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Ending Daylight Savings Time? Making It Permanent?

Over 50 years ago,
Bringing in DST was an issue. My dad didn't want it.
He didn't want it, because it was hard enough to get the kids to bed as it was.
Tom
It makes it hard for me to know when to put my parrots to bed and feed my dogs. :)

I let the feathered brats stay up until after 7, when I'm used to putting them to bed at 6. That was a drag.
 
DST messes with the football as some games are played south of the border.. This means that for most of the winter, games are at the reasonable time of 7 pm if played in NSW, but 8 pm if played in QLD. It sucks..

Add to that the other two or three timezones and it's a big mess. I don't know how you all cope in the US - how many hours different is it from East to West? Here, it's only 2 hours between us and WA.
 
I like it but I'd like to propose GDST (Gradual Daylight Savings Time.) Every month for six months, on the 11th day of each month, set your clock ahead 10 minutes. After six months, again on the 11th day, set your clock back 10 minutes. This would eliminate the big hangover of a sudden hour change. I'm not married to that 11th day business -- it could just as well be the 23rd day of each month.
And you're welcome.
 
I like it but I'd like to propose GDST (Gradual Daylight Savings Time.) Every month for six months, on the 11th day of each month, set your clock ahead 10 minutes. After six months, again on the 11th day, set your clock back 10 minutes. This would eliminate the big hangover of a sudden hour change. I'm not married to that 11th day business -- it could just as well be the 23rd day of each month.
And you're welcome.
IIDB doesn't have an emoticon quite appropriate to respond to that.
Tom
 
Standard time, all the time, please.

When I was 5 or so I was awakened by my mother and told to get ready for church. I looked at my Batman clock and according to it I would have had another hour to sleep. Mom said "It's daylight saving time so your clock is off by an hour". I've hated DST ever since.
 
I note the US tried permanent DST in 1974 and didn't like it.
America doesn't handle change well. We are exceptional that way.

Thank goodness relativity came out in the 19th century as if it happened after WWII, we'd still be stuck with Newtonian Physics.
 
I note the US tried permanent DST in 1974 and didn't like it.
There were a lot of failed attempts to modernize the country in the 70s, but should we really let a bunch of stubborn boomers keep us in the medieval period indefinitely? The metric system, family planning, an EPA with regulatory power, gay and indigenous rights... I'd like it all back please.
 
I note the US tried permanent DST in 1974 and didn't like it.
It didn’t even last a year. Enacted in January, repealed in October. Leave it to the two dumbass senators from Florida to want to repeat the mistake.
So, the US didn't try permanent DST in 1974, and didn't like it.

It's not possible to try it in less than a year.
 
I note the US tried permanent DST in 1974 and didn't like it.
It didn’t even last a year. Enacted in January, repealed in October. Leave it to the two dumbass senators from Florida to want to repeat the mistake.
So, the US didn't try permanent DST in 1974, and didn't like it.

It's not possible to try it in less than a year.
Of course it’s possible. They switched to DST in January, and people hated it. In October, they switched to standard time on the usual schedule, because they didn’t want to go through a second DST winter.
 
I note the US tried permanent DST in 1974 and didn't like it.
It didn’t even last a year. Enacted in January, repealed in October. Leave it to the two dumbass senators from Florida to want to repeat the mistake.
So, the US didn't try permanent DST in 1974, and didn't like it.

It's not possible to try it in less than a year.
Of course it’s possible. They switched to DST in January, and people hated it. In October, they switched to standard time on the usual schedule, because they didn’t want to go through a second DST winter.
Given that they weren't planning to switch in January ever again, people hated something that wasn't part of the proposal they rejected.

If they still hated it in January '75, having been on DST for a full year, their opinions may well have been very different.

So no, they didn't try it. And no, it isn't possible to try it in less than a year.
 
It didn’t even last a year. Enacted in January, repealed in October. Leave it to the two dumbass senators from Florida to want to repeat the mistake.
Nah. The repeal was the mistake. Would be nice having it no go dark before six in January ...
 
I note the US tried permanent DST in 1974 and didn't like it.
It didn’t even last a year. Enacted in January, repealed in October. Leave it to the two dumbass senators from Florida to want to repeat the mistake.
So, the US didn't try permanent DST in 1974, and didn't like it.

It's not possible to try it in less than a year.
Of course it’s possible. They switched to DST in January, and people hated it. In October, they switched to standard time on the usual schedule, because they didn’t want to go through a second DST winter.
Given that they weren't planning to switch in January ever again, people hated something that wasn't part of the proposal they rejected.

If they still hated it in January '75, having been on DST for a full year, their opinions may well have been very different.

So no, they didn't try it. And no, it isn't possible to try it in less than a year.
It wasn’t the switch that was the problem. We’ve been switching twice a year for decades. It was the sun rising very late, not until 9:30am in some places. The problems with that, whether real or imagined, caused people to demand an end to the experiment.


So yes, they did try it. And it didn’t fail because of a loss of an hour of sleep, as you seem to believe.
 
If you go by the ongoing reporting on metal health there is a never ending stream of new thingsharmful to your mental health.

Hours of commentary by 'mental health professionals' on how bad DST is bad for your mental health we have culturally lost resistance and the ability to deal with minor inconveniences.

At this point I quetion the competence of these so called professionals. To me mental health in part is about being able to deal with problems.
 
Why anyone should cause themself so much anxiety of DST is beyond me. If a clock can’t adjust itself, I’ve no use for it. Actually, I have no use for any of them as my phone is always with me. The microwave I can turn off and I do. The oven I’ll change because it takes less than ten seconds. My truck so I don’t inadvertently rely on it. It only goes forward in time. Not back. Probably made by the same folks who build odometers. So springing forward is a piece of cake. Falling back, I have to go all the way around again. It’s awful. Oh the humanity. And don’t even get me started on people who still wear watches. You’re just looking for trouble.
Yeah, this is a situation where I think the government could issue a very simple and effective rule:

As of 2025 all new internet-connected Wi-Fi systems should be required to implement NTP locally and accessible by an unsecured connection on a standard network SSID. It need not be frequently updated, it's just good enough for routine use. In my experience routers already implement an NTP client--the router knows what time it is. Implementing the server side of it would generate no upstream traffic and it would use less computing power and transmitter bandwidth than rejecting a bogus login would.

Presto, any device in a wi-fi field can find out the time. No messing with authenticating to the network or anything, basically the router hanging a clock on the wall and letting people look. Soon self-setting clocks would become a feature and soon after that not implementing self-setting in an electronic device would get you consigned to the dustbin of history.
 
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