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UK comedian Russell Brand accused of rape and sexual assault

Three British news organisations report that comedian and social influencer Russell Brand is accused of rape, sexual assault and abuse based on allegations from four women who knew him over a seven-year period at the height of his fame.
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Last week on Channel 4's show Dispatches, they produced an hour long episode about 4 women who allege Brand sexually assaulted them at different points in his career (2006-2013). I suspect Dispatches asked Brand for comment before broadcast because before the episode aired Brand posted a video of him denying all of it, saying that he is a targeted victim of the deep state and that they are trying to cancel him for exposing the truth (I'm not linking the video, it's easy to find). I found his denials to be entirely unconvincing and quite a few people noticed how contrived and more importantly, how heavily edited his denial was;



Yes, the first thing that entered my head was that Simpsons scene with Homer too. Don't worry we're all on the same page. The BBC has since launched an internal investigation, but let's be honest; we are all thinking Jimmy Saville so this isn't very encouraging.

Now a fifth woman has come forward, except this time she's gone to the police.

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'Laughable and insulting': Russell Brand accuser hits out at his denials in fresh interview

A woman who accused British actor and comedian Russell Brand of sexual and emotional abuse says his denial of the allegations is "insulting".
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The really repugnant but depressingly unsurprising part of this is cunts like Andrew Tate, Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson and Jimmy Dore have all openly expressed their support for Brand.
 
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Russell Brand charged with rape and sexual assault

Police say Brand faces one count of rape, one of indecent assault, one of oral rape and two of sexual assault.
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The police said an investigation into Brand “remains open” and encouraged anyone who has been affected or may have information regarding the case to come forward.

The charges come more than a year after British media outlets Channel 4 and The Sunday Times revealed assault allegations by four women against Brand.
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Another MAGA cunt/Qanon fuckwit is outed as a sexual predator.

Every accusation...well you know the rest.
 
Patooka said:
www.abc.net.au

UK comedian Russell Brand accused of rape and sexual assault

Three British news organisations report that comedian and social influencer Russell Brand is accused of rape, sexual assault and abuse based on allegations from four women who knew him over a seven-year period at the height of his fame.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au

Last week on Channel 4's show Dispatches, they produced an hour long episode about 4 women who allege Brand sexually assaulted them at different points in his career (2006-2013). I suspect Dispatches asked Brand for comment before broadcast because before the episode aired Brand posted a video of him denying all of it, saying that he is a targeted victim of the deep state and that they are trying to cancel him for exposing the truth (I'm not linking the video, it's easy to find). I found his denials to be entirely unconvincing and quite a few people noticed how contrived and more importantly, how heavily edited his denial was;
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Thank you--that pretty much clinches it. What's with these idiots who go and remove the doubt about their guilt?? I used to think there was no way a long ago rape allegation could be proven. I hadn't considered the accused effectively admitting it a possibility.
 

Russell Brand petrified during first night in jail ahead of lengthy sentence​

Convicted rapist Russell Brand was absolutely ‘petrified’ during his first night in prison, which was spent in solitary confinement.

Yesterday, the 51-year-old-actor and comedian was found guilty of raping one woman and sexually assaulting three more.

Following the verdict, Judge Justice Bennathan told Brand he faces ‘a significant custodial term’ and denied him bail. Brand was then remanded into custody ahead of sentencing on Monday.

Now details have emerged as to what happened to Brand after he was taken to HMP Wandsworth, a high-security jail in south-west London.

The Daily Mail reports that Brand spent his first night in the Care and Separation Unit (CSU).
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Russell Brand petrified during first night in jail ahead of lengthy sentence​

Convicted rapist Russell Brand was absolutely ‘petrified’ during his first night in prison, which was spent in solitary confinement.

Yesterday, the 51-year-old-actor and comedian was found guilty of raping one woman and sexually assaulting three more.

Following the verdict, Judge Justice Bennathan told Brand he faces ‘a significant custodial term’ and denied him bail. Brand was then remanded into custody ahead of sentencing on Monday.

Now details have emerged as to what happened to Brand after he was taken to HMP Wandsworth, a high-security jail in south-west London.

The Daily Mail reports that Brand spent his first night in the Care and Separation Unit (CSU).
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I would be scared in my first night in prison as well. I think a celebrity (even a minor one) has more reason to fear.
 
So he was found guilty. But I find this a bit troubling. Its all word against word. No witnesses. No physical evidence. 20 years after the fact.

In the British comedian circuit he was notorious. A lot of female comedians "knew". So I think he was probably guilty. But that's not evidence.

I feel pretty uncomfortable about his conviction. No matter how much I dislike him. Or think he's probably guilty of a lot of it. I see a problem with women being able to get a guy convicted without evidence.

What do you think?
 
Not guilty on: two counts of rape and one count of attempted indecent assault
He was found guilty on: one count of rape and three counts of sexual assault

That at least suggests a jury that weighed the evidence and did not indiscriminately convict. One victim at least had multiple witnesses whom she had informed about the rape at the time.
Six accusers, I believe. Not up to Cosby's 50, but substantial.
Impossible to assess definitively without a transcript.
It wasn't "without evidence". It may be without physical evidence, but it's not without evidence. Testimony is evidence.
 
A miscarriage of justice is always possible, but it doesn't seem absurdly likely that one has occurred with this conviction; And while the principle of "innocent until proven guilty" applies, it is nevertheless worth noting that the acquittal of a guilty party is a miscarriage of justice, just as is the conviction of an innocent party.

The system very strongly favours the defendant, and the jury were insufficiently certain to convict on all counts. This strongly suggests that they were correct to convict on the remaining count.

Certainty is not available. Criminal cases almost never have access to proof. If there was physical evidence sufficient to prove a case on its own, the case would never make it to a jury trial - either it would be thrown out for lack of merit, or the defendant would plead guilty.
 
Always wonder how people like Brand, Cosby, Saville, Clinton, Trump etc. get away with it for so long?
The accusations were long term and just kept coming.
 
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A miscarriage of justice is always possible, but it doesn't seem absurdly likely that one has occurred with this conviction; And while the principle of "innocent until proven guilty" applies, it is nevertheless worth noting that the acquittal of a guilty party is a miscarriage of justice, just as is the conviction of an innocent party.

The system very strongly favours the defendant, and the jury were insufficiently certain to convict on all counts. This strongly suggests that they were correct to convict on the remaining count.

Certainty is not available. Criminal cases almost never have access to proof. If there was physical evidence sufficient to prove a case on its own, the case would never make it to a jury trial - either it would be thrown out for lack of merit, or the defendant would plead guilty.
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One of the victims (the LA one) immediately took a rape kit test after it happened. I'd be amazed if the results weren't submitted as evidence.

I think Zoid is mistaking TV for real life. When the evidence is overwhelming, it almost never goes to trial; it gets pleaded out. I know this is anecdotal but the two times I've had the misfortune of being slated for jury duty confirms that.
 
Tigers! said:
Always wonder how people like Brand, Cosby, Saville, Clinton, Trump etc. get away with it for so long?
The accusations were long term and just kept coming.
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Fame. Them being surrounded by people who's career dependent on their perpetuated fame. I think its mostly just that. Its not necessarily lying. Dependence leads to self deception.

And beautiful women often like to sleep with famous men. So when the famous man has slept with a woman it'll be assumed, by those near him, to be consensual.

Resentment makes people accuse famous people of bullshit all the time. Things that rarely are true. There will always be rape accusations thrown around about famous men. Its unavoidable.

So how would the people around them be able to separate the real accusations from gossip?

I'm not surprised at all. As long as we have celebrity culture we will have these serial rapists.
 
Patooka said:
Tigers! said:
Always wonder how people like Brand, Cosby, Saville, Clinton, Trump etc. get away with it for so long?
The accusations were long term and just kept coming.
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The BBC was responsible for 40% of that, if that helps.
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If a director at BBC gives a platform to a serial rapist and a pedophile, it reflects badly on the director who hired them. So they have an incentive to cover it up.

Isn't that the BBC story?

Not to mention that the directors of the BBC all come from fancy families with their own skelletons in the closet.
 
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