China's Warning to the World

[Thomas II]

https://apnews.com/article/canada-china-united-states-nova-scotia-65a5b9ed478ce61adea4cfd52a5bc6d9

 

[Derec]

You really think that Afghanistan defeated the US. Who did this? The Taliban? Under what metric?

Under the metric that Biden hastily withdrew US forces from there and the Taliban took power. What metric do you propose?

And you honestly believe that the Chinese government believes in family values? Seriously?

I don't. But China (and many others) will be eating our lunch in a couple of decades if we do not stop this woke nonsense.
You have states like California saying that because blacks and hispanics are not that good in math. Algebra and Calculus should be deemphasized while so-called "social justice" should be incorporated into math education. Politicizing math and science will not help US in 21st century global competition. Quite the opposite!

California educators battle over woke math

Have you heard of Peng Shuai?

Isn't that when you rearrange all your furniture to help some imaginary energy fluid flow better around it or something?

 

[Harry Bosch]

You really think that Afghanistan defeated the US. Who did this? The Taliban? Under what metric?

Under the metric that Biden hastily withdrew US forces from there and the Taliban took power. What metric do you propose?

And you honestly believe that the Chinese government believes in family values? Seriously?

I don't. But China (and many others) will be eating our lunch in a couple of decades if we do not stop this woke nonsense.
You have states like California saying that because blacks and hispanics are not that good in math. Algebra and Calculus should be deemphasized while so-called "social justice" should be incorporated into math education. Politicizing math and science will not help US in 21st century global competition. Quite the opposite!

California educators battle over woke math

Have you heard of Peng Shuai?

Isn't that when you rearrange all your furniture to help some imaginary energy fluid flow better around it or something?

No, I don't consider a withdraw to be a military defeat. Do you consider Trump's withdraw from Syria to be a US defeat? By this Trumpian definition we were also defeated by Mexico, Spain, Chille, Cuba, Panama, Libya and the mighty country of Cameroon!

 

[funinspace]

You really think that Afghanistan defeated the US. Who did this? The Taliban? Under what metric?

Under the metric that Biden hastily withdrew US forces from there and the Taliban took power. What metric do you propose?

And you honestly believe that the Chinese government believes in family values? Seriously?

I don't. But China (and many others) will be eating our lunch in a couple of decades if we do not stop this woke nonsense.
You have states like California saying that because blacks and hispanics are not that good in math. Algebra and Calculus should be deemphasized while so-called "social justice" should be incorporated into math education. Politicizing math and science will not help US in 21st century global competition. Quite the opposite!

California educators battle over woke math

Have you heard of Peng Shuai?

Isn't that when you rearrange all your furniture to help some imaginary energy fluid flow better around it or something?

No, I don't consider a withdraw to be a military defeat. Do you consider Trump's withdraw from Syria to be a US defeat? By this Trumpian definition we were also defeated by Mexico, Spain, Chille, Cuba, Panama, Libya and the mighty country of Cameroon!

Yep! A fiasco, a huge flush of resources, et.al., but hardly a defeat, but to Neocon nation building fantasies.

But hey, the Taliban have some hardcore family values, and they take it seriously (no woke allowed), so the alt-right should be happy that the Taliban are in charge...

 

[Derec]

(no woke allowed),

Are you kidding me? The Taliban are hyperwoke.

 

[ZiprHead]

(no woke allowed),

Are you kidding me? The Taliban are hyperwoke.

The standard definition of woke being spread around here is basically people complaining about something but not being willing to do anything about it. How does that apply to the Taliban?

 

[funinspace]

(no woke allowed),

Are you kidding me? The Taliban are hyperwoke.

LOL...If I didn't know your posts that well, I'd think you were making a joke...alas

Definition of woke | Dictionary.com

The definition of Woke is a simple past tense of wake1. See additional meanings and similar words.

www.dictionary.com

"having or marked by an active awareness of systemic injustices and prejudices, especially those related to civil and human rights:"

 

[Angra Mainyu]

(no woke allowed),

Are you kidding me? The Taliban are hyperwoke.

How are they Woke?

For example:

Afghanistan: Taliban unveil new rules banning women in TV dramas

The Islamist group unveils new rules including ordering female TV presenters to wear headscarves.

www.bbc.com

That seems to be clearly against Woke beliefs (not all Woke beliefs are wrong).

 

[Loren Pechtel]

But you don't need to. Conquer the coastal cities and the few people living inland will come to their senses pretty soon. The only substantial population center not on the coast itself is Canberra and it's not that far inland.

Until you can make a convincing case that China can transport the necessary military personnel to conquer those coastal cities, your position is risible.

You expect them to play by the rules? Send them on freighters in peacetime. Declare war when they are already in port.

You could even have them at the 12 mile limit, there wouldn't be time to scramble naval strike aircraft.

 

[laughing dog]

But you don't need to. Conquer the coastal cities and the few people living inland will come to their senses pretty soon. The only substantial population center not on the coast itself is Canberra and it's not that far inland.

Until you can make a convincing case that China can transport the necessary military personnel to conquer those coastal cities, your position is risible.

You expect them to play by the rules? Send them on freighters in peacetime. Declare war when they are already in port.

You could even have them at the 12 mile limit, there wouldn't be time to scramble naval strike aircraft.

It would take an armada of "freighters" to transport sufficient troops which would be noticed. Really, your argument is ridiculous.

 

[Derec]

That seems to be clearly against Woke beliefs (not all Woke beliefs are wrong).

"Wokeism" is all about identity politics. Taliban are woke, but they are a different flavor of woke.

 

[laughing dog]

That seems to be clearly against Woke beliefs (not all Woke beliefs are wrong).

"Wokeism" is all about identity politics. Taliban are woke, but they are a different flavor of woke.

So the alt-right is "woke". LMAO.

 

[Trausti]

That seems to be clearly against Woke beliefs (not all Woke beliefs are wrong).

"Wokeism" is all about identity politics. Taliban are woke, but they are a different flavor of woke.

Well, Wokeism is really about anti-White and anti-West. Taliban may not be anti-White but they're certainly anti-West.

 

[Derec]

LOL...If I didn't know your posts that well, I'd think you were making a joke...alas

Kind of, but not really. Of course I do not think they share many beliefs (such as feminism) with western wokes. But on a more fundamental level, something not captured in the dictionary definition you posted, wokeism is all about identity politics. And in that sense, US-wokes and the Taliban are rather similar. Both are about identity politics and collective action over self-determination of the individual.

 

[Derec]

The standard definition of woke being spread around here is basically people complaining about something but not being willing to do anything about it. How does that apply to the Taliban?

But wokes did do a lot. They burned down a lot of businesses in 2020 in the name of wokeism. Taliban also did a lot of destroying for their beliefs.

 

[Derec]

No, I don't consider a withdraw to be a military defeat.

A military withdrawal where the enemy you ousted 20 years earlier triumphantly comes back into power is a defeat by any definition.

Do you consider Trump's withdraw from Syria to be a US defeat?

I think US actions re fight against the Caliphate were a success.
US actions re geopolitical threat of Russia and Iran were certainly not.

By this Trumpian definition we were also defeated by Mexico, Spain, Chille, Cuba, Panama, Libya and the mighty country of Cameroon!

How so? It's more comparable to Vietnam.

 

[Derec]

So the alt-right is "woke". LMAO.

Yes, you are slowly starting to get it.
This is why I am not right, alt or otherwise.

 

[Angra Mainyu]

That seems to be clearly against Woke beliefs (not all Woke beliefs are wrong).

"Wokeism" is all about identity politics. Taliban are woke, but they are a different flavor of woke.

Well, Wokeism is really about anti-White and anti-West. Taliban may not be anti-White but they're certainly anti-West.

Xi is also against the West, but not at all Woke. And there are plenty of movements using "identity politics" that are not Woke, in the sense the word is generally used here; "Woke" is defined by ostension - one of those, not one of the others. And the Taliban seem to be about the others as far as I can tell.

 

[Patooka]

It would take an armada of "freighters" to transport sufficient troops which would be noticed. Really, your argument is ridiculous.

Coupled with the fact Australia loses its collective shit whenever only one of these enters its waters :

unless those freighters are equipped with Romulan cloaking devices, someone's gonna notice.

 

[Harry Bosch]

No, I don't consider a withdraw to be a military defeat.

A military withdrawal where the enemy you ousted 20 years earlier triumphantly comes back into power is a defeat by any definition.

Do you consider Trump's withdraw from Syria to be a US defeat?

I think US actions re fight against the Caliphate were a success.
US actions re geopolitical threat of Russia and Iran were certainly not.

By this Trumpian definition we were also defeated by Mexico, Spain, Chille, Cuba, Panama, Libya and the mighty country of Cameroon!

How so? It's more comparable to Vietnam.

You're moving goal posts here. ISIS hasn't been totally defeated either. If Trump had pulled out of Afghanistan as he wanted to, would you have considered it a military defeat?