Lumpenproletariat
Veteran Member
- Joined
- May 9, 2014
- Messages
- 2,564
- Basic Beliefs
- ---- "Just the facts, ma'am, just the facts."
“The more pain we are all experiencing from the high price of gas, the more benefit there is for those who can access electric vehicles.”
ijr.com
-- Pete Buttigieg, in speech to promote alternative transportation (during record-high heat waves in the U.S. and Europe), and to promote subsidies to electric vehicles
This quote was publicized more by the Right-wing media than the Left or Mainline media. It's actually difficult to find the quote, and might have gone unnoticed if Fox News and Sean Hannity had not picked up on it and used it to bash Demos and blame Biden for high gas prices, which Demos deny, insisting that they want lower gas prices and are doing everything possible, even begging the Saudis (and whining to Venezuela and Iran) to step up production. Demos mostly disagree with Buttigieg and agree with Republicans and climate-change deniers that the priority is to keep gas prices low to preserve America's God-given right to cheap gasoline which is killing millions and will kill millions more in the future, even tens or hundreds of millions in 3rd-World countries in the coming decades. But these hordes of humans who will starve don't matter because America's right to instant gratification today is more important, according to Biden and Democrats generally who agree with Trumpsters and Fox on America's entitlement to cheap gas.
(One could argue that the EV subsidies are not an ideal alternative, because some other alternatives might be better, and EVs require electricity which comes mostly from burning coal, plus also the manufacture of batteries requires heavy fossil fuel consumption. However, the real truth of the Buttigieg quote is the need for any alternatives to gasoline, whatever these might be, and imposing higher cost onto gasoline will give encouragement to whatever are the best alternatives.)
The earlier notable Demo quote on this topic was that of Barrack Obama, in 2008:
“Under my plan … electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.”
www.politico.com
(earlier post on this topic: https://iidb.org/threads/new-need-for-gas-tax-increase.26282/ )
In reality Obama did not follow through on this, in his 8 years. But at least he spoke the truth in saying we need higher electricity rates (for energy produced by coal).
And here's a third example of a Demo gaff (where a Democrat told the Truth for once and got in trouble for it):
"I'm the only candidate which has a policy about how to bring economic opportunity using clean renewable energy as the key into coal country," she said. "Because we're going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business."
Hillary Clinton, 2016 campaign
www.businessinsider.com
So she later regrets having said it. But basically she did tell the truth, because essentially she pointed out that we need to reduce coal consumption, which means also reducing coal production through a coal tax passed on to consumers, as would be a necessary way to reducing coal, as Obama truthfully pointed out.
So when Democrats tell the truth on this, they offend both crybaby Republicans who deny there is any climate change (because they put today's instant gratification ahead of the future), but also crybaby Democrats who not only want cheap fossil-fuel energy, but also want to preserve their "jobs! jobs! jobs!" religion (or try to outdo Trump in the "jobs! jobs! jobs!" demagoguery).
Is there any way to get Democrats to stop backing down like cowards when they accidently tell the truth? How soon will it take for Pete Buttigieg to back down and say he didn't really mean it? Why is it that the crybabies always have to win and force the truth-tellers to back down?
Buttigieg: ‘The More Pain’ You Feel at the Gas Pump, the Higher the Benefit of an EV
Paying near record-high prices for gas may be hitting your wallet hard, but according to Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg, that
ijr.com
-- Pete Buttigieg, in speech to promote alternative transportation (during record-high heat waves in the U.S. and Europe), and to promote subsidies to electric vehicles
This quote was publicized more by the Right-wing media than the Left or Mainline media. It's actually difficult to find the quote, and might have gone unnoticed if Fox News and Sean Hannity had not picked up on it and used it to bash Demos and blame Biden for high gas prices, which Demos deny, insisting that they want lower gas prices and are doing everything possible, even begging the Saudis (and whining to Venezuela and Iran) to step up production. Demos mostly disagree with Buttigieg and agree with Republicans and climate-change deniers that the priority is to keep gas prices low to preserve America's God-given right to cheap gasoline which is killing millions and will kill millions more in the future, even tens or hundreds of millions in 3rd-World countries in the coming decades. But these hordes of humans who will starve don't matter because America's right to instant gratification today is more important, according to Biden and Democrats generally who agree with Trumpsters and Fox on America's entitlement to cheap gas.
(One could argue that the EV subsidies are not an ideal alternative, because some other alternatives might be better, and EVs require electricity which comes mostly from burning coal, plus also the manufacture of batteries requires heavy fossil fuel consumption. However, the real truth of the Buttigieg quote is the need for any alternatives to gasoline, whatever these might be, and imposing higher cost onto gasoline will give encouragement to whatever are the best alternatives.)
The earlier notable Demo quote on this topic was that of Barrack Obama, in 2008:
“Under my plan … electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.”
Uttered in 2008, still haunting Obama
“Under my plan … electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket," Obama said in 2008.www.politico.com
(earlier post on this topic: https://iidb.org/threads/new-need-for-gas-tax-increase.26282/ )
In reality Obama did not follow through on this, in his 8 years. But at least he spoke the truth in saying we need higher electricity rates (for energy produced by coal).
And here's a third example of a Demo gaff (where a Democrat told the Truth for once and got in trouble for it):
"I'm the only candidate which has a policy about how to bring economic opportunity using clean renewable energy as the key into coal country," she said. "Because we're going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business."
Hillary Clinton, 2016 campaign
Hillary Clinton: Here's the misstep from the campaign I regret the most
In her new book, "What Happened," Hillary Clinton wrote that her biggest regret was to say she would put coal miners out of business.
www.businessinsider.com
So she later regrets having said it. But basically she did tell the truth, because essentially she pointed out that we need to reduce coal consumption, which means also reducing coal production through a coal tax passed on to consumers, as would be a necessary way to reducing coal, as Obama truthfully pointed out.
So when Democrats tell the truth on this, they offend both crybaby Republicans who deny there is any climate change (because they put today's instant gratification ahead of the future), but also crybaby Democrats who not only want cheap fossil-fuel energy, but also want to preserve their "jobs! jobs! jobs!" religion (or try to outdo Trump in the "jobs! jobs! jobs!" demagoguery).
Is there any way to get Democrats to stop backing down like cowards when they accidently tell the truth? How soon will it take for Pete Buttigieg to back down and say he didn't really mean it? Why is it that the crybabies always have to win and force the truth-tellers to back down?
