Calling out Isreal for its actions is nit anti semetiic. I liste d to an Israeli woman on BBC who wrote a book n the conservative Jewish propaganda.
It was obvious for a long time with Netanyahu who finaly sad on caera Israel has a god given right to tale land from Palestinians. The ultra conservative Israelis mirror American Christian conservatives.
An Israeli professor wrote a book on how the Jewish narrative of an unbroken line back to Moses is false. It was a best seller in Israel.
There is opposition in Israel, we only hear the conservative side /propaganda.
As to ancient Hebrews, I had a thread on the 613 rules, one was an order to eradicate a rival group.
Jews are no different than anyone else.
We can go back to the Israeli invasion of Egypt in concert with Europeans. At that time there was no cause for Israel.
There are positives and negatives for Israel like any nation. Netanyahu was an Israeli Trump, now gone.
The founding of Israel as a safe haven for Jews post war is certainly understandable, but they still have to be accountable for actions.
Your description of events is absurdly simplistic. Netanyahu as a conservative has to juggle the whims and wishes of the religious whackjobs in his country. All Trump needed to do was to not be a Democrat. As long as he did that he'd have the support of the Evangelicals, no matter how many pussies he grabbed. Netanyahu didn't have that luxury. I too think Netanyahu is a terrible person. I am a liberal. But, come on. You're full on antisemtic propaganda on this guy. The western left has a strong antisemetic streak in it. Don't be those guys. You can criticize Israel for all their faults, (there's plenty of them) without resorting to the crazy accusations for fantasy crimes.
The Israeli constitution is a fully modern liberal democratic constitution that respects and protects basic human rights. While it's easy for Jews to get citizenship in Israel. It's not that hard for Palestinians with family connections to Israel to get citizenship either. It's like becoming a citizen in any western country.
In this debate I must take the side of Mr. Bank 100%. His description seemed objective and did not contain a bit of anti-Semitism. (Which complete sentence did you find anti-Semitic, Dr. Z?)
And to say that Israel "respects and protects basic human rights" is peculiarly wrong-headed ... unless you don't include the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank in the in-group of "humans."
All the shit about the Torah and how Jews use it to justify their actions. It's a complete fantasy. Israel is driven by one main narratives, the Holocaust. It's the completely true and accurate realisation that the Holocaust happened. Jews can't trust anybody other than themselves. Now the Jews have a land of their own, and they'd better do everything they can to hold onto it, because it's the only way to prevent another Holocaust, in at least one country where Jews live. And before the Holocaust Jews were the victims of pogroms and all manner of antisemitic nastiness.
The Zionist movement wasn't so much a project to dominate Palestine. It was a project to get away from antisemitic gentiles. Theodore Herzl was an atheistic socialist. He couldn't have given less of a shit about the Torah. And this was the core of the movement which managed to found the state of Israel. Notice how all the early Israeli leaders were all thoroughly secular. And this is still the case.
The religious Jews are getting increasing power in Israel, but that's because religious groups are extremely well funded by crazy nutjob American Evangelical movements, who want all the Jews to return to the holy land for the second coming of Christ.
When my ex wife moved to Israel in the 90'ies, as a university student, she could join a Jewish religious organization where she needed to show up for Torah study class an hour a week, and all her expenses would have been paid. She would have had free lodging and pocket money. She told them to fuck off and paid for her upkeep by working as a cleaner.
That's the problem in Israel. Israel is a cork in a sea of International politics just hanging on for dear life.
It can be compared to Islamophobes thinking all Muslims are monsters because they've found unsavory lines in the Quran. As if every Muslim is a fundamentalist.
I think Jews is still the ethnic group with the highest rates of atheism in the world.
Jews behaving badly in Israel aren't doing so because of the Torah. They're doing so because of Hitler They've received all the reminders they need that they can't afford to just chill and trust the charity of strangers. Steve not realizing this, and instead quote mining the Torah, I think sounds antisemitic.
