DrZoidberg
Contributor
Calling out Isreal for its actions is nit anti semetiic. I liste d to an Israeli woman on BBC who wrote a book n the conservative Jewish propaganda.
It's not. But calling out Israel for made up crimes is. I think what you are doing is well and truly antisemitism.
My ex wife was a Hungarian/Isreali Jew who moved to Israel and then left, because she thinks it's an ideological and political mess where neither side seems to have any interest in solving the conflict.
She gave me a pretty good insight into the conflict. She thought both sides sucked. She now prefers living in Sweden. She's an atheist and not the member of any temple.
At this point the Palestinians are behaving as if they own the place and have no reason to negotiate with the Israeli Jews. And that's been the situation since 1948. While the Jews, for good reason, sees this as an existential fight for the survival of the Jewish race, unrelated to the plight of the Palestinians. It's not an environment where where solutions are likely to come. The Jewish consensus since long ago is that negotiating with the Palestinians is a waste of time. And I think they're probably correct.
Most of what Israel does is just to minimize damage from Palestinians. If you could both to read about the situation for people living in Jerusalem you wouldn't see the wall as a war crime. Israelis is for most part just pragmatic.
It was obvious for a long time with Netanyahu who finaly sad on caera Israel has a god given right to tale land from Palestinians. The ultra conservative Israelis mirror American Christian conservatives.
He's also funded by American Christian conservative whack jobs. Netanyahu is a dick. I won't argue that.
An Israeli professor wrote a book on how the Jewish narrative of an unbroken line back to Moses is false. It was a best seller in Israel.
The Zionists who founded Israel were atheistic socialists. How much do you think they gave a shit about Moses? There are Orthodox Jews and other Jewish fanatics in Israel who are retarded, and most Israelis think they're annoying and stupid. My ex-wife's family had been atheists going back two generations.
What brings Jews together is above all the pervasive antisemitism of the gentiles rather than the Torah.
There is opposition in Israel, we only hear the conservative side /propaganda.
You do? It's not hard to find other voices. Netanyahu is no longer the president, for good reason.
As to ancient Hebrews, I had a thread on the 613 rules, one was an order to eradicate a rival group.
Nobody in Israel cares.
Jews are no different than anyone else.
Of course not. Of course they're like any other group of people. and now they're having to fight for their survival.
We can go back to the Israeli invasion of Egypt in concert with Europeans. At that time there was no cause for Israel.
Israel was in the lap of the Brits and dependent on British support for their survival. Of course they'd back up Great Britain.