Toni said:
It didn’t matter that an elementary school was shot up, and six year olds were killed in their school. No reason to reconsider gun access.
It did matter to some people. It did not matter to others. And among those to whom it did matter, there was disagreement about whether reducing gun access would be overall better or worse. Demonizing one's opponents is easy, but it usually leads to false assessments.
Toni said:
It didn’t matter when a concert or a movie theater were shot up.
It did matter to some people. It did not matter to others. And among those to whom it did matter, there was disagreement about whether reducing gun access would be overall better or worse. Demonizing one's opponents is easy, but it usually leads to false assessments.
Toni said:
Lord knows nobody gives a fuck about murdered women.
Lord does not exist. However, of course many people care about murdered women. Demonizing one's opponents is easy, but it usually leads to false assessments.
Toni said:
People right here on this forum have suggested that black drug dealers shooting each other is no big deal.
Did they suggest that? Or did they suggest that drug dealers shooting each other is not a big deal? I do not know, so do you have a link please?
While it is true ' black drug dealers shooting each other is not a big deal' logically follows from ' drug dealers shooting each other is not a big deal', but in context, the addition of 'black' amounts to an accusation of racism that is...a way of demonizing one's opponent, regardless of what they say.
Toni said:
Maybe middle class white guys shooting out over some road rage will wake people up.
First, again the addition of 'white'. Maybe these two were not both white. But it doesn't matter; the point is that you bring race up.
Second, you say
Toni said:
This incident surely illustrates the insanity of such open and unfettered access to firearms.
I mean, white men are getting shot at in public streets! This is an emergency!
But if you read what your usual opponents on the matter or generally gun rights advocates generally say, you would not think they generally will be persuaded by that at all.
Third, again,
this has happened since America exists (and before), and that surely did not convince any of the above, there is no good reason to even suspect this might.