Federal judge ruled Trump probably guilty of felonies!

[southernhybrid]

nytimes.com/2022/03/28/us/politics/trump-election-crimes.html?unlocked_article_code=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuomT1JKd6J17Vw1cRCfTTMQmqxCdw_PIxftm3iWka3DODmwSiPkORJCH_0bRZKF4IMcpwjGDAdJFPbQzRft0i-RFPklgUE-ovp6A0twjEhkClLiSD

WASHINGTON — A federal judge ruled on Monday that former President Donald J. Trump and a lawyer who advised him on how to overturn the 2020 election most likely committed felonies, including obstructing the work of Congress and conspiring to defraud the United States.
The judge’s comments marked a significant breakthrough for the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, which had laid out in a civil filing the crimes it believed Mr. Trump might have committed as it weighs making a criminal referral to the Justice Department.
“The illegality of the plan was obvious,” wrote Judge David O. Carter of the Central District of California. “Our nation was founded on the peaceful transition of power, epitomized by George Washington laying down his sword to make way for democratic elections. Ignoring this history, President Trump vigorously campaigned for the vice president to single-handedly determine the results of the 2020 election.”
The Justice Department has been conducting a wide-ranging investigation of the Capitol assault but has given no public indication that it is considering pursuing a criminal case against Mr. Trump. A criminal referral from the House committee could increase pressure on Attorney General Merrick B. Garland to do so.

Finally! Will it go anywhere?

 

[southernhybrid]

I found an article from WaPo that gives more details.

https://wapo.st/3LnZvuE

The 44-page opinion offers a careful analysis of 111 documents the committee wanted, ultimately concluding that lawmakers are entitled to have 101 of them.
But it is less notable for what it might given the committee access to and more for the judge’s analysis of Trump’s conduct leading up to the riot on Jan. 6.
Breaking down the law on each point, Carter, who sits on the Central District of California and was nominated by President Bill Clinton, writes it is “more likely than not” that Trump and Eastman conspired to disrupt the counting of the electoral votes on Jan. 6 — which would be a crime under federal statutes.
“Dr. Eastman and President Trump launched a campaign to overturn a democratic election, an action unprecedented in American history,” the judge concludes. “Their campaign was not confined to the ivory tower — it was a coup in search of a legal theory. The plan spurred violent attacks on the seat of our nation’s government, led to the deaths of several law enforcement officers, and deepened public distrust in our political process.”

You all should be able to read the entire article, although I'm sure this will be in other news sources soon.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Wel

nytimes.com/2022/03/28/us/politics/trump-election-crimes.html?unlocked_article_code=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuomT1JKd6J17Vw1cRCfTTMQmqxCdw_PIxftm3iWka3DODmwSiPkORJCH_0bRZKF4IMcpwjGDAdJFPbQzRft0i-RFPklgUE-ovp6A0twjEhkClLiSD

WASHINGTON — A federal judge ruled on Monday that former President Donald J. Trump and a lawyer who advised him on how to overturn the 2020 election most likely committed felonies, including obstructing the work of Congress and conspiring to defraud the United States.
The judge’s comments marked a significant breakthrough for the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, which had laid out in a civil filing the crimes it believed Mr. Trump might have committed as it weighs making a criminal referral to the Justice Department.
“The illegality of the plan was obvious,” wrote Judge David O. Carter of the Central District of California. “Our nation was founded on the peaceful transition of power, epitomized by George Washington laying down his sword to make way for democratic elections. Ignoring this history, President Trump vigorously campaigned for the vice president to single-handedly determine the results of the 2020 election.”
The Justice Department has been conducting a wide-ranging investigation of the Capitol assault but has given no public indication that it is considering pursuing a criminal case against Mr. Trump. A criminal referral from the House committee could increase pressure on Attorney General Merrick B. Garland to do so.

Finally! Will it go anywhere?

The other day, Gaetz promised to nominate Trump for Speaker of the House. That might help Garland see he hadn't got 3 more years to make sure hsi case is solid before indicting. And this decision might help show he doesn't need all three years.

 

[Copernicus]

I feel like I'm living in the tale of  The Emperor's New Clothes. Everyone can see that Trump is liable for all sorts of criminal charges, but nobody empowered to bring them wants to notice. Now this judge cries out from the crowd that Trump's criminal behavior is nakedly obvious, but he only considers making a criminal referral. He knows that AG Garland is interested in investigating, but not prosecuting. It would be a crap shoot to call a jury that wouldn't turn a blind eye to any crime Donald Trump had committed. Trump may pay a fine here or there, but he is basically above the law when it comes to criminal charges. His wrist has grown calloused from all the slaps on it he has gotten in the past.

 

[Keith&Co.]

I feel like I'm living in the tale of  The Emperor's New Clothes. Everyone can see that Trump is liable for all sorts of criminal charges, but nobody empowered to bring them wants to notice. Now this judge cries out from the crowd that Trump's criminal behavior is nakedly obvious, but he only considers making a criminal referral.

That's more than he'd been asked to do. He reviewed 111 documents for release the panel, and released 102 of them. In addition to that, as the guy that just read all those doc's, he mentioned that it's pretty fucking clear. If he had actually decided, that would be the judicial activision the Right keeps crying about.

He knows that AG Garland is interested in investigating, but not prosecuting.

I htink Garland is very interested in prosecuting, but wants to do anything he can to avoid it being dismissed as politics. Which it will be, anyway.

It would be a crap shoot to call a jury that wouldn't turn a blind eye to any crime Donald Trump had committed.

I dunno. His influence isi waning. His teflon is scratched. There are still a number of people beneath him to be prosecuted, and they tend to work upstream on this. By the time the bring Trump to court, there will be ample evidence, a series of convictions, and I expect a raft of people suddenly trying to distance themselves from his orbit.
I try to imagine my uncle in the jury box. He's not an idiot, for all that he hasn't actually USED that brain to critically examine certain truths he holds dear. He might sit, stunned, in the box, and eventually... turn. from 'Can do no wrong' to 'hang him from the statue of liberty!'

 

[Copernicus]

...I try to imagine my uncle in the jury box. He's not an idiot, for all that he hasn't actually USED that brain to critically examine certain truths he holds dear. He might sit, stunned, in the box, and eventually... turn. from 'Can do no wrong' to 'hang him from the statue of liberty!'

A nice fantasy. I've lived long enough to become very cynical about people facing up to reality. Remember "If it doesn't fit, you must acquit!" Long, drawn-out, slow walks to a conviction don't always end well. I think that Garland would prefer to be retired when the jury is chosen.

 

[starwater]

No one wants to be the first. NYC is hemming and hawing, and now we are getting a probably likely. I wish someone would step up and just put forth criminal charges.

 

[ZiprHead]

State Department: WH gift records for Trump, Pence missing

WASHINGTON (AP) — The State Department says it is unable to compile a complete and accurate accounting of gifts presented to former President Donald Trump and other U.S. officials by foreign governments during Trump’s final year in office, citing missing data from the White House.

www.thestar.com

WASHINGTON (AP) — The State Department says it is unable to compile a complete and accurate accounting of gifts presented to former President Donald Trump and other U.S. officials by foreign governments during Trump’s final year in office, citing missing data from the White House.

In a report to be published in the Federal Register next week, the department says the Executive Office of the President did not submit information about gifts received by Trump and his family from foreign leaders in 2020. It also says the General Services Administration didn’t submit information about gifts given to former Vice President Mike Pence and White House staffers that year.

The State Department said it sought the missing information from National Archives and Records Administration and the General Services Administration, but was told that “potentially relevant records” are not available because of access restrictions related to retired records.



The State Department’s Office of Protocol reported the situation in footnotes to a partial list of gifts received by U.S. officials in 2020. The office publishes such lists annually in part to guard against potential conflicts of interest. A preview of the 2020 report was posted on the Federal Register website on Friday ahead of its formal publication on Monday.

 

[Politesse]

"Likely" = nothing will be done.

 

[jab]

"Likely" = nothing will be done.

alas and alack for America

 

[Gospel]

I don't think we should press the button yet.

 

[ZiprHead]

Glenn Kirshner is pretty confident that the DOJ is working on this. We're seeing high level people get searched and subpoenaed. He does wish they would go faster.

 

[ZiprHead]

James Comey and Andrew McCabe were audited by the IRS - while a Trump appointee was running the show

The New York Times Michael S. Schmidt published a story yesterday revealing that both Jim Comey and Andrew McCabe were audited by the IRS — during the time when a Trump appointee was the IRS commissioner. Neither man was aware that the other was the...

www.dailykos.com

The New York Times Michael S. Schmidt published a story yesterday revealing that both Jim Comey and Andrew McCabe were audited by the IRS — during the time when a Trump appointee was the IRS commissioner. Neither man was aware that the other was the subject of an audit until they were informed by the NYT. The type of audit the two former FBI Directores were subjected to is supposed to be random, but that odds of that are astronomical. www.nytimes.com/…

In a previous iteration of this story I did some simple calculations that proved to incorrect. I suggested that if James Comey had a 1 / 30,600 of being audited and Andrew McCabe had a 1 / 19, 250 chance that the odds of those two events occurring could be calculated by multiplying the odds of the first event 1/ 36,000 by the odds of the second 1 / 19,250 which yields a very large number 1 out of 589,050,000, which seemed rather improbable to me. By way of comparison the odds of winning Powerball are 1 in 292,201,338. For that assessment, I followed the procedure found here. www.statisticshowto.com/… and that simple calculation misstates the actual problem.

And these were audits known as "autopsies without the benefit of death".

 

[ZiprHead]

Trump Reportedly Leaves Board of His Social Media Company Just Weeks Before Federal Subpoenas

A recent report claims Trump, along with five other TMTG board members, had their names suspiciously removed but the platform calls that "fake news."

gizmodo.com

The angry Florida man who perpetually has “nothing to hide” is reportedly trying to squirm his way out of yet another potentially dubious business deal.

New Florida state fillings first reported on by The Sarasota Herald-Tribune reportedly show Donald Trump—who once served as chairman and a board member of his burgeoning tech company Trump Media and Technology Group—jumped ship and bailed on his board seat just weeks before the company received subpoenas from the Securities and Exchange Commission and a federal grand jury in Manhattan.

Trump’s son and former fellow TMTG board member Donald Trump Jr. was another one of six total TMTG board members reportedly removed around the same time. As of writing, Trump bootlicker and TMTG CEO Devin Nunes, and CFO Phillip Juhan stand alone as the sole TMTG board of directors remaining, according to the Sarasota Herald-Tribune report. Talk about cleaning house.

The Sarasota Herald-Tribune sent reporters to TMTG’s office in Sarasota, Florida, and reportedly found a ghost town with no reference to the company’s name.

 

[ZiprHead]

 Glenn Kirschner just predicted that trump will be prosecuted at both state and federal levels.

 

[ZiprHead]

 

[ZiprHead]

President Trump's staggering record of uncharged criminal misconduct - CREW | Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington

Donald Trump has been credibly accused of committing at least 48 criminal offenses while president or campaigning for the presidency.

www.citizensforethics.org

Donald Trump has been credibly accused of committing at least 48 criminal offenses while he was serving as President of the United States or campaigning for that office. Those offenses are listed in the table below, which includes possible offenses that were investigated by the Department of Justice while President Trump was in office as well as possible offenses that have not been the subject of any confirmed reported investigation. While he was in office, President Trump was protected by the DOJ’s policy of not indicting a sitting president, but that policy of course does not apply to a former president. The table does not include potential crimes being investigated by authorities in New York relating to the Trump Organization.

Click here to jump straight to the table

 

[Copernicus]

President Trump's staggering record of uncharged criminal misconduct - CREW | Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington

Donald Trump has been credibly accused of committing at least 48 criminal offenses while president or campaigning for the presidency.

www.citizensforethics.org

Donald Trump has been credibly accused of committing at least 48 criminal offenses while he was serving as President of the United States or campaigning for that office. Those offenses are listed in the table below, which includes possible offenses that were investigated by the Department of Justice while President Trump was in office as well as possible offenses that have not been the subject of any confirmed reported investigation. While he was in office, President Trump was protected by the DOJ’s policy of not indicting a sitting president, but that policy of course does not apply to a former president. The table does not include potential crimes being investigated by authorities in New York relating to the Trump Organization.

Click here to jump straight to the table

It's interesting that the statute of limitations for quite a few of those crimes expires in 2022--this year. All Garland has to do is sit tight, and those will go away. There are quite a few crimes remaining, but he does not yet appear to be budging on his slow motion being perpetually-interested-in-possible-crimes posture. The longer he goes without an indictment or charges of some kind, the more the opportunities for prosecution diminish. Biden is reportedly frustrated by the slow pace, but this is the guy he hired. Garland may be a good judge, but he does not appear to be much of a prosecutor.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

James Comey and Andrew McCabe were audited by the IRS - while a Trump appointee was running the show

The New York Times Michael S. Schmidt published a story yesterday revealing that both Jim Comey and Andrew McCabe were audited by the IRS — during the time when a Trump appointee was the IRS commissioner. Neither man was aware that the other was the...

www.dailykos.com

The New York Times Michael S. Schmidt published a story yesterday revealing that both Jim Comey and Andrew McCabe were audited by the IRS — during the time when a Trump appointee was the IRS commissioner. Neither man was aware that the other was the subject of an audit until they were informed by the NYT. The type of audit the two former FBI Directores were subjected to is supposed to be random, but that odds of that are astronomical. www.nytimes.com/…

In a previous iteration of this story I did some simple calculations that proved to incorrect. I suggested that if James Comey had a 1 / 30,600 of being audited and Andrew McCabe had a 1 / 19, 250 chance that the odds of those two events occurring could be calculated by multiplying the odds of the first event 1/ 36,000 by the odds of the second 1 / 19,250 which yields a very large number 1 out of 589,050,000, which seemed rather improbable to me. By way of comparison the odds of winning Powerball are 1 in 292,201,338. For that assessment, I followed the procedure found here. www.statisticshowto.com/… and that simple calculation misstates the actual problem.

And these were audits known as "autopsies without the benefit of death".

I read an article that indicated that McCabe and Comey should have expected this because they were federal employees with consistent incomes, and then all of a sudden drawing book money, speaking money, etc... It raises a red flag. Certainly it does look suspicious, but there could have been legitimate red flags just due to the change in reported income.

 

[RVonse]

nytimes.com/2022/03/28/us/politics/trump-election-crimes.html?unlocked_article_code=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuomT1JKd6J17Vw1cRCfTTMQmqxCdw_PIxftm3iWka3DODmwSiPkORJCH_0bRZKF4IMcpwjGDAdJFPbQzRft0i-RFPklgUE-ovp6A0twjEhkClLiSD

WASHINGTON — A federal judge ruled on Monday that former President Donald J. Trump and a lawyer who advised him on how to overturn the 2020 election most likely committed felonies, including obstructing the work of Congress and conspiring to defraud the United States.
The judge’s comments marked a significant breakthrough for the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, which had laid out in a civil filing the crimes it believed Mr. Trump might have committed as it weighs making a criminal referral to the Justice Department.
“The illegality of the plan was obvious,” wrote Judge David O. Carter of the Central District of California. “Our nation was founded on the peaceful transition of power, epitomized by George Washington laying down his sword to make way for democratic elections. Ignoring this history, President Trump vigorously campaigned for the vice president to single-handedly determine the results of the 2020 election.”
The Justice Department has been conducting a wide-ranging investigation of the Capitol assault but has given no public indication that it is considering pursuing a criminal case against Mr. Trump. A criminal referral from the House committee could increase pressure on Attorney General Merrick B. Garland to do so.

Finally! Will it go anywhere?

I'm not saying Trump is really guilty or not because I do not know. But what this reminds me of is the famous Hillary Clinton "lock her up crowd", so sure she was a criminal and ready to meet her justice. Always so sure she would be hooked and sent to jail. Trump even said he was going to lock her up after he became president. But none of this ever happened and none of it is ever going to happen even if Hillary was (is) guilty. You just don't put someone like Hillary in jail and Trump is not going to be put in jail either. I view it all as a bunch of BS.

I expect this will go exactly like that except with the usual reversal of red and blue parties.

As long as people are interested and tuning in to the media this will have served it purpose.