2020 Election Results

[bilby]

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

FUCK!!!

Philadelphia officials said they’d release another update of votes from the city today, between 2,000 and 3,000 votes. The remaining 40,000 votes could take a few more days.

FUCK!!!FUCK!!!FUCK!!!FUCK!!!FUCK!!!FUCK!!!FUCK!!!

Agreed. This one is a lot harder to take than Bush vs Gore.

Oh goodness, I think that is an exaggeration. Bush v Gore... that was hell. It lasted into mid-December... roughly half a trillion court cases. Roger Stone et al storming the Palm Beach Canvassing Board. Dimpled chads?! In the end, W wins via ballots, but only because of a poorly designed Palm Beach Butterfly ballot which gave too many intended Gore votes to Buchanan. That was the difference. While Nadar votes helped Gore lose, it was the unintended Buchanan votes meant for Gore that indicated Florida meant to vote Gore into the White House... and my gawd... how this world could have been so much different.

This is more annoying than despairing. We know the result with near certainty, but can't get the balloons to drop until we have "President-Elect"... and a certainty the Republicans aren't going to fuck the Electoral College.

In 2000, the final result was not known. W's lead was cut to ~30% of what it was. And the subsequent recounts (which were slowed down by an incredibly litigious W Campaign) whittled it down to 100+ at one point. Then the FL Supreme Court has two cases annulled by SCOTUS. And W marches into the White House with barely a majority of the Electoral College and a loss in the Popular Vote... intent on running as if he won in a landslide.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

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You never say no to the Count!

 

[J842P]

Gravel Institute on Twitter: "Biden condemned Cuba and Venezuela all the time and he had the worst Democratic performance among Hispanics in decades. Pandering doesn't work." / Twitter
Was that an effort to get the Miami Cuban vote?

Gravel Institute on Twitter: "The Lincoln Project raised $67 million to win more Republican voters to Biden. They spent it on "consultant fees." And Joe Biden just did worse among Republican voters than Hillary Clinton did in 2016. Biggest grift in years." / Twitter

Emma Vigeland on Twitter: "No matter the outcome, the fact that this election is so close is a clear indicator that Americans aren’t connecting material conditions on the ground — a depression, pandemic, low wages, etc — to the consequences of politics. Which is an abject, disgusting failure of Democrats." / Twitter

Nina Turner on Twitter: "This election has proved that Trumpism is alive and well. The sad truth is that it will be here to stay unless we can learn to deliver BIG for working people and stop marginalizing progressives.

The outcome of this election is a wake up call! https://t.co/YI93uuGuZb" / Twitter


Sunrise Movement DC on Twitter: "We know Trump is doing everything he can to steal this election. We’re in the streets and will continue to be to #DefendDemocracy and ensure every vote is counted. We can’t fight climate change or pass a #GreenNewDeal with an organized white supremacist in the People’s House. https://t.co/A3BZ96NzmY" / Twitter

One of the banners says "This is a democracy. Act like it."

The Truth About the Electoral College - YouTube - criticism of it.

Well, I think his condemnations didn't work because Republicans have been working that angle for a long time. I've said this for a while WRT Miami Cubans, they are a lost caused, at least for another couple generations.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

My Prediction from the other thread. I missed Georgia. I think everyone did that. I was also off on dark blue for NM and Colorado. Michigan should be light blue being under 2 and fraction %. And I got the single EVs wrong.

Actual Prediction

I'd max out Biden's EVs at 341 if things went closer to what the polls are saying.. That still puts TX, OH, and GA in Trump's column. I just don't see them swinging.

 

[crazyfingers]

Agreed. This one is a lot harder to take than Bush vs Gore.

Oh goodness, I think that is an exaggeration. Bush v Gore... that was hell. It lasted into mid-December... roughly half a trillion court cases. Roger Stone et al storming the Palm Beach Canvassing Board. Dimpled chads?! In the end, W wins via ballots, but only because of a poorly designed Palm Beach Butterfly ballot which gave too many intended Gore votes to Buchanan. That was the difference. While Nadar votes helped Gore lose, it was the unintended Buchanan votes meant for Gore that indicated Florida meant to vote Gore into the White House... and my gawd... how this world could have been so much different.

This is more annoying than despairing. We know the result with near certainty, but can't get the balloons to drop until we have "President-Elect"... and a certainty the Republicans aren't going to fuck the Electoral College.

In 2000, the final result was not known. W's lead was cut to ~30% of what it was. And the subsequent recounts (which were slowed down by an incredibly litigious W Campaign) whittled it down to 100+ at one point. Then the FL Supreme Court has two cases annulled by SCOTUS. And W marches into the White House with barely a majority of the Electoral College and a loss in the Popular Vote... intent on running as if he won in a landslide.

My meaning was that while I despised Bush, I didn't worry that he's purposely destroy our alliances, purposely destroy the civil service, purposely destroy both public health and the economy, purposely cause a race war or purposely destroy democracy itself.

While I am not completely certain that Biden will win, I think he will. But that small chance that Trump could still win makes all of the above concerns overwhelmingly painful. The stakes are an order of magnitude greater that Trump not get a 2nd term.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Agreed. This one is a lot harder to take than Bush vs Gore.

Oh goodness, I think that is an exaggeration. Bush v Gore... that was hell. It lasted into mid-December... roughly half a trillion court cases. Roger Stone et al storming the Palm Beach Canvassing Board. Dimpled chads?! In the end, W wins via ballots, but only because of a poorly designed Palm Beach Butterfly ballot which gave too many intended Gore votes to Buchanan. That was the difference. While Nadar votes helped Gore lose, it was the unintended Buchanan votes meant for Gore that indicated Florida meant to vote Gore into the White House... and my gawd... how this world could have been so much different.

This is more annoying than despairing. We know the result with near certainty, but can't get the balloons to drop until we have "President-Elect"... and a certainty the Republicans aren't going to fuck the Electoral College.

In 2000, the final result was not known. W's lead was cut to ~30% of what it was. And the subsequent recounts (which were slowed down by an incredibly litigious W Campaign) whittled it down to 100+ at one point. Then the FL Supreme Court has two cases annulled by SCOTUS. And W marches into the White House with barely a majority of the Electoral College and a loss in the Popular Vote... intent on running as if he won in a landslide.

My meaning was that while I despised Bush, I didn't worry that he's purposely destroy our alliances, purposely destroy the civil service, purposely destroy both public health and the economy, purposely cause a race war or purposely destroy democracy itself.

I didn't like W at all. Prior to the election I noted, 'He isn't a guy you want in charge in a war'. I was young and stupid at the time (compared to older and only slightly less stupid now), but the W Admin with the Neocons definitely seemed like a recipe for problems. Oh boy! So I was hanging on every case in court. Reading the SCOTUS transcripts, the FL transcripts (while exercising on the elliptical). I was obsessed!

While I am not completely certain that Biden will win, I think he will.

It is certain that the vote indicates Biden won.

Whether he is inaugurated in January 2021, that is the unknown. Just how far is this GOP willing to go?

 

[Artemus]

Oh goodness, I think that is an exaggeration. Bush v Gore... that was hell.

No kidding. I'm just glad that Serbia sent in peacekeeping forces or there is no telling what might have happened then.

 

[Treedbear]

Biden is so close to victory he can smell its hair. /colbert

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/SteveKornacki/status/1324574406727925761?s=20[/TWEET]

The freak Kornacki is still on air, been at it all night till now.

Mrs. Elixir calls him "Cracky". Says he never changes his pants. I think she's right on both counts.

Maddow made it clear he has several pairs of brown pants. Nerd that he is it's probably the only color.

 

[lpetrich]

NYT Nick Corasaniti: "Philadelphia officials said they’d release another update of votes from the city today, between 2,000 and 3,000 votes. The remaining 40,000 votes could take a few more days."

PA: Biden is ahead by 12,390 votes, 0.19%.
GA: Biden is ahead by 1,561 votes, 0.031%

I'll now consider how well "The Squad" did relative to Joe Biden in their districts.

NY-14:
AOC: +38.2%
Bronx: Biden +66%
Queens: Biden +63%
(average by area): Biden +65%

MA-07:
Ayanna Pressley: +70.6%
Boston: Biden +67%
Cambridge: Biden +85%
(using mostly Boston): Biden +67%

MI-13:
Rashida Tlaib: +59.1%
Wayne Cty: Biden +37%

MN-05:
Ilhan Omar: +38.6%
Hennepin Cty: Biden +43%

CA-45:
Katie Porter: +7.8%
Orange Cty: Biden +9%

AOC: -27%, IO -4%, KP -1%, AP +4%, RT +22%

So of all of them, AOC did the worst. That is likely from the heavy financing that her opponent John Cummings had, and his downplaying his Republican and Conservative-Party affiliations. He presented his campaign as a local one, and he claimed that AOC was a carpetbagger from Westchester County. He seemingly detached himself from the national party and Donald Trump, and he presented himself as appealing to "Joe Crowley Democrats", referring to AOC's predecessor.

 

[Gospel]

Leans back in his armchair taking a deep puff off a cheap Cuban cigar: "I think Biden might flip North Carolina."
Plucks ashes onto floor & exhales words and smoke: "What? Is it really that unbelievable?".

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Leans back in his armchair taking a deep puff off a cheap Cuban cigar: "I think Biden might flip North Carolina."
Plucks ashes onto floor & exhales words and smoke: "What? Is it really that unbelievable?".

The vote is about done in NC. The reason it isn't called yet is a mountain of 117,000 absentee ballots hadn't come in yet (may never). So the call on NC needed to wait.

 

[lpetrich]

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "Our first slate of New York primary endorsements is out today! 🗳 ..." / Twitter - let's see how well AOC's 18 NYC endorsees fared. All but one of them won.

• US House (3)
  • Samelys Lopez BX NY-15 - DSA WFP SUN - lost primary
  • Jamaal Bowman BX/WC NY-16 - MTR WFP SUN CVH
  • Mondaire Jones WC/RC NY-17 - WFP CVH
• NY State Senate (8)
  • Michael Gianaris QN SD-12 - MTR WFP SUN
  • Jessia Ramos QN SD-13 - MTR WFP SUN
  • Julia Salazar BK SD-18 - MTR DSA WFP SUN
  • Jabari Brisport BK SD-25 - DSA WFP SUN
  • Robert Jackson MN SD-31 - WFP
  • Gustavo Rivera BX SD-33 - MTR WFP
  • Alessandra Biaggi BX SD-34 - WFP
  • jamaal Bailey BX SD-36 - WFP
• NY State Assembly (7)
  • Catalina Cruz QN AD-39 - MTR WFP
  • Ron Kim QN AD-40 - MTR WFP
  • Marcela Mitaynes BK AD-51 - DSA WFP SUN
  • Phara Souffrant BK AD-57 - DSA SUN
  • Yuh-Line Niou MN AD-65 - MTR WFP SUN
  • Nathalia Fernandez BX AD-80 -
  • Karines Reyes BX AD-87 - WFP

BK, BX, MN, QN = NYC boroughs
MTR = Make The Road, DSA = Democratic Socialists of America, WFP = Working Families Party, SUN = Sunrise Movement, CVH = Community Voices Heard

The only loser was Samelys Lopez, and she placed 4th, with 14.0% of the vote. The winner, Ritchie Torres, has 32.2%, and there were 12 candidates in this election. Katie Porter supported Ritchie Torres, and Brand New Congress supported Tomas Ramos, who finished 7th with 2.4% of the vote. RT won the general election with a margin of +76%.

 

[lpetrich]

Jamaal Bowman on Twitter: "Every time I see 45 speak I think of the countless meetings I’ve had in my office teaching middle school students to take responsibility for their actions and not lie.

They are 11. He’s 74." / Twitter

With these responses:

Luckie Westlund on Twitter: "@JamaalBowmanNY As a special educator for 17 years I thank you for this. " / Twitter

Sdefenestration on Twitter: "@JamaalBowmanNY I hear his drivel & the teacher in me wants to say "Donny, why don't you take a moment to write down & organize your thoughts. I'm going to call on Janice, then circle back to you."" / Twitter

Robert Harris on Twitter: "@JamaalBowmanNY Cause the kids you helped learn that would have faced consequences in their life if they didn't learn, but DT never has in this 74 years .." / Twitter

Jose Rivera on Twitter: "@JamaalBowmanNY At 11 my son was way better behaved and showed more compassion and humility. 45 is the worst" / Twitter

Mumcock on Twitter: "@JamaalBowmanNY I have an 11 yr old. I use Trump as an example how NOT to act. He can see it as wrong, so I’m hopeful." / Twitter

George on Twitter: "@JamaalBowmanNY @a_fly_guy_no He acts my daughter, when she was 4 years old. Lol" / Twitter

 

[crazyfingers]

Biden's lead in GA just increased from 1616 to 4,263!

That's 68% of some 7200 votes just added.

 

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[KeepTalking]

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LOL, best meme yet!

 

[Treedbear]

Didn't like the way MSNBC cut Trump's live press conference (sans questions) off after the first sentence. Then they have Nichol Wallace come on again after he's done and start trying to justify what they did. They forced me to switch down one channel to FoxNews to hear what BS he had to deliver. I don't appreciate their edifying what is and isn't news. Fortunately Maddow didn't back them up. Quite embarrassing.

They have no obligation to allow anyone to use their platform to spread lies. Further, I would think their concern is by allowing such blatant falsehoods to be aired over their network they could be abetting violence and rioting.

That sounds like Trumpian rationale for hiding the truth about how serious the corona virus was back in February in order to prevent panic. In reality he was trying to make himself look good. Trying to hide Trump's desperation from his supporters will only allow them to justify their conspiracy theories. In the meantime lots of Republicans are publicly decrying what he said and the good liberals will have no way to appreciate it. Don't let them get away with it, no matter which side you're on.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Didn't like the way MSNBC cut Trump's live press conference (sans questions) off after the first sentence. Then they have Nichol Wallace come on again after he's done and start trying to justify what they did. They forced me to switch down one channel to FoxNews to hear what BS he had to deliver. I don't appreciate their edifying what is and isn't news. Fortunately Maddow didn't back them up. Quite embarrassing.

They have no obligation to allow anyone to use their platform to spread lies. Further, I would think their concern is by allowing such blatant falsehoods to be aired over their network they could be abetting violence and rioting.

That sounds like Trumpian rationale for hiding the truth about how serious the corona virus was back in February in order to prevent panic. In reality he was trying to make himself look good.

Except Social Media is a for-profit enterprise , not elected, or pretending to be journalists. They have different responsibilities and options.

And rules for the use of thdir platforms. If they're finally enforcing some of tjose, that's a good thing.

 

[Derec]

and he claimed that AOC was a carpetbagger from Westchester County.

Well she is from Westchester. Also, she tried to pretend she has these working class roots (reminiscent of Jon Stewart's classic "Poor Off" segment) when in reality her father was a New York architect.