'm sure his answers would be much different. And which is a good lesson why you NEVER TALK TO THE POLICE.

For example, when KR would be testifying about things he heard said in the street, it's obvious most of it was just from he what he saw on video, not things he remembers hearing himself. In fact, he had testified to Binger that he KR the hero EMT™ didn't stop to help Rosenbaum after he had shot him (when he instead called a friend, not 911, and took off) was because people were yelling "get him" and so he had to run for his safety. But Binger played video showing nobody was saying that then.

I am wondering now about whether sociopathy is why he is even testifying, that the choice to take the stand was likely his idea alone against the wishes of his attorneys.

yet ended up shooting three people and not even confessing about his self defense shootings to the cops he talked to immediately after the shooting.

Disagree on that part, he did go up to the police, and they peppered sprayed him and told him to leave.

Kenosha police officer explains why he didn't arrest Kyle Rittenhouse when he tried to surrender after the shootings

A viral video showed officers ignoring Kyle Rittenhouse. One officer said he could still hear gunfire and thought an active shooter was elsewhere.

www.insider.com