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Adams County [Idaho] rancher shot and killed by deputies

 
 
 
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http://www.ktvb.com/story/news/loca...r-involved-shooting-in-adams-county/75036826/

The incident began when a Subaru station wagon crashed into a bull on US 95 north of Council at about 6:45 p.m. Emergency responders and Adams County deputies responded and were working to extricate the two people inside the car. Adams County Sheriff Ryan Zollman said the bull, which was injured in the collision, started charging at emergency responders and other vehicles.

"The bull was very agitated and was aggressive to emergency services, as well as the other cars coming up and down the highway," he said.

Deputies were getting ready to put the animal down when the bull's owner, 62-year-old Jack Yantis, arrived on the scene with a rifle. Zollman said dispatchers had called Yantis after the crash, telling him that the bull that was hit appeared to be his, and was down on the highway near his house.

What happened next is still under investigation, but Zollman said there was an altercation and Yantis and both deputies all fired their weapons.

Yantis was fatally wounded and died at the scene. One of the deputies suffered a minor injury.
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The rancher's wife suffered a heart attack when told of her husband's death and is currently in critical condition.

Another interaction with police that didn't have to end in a dead person (maybe dead people by the time it's over).

I can't wait to see what kind of dirt gets dug up on Yantis and cute little "rag doll" nicknames get coined for him as the day goes on.
 
Oh crap it's another one of these "everybody stick up for the armed white rancher" threads.
 
How do you know he's white? I didn't mention race and the story doesn't mention it either.
 
Also I imagine we'd be hearing more about in the outrage mills if they shot the one black guy in town.

As of the census[2] of 2010, there were 839 people, 360 households, and 224 families residing in the city. The population density was 839.0 inhabitants per square mile (323.9/km2). There were 476 housing units at an average density of 476.0 per square mile (183.8/km2). The racial makeup of the city was 96.5% White, 0.1% African American, 0.7% Native American, 0.2% Asian, 0.1% Pacific Islander, 0.2% from other races, and 2.0% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 3.0% of the population.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council,_Idaho
 
dismal said:
Also I imagine we'd be hearing more about in the outrage mills if they shot the one black guy in town.
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Ya, shooting the one black guy would have made it really awkward.

As it is, if you're holding a gun and you get into an altercation with the police, you might want to put the gun down first.
 
Oh, it did have to end with a dead person?

That's a depressing thought.
 
ksen said:
http://www.ktvb.com/story/news/loca...r-involved-shooting-in-adams-county/75036826/

The incident began when a Subaru station wagon crashed into a bull on US 95 north of Council at about 6:45 p.m. Emergency responders and Adams County deputies responded and were working to extricate the two people inside the car. Adams County Sheriff Ryan Zollman said the bull, which was injured in the collision, started charging at emergency responders and other vehicles.

"The bull was very agitated and was aggressive to emergency services, as well as the other cars coming up and down the highway," he said.

Deputies were getting ready to put the animal down when the bull's owner, 62-year-old Jack Yantis, arrived on the scene with a rifle. Zollman said dispatchers had called Yantis after the crash, telling him that the bull that was hit appeared to be his, and was down on the highway near his house.

What happened next is still under investigation, but Zollman said there was an altercation and Yantis and both deputies all fired their weapons.

Yantis was fatally wounded and died at the scene. One of the deputies suffered a minor injury.
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The rancher's wife suffered a heart attack when told of her husband's death and is currently in critical condition.

Another interaction with police that didn't have to end in a dead person (maybe dead people by the time it's over).

I can't wait to see what kind of dirt gets dug up on Yantis and cute little "rag doll" nicknames get coined for him as the day goes on.
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Without knowing more any full judgement is premature. However, that the rancher showed up with a rifle to confront responders suggests he was ready to shoot anyone who intended to harm his bull. Therefore it is likely he died because of his imminent threat to use of lethal force...and therefore earned it.

Sad...but let the chips fall where they may.
 
maxparrish said:
Without knowing more any full judgement is premature. However, that the rancher showed up with a rifle to confront responders
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We don't know he showed up to confront responders. There's no indication of that in the story.

suggests he was ready to shoot anyone who intended to harm his bull.
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Or he brought the rifle in order to put the animal down himself if he thought it needed it.

Therefore it is likely he died because of his imminent threat to use of lethal force...and therefore earned it.
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I have no reason to believe this is the likely scenario. I can just as easily see the rancher trying to remove the bull from the scene instead of having it killed if in his estimation the injuries to the bull were not life threatening. The officers order him to let them shoot his bull. He refuses. So the officers escalate and draw down on him instead.

Sad...but let the chips fall where they may.
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It is sad. But society always just letting "the chips fall where they may" doesn't fix the problem of police officers that resort to lethal force much too quickly.
 
All good points. So until we know more...we don't know. Perhaps in a day or two we can argue...always looking forward to it. ;)
 
Has anyone else noticed that the Subaru that hit the bull was damaged so bad, the passengers couldn't get out of the car, but the bull was still able to charge the rescuers.
 
Bronzeage said:
Has anyone else noticed that the Subaru that hit the bull was damaged so bad, the passengers couldn't get out of the car, but the bull was still able to charge the rescuers.
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Injured animals tend to become very aggressive.
 
Bronzeage said:
Derec said:
Injured animals tend to become very aggressive.
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Apparently old white men do too. Do we know the color of the bull?
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The article says black.

I read somewhere else that Yantis and the cops fired their weapons. The bull was also shot, but they're not sure by whom.

I'm wondering if Yantis shot the bull and the cops shot Yantis after hearing the gunshot.
 
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