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How should west respond to Russian invasion of Ukraine?

Meanwhile spat between Poland and Nazi Regime in Kiev is not going away.
Polish politicians are returning ukrainan medals an polls are showing that 60% poles are against Ukraine in EU
Links?
Ask your MSM.
I'm asking you. You made the statement, you back it up.

And even if Poland and Ukraine are having a spat, that doesn't mean they are aligning with Russia.
 
Meanwhile spat between Poland and Nazi Regime in Kiev is not going away.
Polish politicians are returning ukrainan medals an polls are showing that 60% poles are against Ukraine in EU
Links?
Ask your MSM.
I'm asking you. You made the statement, you back it up.

And even if Poland and Ukraine are having a spat, that doesn't mean they are aligning with Russia.

Yep! This is what Barbos doesn't understand. All the European countries have bitter, very bitter relations at times. And some of these go back many many generations. But here's the difference: the European countries don't have to worry about invading each other. Russia got mad at Ukraine because some mayor named a street after a Ukrainian Nazi who was a big meanie towards Russia. And then they invaded. Russia crossed a line. In the current dispute, Poland will withhold some arms and minor support to Ukraine for a while. But the fences will be mended soon, and the support will be back. But ironically, the great unifier is no longer the US: the great European unifier today is Russia! All the European countries understand that to unite will fight off the Russian hordes.
 
Barbos is right and here's the proof!
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United24 said:
Ukrainian long-range drones struck two oil refineries in Russia overnight, targeting facilities in Krasnodar region and the Yaroslavl region on June 28.
The strikes hit sites located approximately 300 and 700 kilometers from Ukraine, respectively, and were later confirmed by President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
 
So CNN, "the most trusted name in news" (their words, not mine) has it that there is a ten kilometer long line of vehicles trying to get across the Kerch Bridge to Russia.

It's all in the first couple of minutes.

In the late 1940s and into the 50s, there was an expression in Europe to describe the migration of people who were moving out of the Soviet areas of occupation and into western Europe. It was called "voting with their feet". In this case, it's a vote of no confidence.

No confidence in Nazi Regime in Kiev?

I know you're in Russia, but you have a job to do, so it's vodka after your shift, not before or during. It's not like you are a contract solder in Crimea who hasn't seen fresh drinking water in 6 days and vodka is all he has.
 
Barbos is right and here's the proof!
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United24 said:
Ukrainian long-range drones struck two oil refineries in Russia overnight, targeting facilities in Krasnodar region and the Yaroslavl region on June 28.
The strikes hit sites located approximately 300 and 700 kilometers from Ukraine, respectively, and were later confirmed by President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
I thought that was an early 4th July bonfire?
 
Barbos is right and here's the proof!
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United24 said:
Ukrainian long-range drones struck two oil refineries in Russia overnight, targeting facilities in Krasnodar region and the Yaroslavl region on June 28.
The strikes hit sites located approximately 300 and 700 kilometers from Ukraine, respectively, and were later confirmed by President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
That's just all that extra gasoline on the drones. :rolleyes:
 
Barbos is right and here's the proof!
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United24 said:
Ukrainian long-range drones struck two oil refineries in Russia overnight, targeting facilities in Krasnodar region and the Yaroslavl region on June 28.
The strikes hit sites located approximately 300 and 700 kilometers from Ukraine, respectively, and were later confirmed by President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
That's just all that extra gasoline on the drones. :rolleyes:
Yeah, those canny Ukrainians sneakily added a few hundred thousand litres of gasoline to each drone, just to make the fire look bigger.
 
Meanwhile spat between Poland and Nazi Regime in Kiev is not going away.
Polish politicians are returning ukrainan medals an polls are showing that 60% poles are against Ukraine in EU
Links?
Ask your MSM.
I'm asking you. You made the statement, you back it up.
And then what?
And even if Poland and Ukraine are having a spat, that doesn't mean they are aligning with Russia.
How do you know that?
How do you know what average pole think?
Remember that video early into "unprovoked invasion" with Ukrainian and Bulgarian truck drivers in EU?
Just because regime in EU "supports" regime in Kiev does not mean people in EU support regime in Kiev.
 
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Barbos is right and here's the proof!
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United24 said:
Ukrainian long-range drones struck two oil refineries in Russia overnight, targeting facilities in Krasnodar region and the Yaroslavl region on June 28.
The strikes hit sites located approximately 300 and 700 kilometers from Ukraine, respectively, and were later confirmed by President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
That's just all that extra gasoline on the drones. :rolleyes:
Yes, it might be. We don't know what is burning there.
 
Speaking of AI drone fury from Erick Shmidt.
Lots of videos of successful hits. But there are a bunch of hilarious misses too.
Looks like these drones can easily be avoided if it chose hit it head to head. Not enough CPU power I suspect for that.
And ukro-regime itself says that at the height of the campaign they were able to hit only 0.1% of total (military) trafic. 0.1% was enough to cause drivers to refuse to drive these trucks. So people suggested autonomous vehicles. I suggest that too and suggest make them smaller, much smaller . So that Erick piece of shit terrorist Shmidt $4K drones get wasted on tiny robot truck containers.
I mean 0.1% loss is really nothing and it's mostly time loss on cleaning the road.
I would suggest simply going off the road during strikes in order to not cause traffic jam in case of a hit. And be done with it for the time being. But yeah, tiny self-driving trucks can solve the problem.
 
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Yep! This is what Barbos doesn't understand. All the European countries have bitter, very bitter relations at times. And some of these go back many many generations. But here's the difference: the European countries don't have to worry about invading each other.
Tell that to Serbia, or ..... Greenland.
What YOU don't understand is that all that CNN shit you consume is 100% lie paid by scum like Erick Shmidt and other oligarchs which are the ones who dream about invading Russia.
 
And ukro-soldiers on the actual front line complain not about FPV drones (which Russia employs the same way ukraine does). Their main complain is FABs. That's right, good old soviet FABs. With wings and navigation of course. There is no solution for Kiev regime, they have no functioning Air Defense and Electronic countermeasures stopped working rather quickly when we started to use antenna-arrays for navigation receivers.
 
Here's just a reality check. I have noticed a sharp increase of "Russia is doomed and will any day fall" youtube and instagram clips. These videos were always there, but now they've completely taken over my feeds.

Is it just me who have accidentally triggered a shift in my algorithm or have you also noticed it?
 
Here's just a reality check. I have noticed a sharp increase of "Russia is doomed and will any day fall" youtube and instagram clips. These videos were always there, but now they've completely taken over my feeds.

Is it just me who have accidentally triggered a shift in my algorithm or have you also noticed it?
No, it's neocon-globalist orchestrated gas-lighting kerosene-lighting campaign to convince Trump and really everybody (including Russians) that Elensky-Ukraine is winning.
 
Here's just a reality check. I have noticed a sharp increase of "Russia is doomed and will any day fall" youtube and instagram clips. These videos were always there, but now they've completely taken over my feeds.

Is it just me who have accidentally triggered a shift in my algorithm or have you also noticed it?
I use neither YouTube nor Instagram, but I have noticed that the trend in news is away from "Russia might make a big breakthrough" and towards "Russian logistics are so degraded that their frontline could collapse", along with "Russian morale is so low that mutiny and/or revolt is being increasingly discussed as an option".

Of course, everybody is lying, exaggerating their favourite narratives, and minimising those they don't like. But the Ukrainian claims seem less implausible, and the Russian counterclaims more laughable by the day.

If we are to believe the Russians, they could win this in a week, and could have at any time since it all kicked off, but they are holding back because mumble mumble.

Ukraine is making fewer really grandiose claims, and when they do achieve solid results, they bring reciepts. And they have a clear strategy, striking Russian logistic depth, particularly in fuel supplies. It won't win them the war in a week, or probably even this year; But it stops Russia from gaining anything in return for the thiusands of men they shovel into the meat-grinder, and it brings the reality of war home to the comfortable middle class in Moscow, neither of which improves Mad Vlad's chances of dying peacefully of old age.
 
Ukraine is making fewer really grandiose claims, and when they do achieve solid results, they bring reciepts.
Yeah, they drop their receits using drones the same way they plant their flags in their never ending march on Moscow.
 

If we are to believe the Russians, they could win this in a week, and could have at any time since it all kicked off, but they are holding back because mumble mumble.

Russia rationing oil sure is a big crack in Putin's facade
No, that's a lie.
In Crimea they stopped selling gasoline to ordinary people for a few days I think, during this pre-nato meeting attacks on gasoline trucks by Erick Shmidt. But it appears they run out of these drones after the meeting. But I must admit. mission was accomplished, Elensky brought all these "receipts" to Orange and convinced him that He (Orange) is not a loser, .... for now.
Ukraine and their EU handlers are under constant pressure to maintain the fiction that they are winning, otherwise Orange would quit that project, and without US Ukraine is fucked. EU does not have anything besides money printing.
 
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