Police Misconduct Catch All Thread

[Elixir]

Three Men Sentenced to Life in Prison in Arbery Killing

"A Georgia judge on Friday sentenced both Travis McMichael, the man who fatally shot Ahmaud Arbery, and his father to life in prison without the possibility of parole, but issued a lesser sentence of life with the possibility of parole to the other white man convicted of murdering Mr. Arbery, a 25-year-old Black man whom they had chased through their neighborhood."

Good.

 

[Gospel]

 

[Angry Floof]

Three Men Sentenced to Life in Prison in Arbery Killing

"A Georgia judge on Friday sentenced both Travis McMichael, the man who fatally shot Ahmaud Arbery, and his father to life in prison without the possibility of parole, but issued a lesser sentence of life with the possibility of parole to the other white man convicted of murdering Mr. Arbery, a 25-year-old Black man whom they had chased through their neighborhood."

Good.

This is weird. I heard that sentencing weeks ago. Was this article about a judgment on an appeal or something?

The other weird thing is that link went to an article about Merrick Garland.

 

[Angry Floof]

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Weezie looks like she's about to make that minutes instead of years.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

New HPD video shows officer speeding before killing pedestrian

Ofc. Orlando Hernandez, 25, was driving upwards of 80 mph along Reed Road, the video...

www.chron.com

Newly released body-camera footage shows the high-speed moments before a Houston cop drove his police cruiser onto a sidewalk Dec. 4 and killed 62-year-old Michael Wayne Jackson, who was walking to his barber.
Prosecutors have yet to present the case to a grand jury, Harris County district attorney's office spokesperson Dane Schiller said Monday. On Dec. 30, the Houston Police Department released two video clips from bodycams worn by driving officer Orlando Hernandez and his partner officer Anthony Aranda. Both officers are 25 years old with fewer than five years on the force and currently are listed as active duty, according to an HPD spokesperson.
Hernandez at times drove the 6,300-pound Ford Police Intercepter between 80 and 100 mph down Reed Road, according to the cruiser's speedometer shown in a five-minute clip from his bodycam. Traffic on Reed Road is limited to 40 mph. The cops were driving with lights and siren activated to help another officer apprehend five individuals allegedly involved in a carjacking who reportedly fled on foot after a short pursuit.

I don't think one hand had anything to do with the crash--he's going straight on a smooth surface. Unfortunately, that video doesn't give us any indication of what did cause the crash.

 

[ZiprHead]

New HPD video shows officer speeding before killing pedestrian

Ofc. Orlando Hernandez, 25, was driving upwards of 80 mph along Reed Road, the video...

www.chron.com

Newly released body-camera footage shows the high-speed moments before a Houston cop drove his police cruiser onto a sidewalk Dec. 4 and killed 62-year-old Michael Wayne Jackson, who was walking to his barber.
Prosecutors have yet to present the case to a grand jury, Harris County district attorney's office spokesperson Dane Schiller said Monday. On Dec. 30, the Houston Police Department released two video clips from bodycams worn by driving officer Orlando Hernandez and his partner officer Anthony Aranda. Both officers are 25 years old with fewer than five years on the force and currently are listed as active duty, according to an HPD spokesperson.
Hernandez at times drove the 6,300-pound Ford Police Intercepter between 80 and 100 mph down Reed Road, according to the cruiser's speedometer shown in a five-minute clip from his bodycam. Traffic on Reed Road is limited to 40 mph. The cops were driving with lights and siren activated to help another officer apprehend five individuals allegedly involved in a carjacking who reportedly fled on foot after a short pursuit.

I don't think one hand had anything to do with the crash--he's going straight on a smooth surface. Unfortunately, that video doesn't give us any indication of what did cause the crash.

Do you ever watch auto racing? Drivers running at the ragged edge of traction. Something as simple as a ripple in the track can make a car lose control. City streets are far less smooth than any race track. The cop was driving too fast for conditions. If he was an idiot in a Corvette you would say he was definitely at fault.

 

[ZiprHead]

California man says run-in with police left him paralyzed

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — A 65-year-old Northern California man was paralyzed after being slammed to the ground during a traffic stop where police officers used “pain compliance” techniques and expressed disbelief when he repeatedly cried out “I can’t feel my legs,” according to a lawsuit...

apnews.com

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — A 65-year-old Northern California man was paralyzed after being slammed to the ground during a traffic stop where police officers used “pain compliance” techniques and expressed disbelief when he repeatedly cried out “I can’t feel my legs,” according to a lawsuit announced Wednesday.

Police video released by lawyers for Gregory Gross shows the incident and his arrival at a hospital, where Gross is handcuffed to a bed, his nose bloodied.

“You want to grab his arms and flop him up on the bed?” someone asks after Gross tells a medical worker that he can’t feel his legs. They then do so while placing him in a sitting position without restraining his neck or spine.

“Don’t tell me again you can’t move,” a medical worker tells Gross later as he is prepared for a full body scan. Gross ultimately required two surgeries to fuse his spine. In separate lawsuits, Gross alleges the combination of police and medical misconduct left him unable to walk or care for himself, and he will require round-the-clock nursing care for the rest of his life.

 

[Trausti]

California man says run-in with police left him paralyzed

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — A 65-year-old Northern California man was paralyzed after being slammed to the ground during a traffic stop where police officers used “pain compliance” techniques and expressed disbelief when he repeatedly cried out “I can’t feel my legs,” according to a lawsuit...

apnews.com

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — A 65-year-old Northern California man was paralyzed after being slammed to the ground during a traffic stop where police officers used “pain compliance” techniques and expressed disbelief when he repeatedly cried out “I can’t feel my legs,” according to a lawsuit announced Wednesday.

Police video released by lawyers for Gregory Gross shows the incident and his arrival at a hospital, where Gross is handcuffed to a bed, his nose bloodied.

“You want to grab his arms and flop him up on the bed?” someone asks after Gross tells a medical worker that he can’t feel his legs. They then do so while placing him in a sitting position without restraining his neck or spine.

“Don’t tell me again you can’t move,” a medical worker tells Gross later as he is prepared for a full body scan. Gross ultimately required two surgeries to fuse his spine. In separate lawsuits, Gross alleges the combination of police and medical misconduct left him unable to walk or care for himself, and he will require round-the-clock nursing care for the rest of his life.

Why didn't he assert his White Privilege? Fool.

 

[Patooka]

California man says run-in with police left him paralyzed

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — A 65-year-old Northern California man was paralyzed after being slammed to the ground during a traffic stop where police officers used “pain compliance” techniques and expressed disbelief when he repeatedly cried out “I can’t feel my legs,” according to a lawsuit...

apnews.com

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — A 65-year-old Northern California man was paralyzed after being slammed to the ground during a traffic stop where police officers used “pain compliance” techniques and expressed disbelief when he repeatedly cried out “I can’t feel my legs,” according to a lawsuit announced Wednesday.

Police video released by lawyers for Gregory Gross shows the incident and his arrival at a hospital, where Gross is handcuffed to a bed, his nose bloodied.

“You want to grab his arms and flop him up on the bed?” someone asks after Gross tells a medical worker that he can’t feel his legs. They then do so while placing him in a sitting position without restraining his neck or spine.

“Don’t tell me again you can’t move,” a medical worker tells Gross later as he is prepared for a full body scan. Gross ultimately required two surgeries to fuse his spine. In separate lawsuits, Gross alleges the combination of police and medical misconduct left him unable to walk or care for himself, and he will require round-the-clock nursing care for the rest of his life.

Why didn't he assert his White Privilege? Fool.

He fucking was. Take all the time you need to imagine if he would be in any condition to sue if he wasn't white, genius.

 

[Trausti]

California man says run-in with police left him paralyzed

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — A 65-year-old Northern California man was paralyzed after being slammed to the ground during a traffic stop where police officers used “pain compliance” techniques and expressed disbelief when he repeatedly cried out “I can’t feel my legs,” according to a lawsuit...

apnews.com

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — A 65-year-old Northern California man was paralyzed after being slammed to the ground during a traffic stop where police officers used “pain compliance” techniques and expressed disbelief when he repeatedly cried out “I can’t feel my legs,” according to a lawsuit announced Wednesday.

Police video released by lawyers for Gregory Gross shows the incident and his arrival at a hospital, where Gross is handcuffed to a bed, his nose bloodied.

“You want to grab his arms and flop him up on the bed?” someone asks after Gross tells a medical worker that he can’t feel his legs. They then do so while placing him in a sitting position without restraining his neck or spine.

“Don’t tell me again you can’t move,” a medical worker tells Gross later as he is prepared for a full body scan. Gross ultimately required two surgeries to fuse his spine. In separate lawsuits, Gross alleges the combination of police and medical misconduct left him unable to walk or care for himself, and he will require round-the-clock nursing care for the rest of his life.

Why didn't he assert his White Privilege? Fool.

He fucking was. Take all the time you need to imagine if he would be in any condition to sue if he wasn't white, genius.

That doesn't make sense. If White Privilege gets you paralyzed, what use is it? Give us your genus take.

 

[Rhea]

Trausti’s constant outrage over discussions of civil rights issues and his repeated insertion of “but what about this one white guy!!11! White privilege doesn’t exist!!!!1!” makes one wonder about his sincerity.

But for those seeing this kind of comment for the first time, or who don’t understand why he brings these up, repeatedly, let’s explain.

Patooka’s point is that if the victim were black, they migt have been dead rather than paralyzed, for “failing to comply.” The instances of bad outcome are more commonly more severe for Black drivers (walkers, bikers, sitters on own sofa, etc). One has to be uncommonly obtuse to not see the data - OR - one has to have a confirmation bias that does not permit the data to penetrate. Sometimes that is termed “prejudice.”

However, the astute observer will see the pattern to replies in this and all threads, where some people will try to inject “what about this one white guy!!!1!!” at every opportunity in an atttempt to “prove” racism does not exist. As if the existence of one harmed white guy erases all trace of uneven justice and unequal treatment by law enforcement. They seem to think this is a strong argument. Perhaps they know it is not and they are just trying to disrupt and exhaust those who are facing great harm, in an effort to get them to accept inequality.

But if a person posts only “whataboutism” one can conclude that their arguments have little foundation.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Do you ever watch auto racing? Drivers running at the ragged edge of traction. Something as simple as a ripple in the track can make a car lose control. City streets are far less smooth than any race track. The cop was driving too fast for conditions. If he was an idiot in a Corvette you would say he was definitely at fault.

Too fast for conditions normally means you lost traction on a turn or the like. This guy was going straight. He might have been going too fast given the other traffic around but he didn't hit a car and he didn't crash avoiding a car.

Something caused him to go right and I see nothing in the video that says what. His speed would not have caused this, although it easily could be a factor in not being able to recover.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

California man says run-in with police left him paralyzed

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — A 65-year-old Northern California man was paralyzed after being slammed to the ground during a traffic stop where police officers used “pain compliance” techniques and expressed disbelief when he repeatedly cried out “I can’t feel my legs,” according to a lawsuit...

apnews.com

“Don’t tell me again you can’t move,” a medical worker tells Gross later as he is prepared for a full body scan. Gross ultimately required two surgeries to fuse his spine. In separate lawsuits, Gross alleges the combination of police and medical misconduct left him unable to walk or care for himself, and he will require round-the-clock nursing care for the rest of his life.

Pain compliance should be given some considerable scrutiny. There are tactics that won't cause serious injury but slamming someone to the ground doesn't fall into that category.

I don't understand not being able to care for himself, though--this is a leg issue. He's presumably in a chair for life but that doesn't make one unable to care for oneself.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Why didn't he assert his White Privilege? Fool.

He fucking was. Take all the time you need to imagine if he would be in any condition to sue if he wasn't white, genius.

That doesn't make sense. If White Privilege gets you paralyzed, what use is it? Give us your genus take.

Actually, I suspect white "privilege" has something to do with this. Specifically, useless defiance to the point that it provoked the cop to use force.

 

[ZiprHead]

Do you ever watch auto racing? Drivers running at the ragged edge of traction. Something as simple as a ripple in the track can make a car lose control. City streets are far less smooth than any race track. The cop was driving too fast for conditions. If he was an idiot in a Corvette you would say he was definitely at fault.

Too fast for conditions normally means you lost traction on a turn or the like. This guy was going straight. He might have been going too fast given the other traffic around but he didn't hit a car and he didn't crash avoiding a car.

Something caused him to go right and I see nothing in the video that says what. His speed would not have caused this, although it easily could be a factor in not being able to recover.

Sorry, but cars going straight can and do lose control at high speeds. Drag racers for example. No turns in a drag race but when running at the ragged edge even small things can cause catastrophe. Unless there was some problem with the car itself, the cop is at fault.

 

[thebeave]

I realize this event runs counter to the popular narrative of police officer behavior, but I'm often a contrarian sort of fellow so I figured I would throw this in here, despite risking backlash and claims of "whataboutism".

Officers pull pilot from crashed plane seconds before train slams into it

 

[Coleman Smith]

There are good cops and bad cops just like there are good people and bad people.

 

[ZiprHead]

There are good cops and bad cops just like there are good people and bad people.

I've posted good cop stories several times.

 

[Angry Floof]

There are good cops and bad cops just like there are good people and bad people.

Most people do not carry weapons or have badges that signify state sanctioning of whatever actions they want to take. The corruption runs deep, and the general civilian population is not a military equipped cult that dehumanizes anyone who is not a cop or a powerful citizen and everyone else is their enemy and probably going to commit crimes so they must stop them by any means necessary.

 

[Gospel]

California man says run-in with police left him paralyzed

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — A 65-year-old Northern California man was paralyzed after being slammed to the ground during a traffic stop where police officers used “pain compliance” techniques and expressed disbelief when he repeatedly cried out “I can’t feel my legs,” according to a lawsuit...

apnews.com

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — A 65-year-old Northern California man was paralyzed after being slammed to the ground during a traffic stop where police officers used “pain compliance” techniques and expressed disbelief when he repeatedly cried out “I can’t feel my legs,” according to a lawsuit announced Wednesday.

Police video released by lawyers for Gregory Gross shows the incident and his arrival at a hospital, where Gross is handcuffed to a bed, his nose bloodied.

“You want to grab his arms and flop him up on the bed?” someone asks after Gross tells a medical worker that he can’t feel his legs. They then do so while placing him in a sitting position without restraining his neck or spine.

“Don’t tell me again you can’t move,” a medical worker tells Gross later as he is prepared for a full body scan. Gross ultimately required two surgeries to fuse his spine. In separate lawsuits, Gross alleges the combination of police and medical misconduct left him unable to walk or care for himself, and he will require round-the-clock nursing care for the rest of his life.

Why didn't he assert his White Privilege? Fool.

He fucking was. Take all the time you need to imagine if he would be in any condition to sue if he wasn't white, genius.

That doesn't make sense. If White Privilege gets you paralyzed, what use is it? Give us your genus take.

His injuries are a result of a police force that has been given a lot of leeways to do what they do without scrutiny against minorities since its foundation. It's centuries of police culture handed down from generation to generation with whoever is the current out-group getting the most heat. Not too long ago (change is in progress) black people were the outgroup and police were the militia. Today they are drunk off the unconditional trust and it's spilling over onto white people since it's no longer cool to screw over black folks. White privilege is the reason the police force was corrupt and white privilege is the reason this man was injured. Comply or die for the minorities is now comply or die for everyone.