Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

[angelo]

I still have faith in that the silent majority of American voters will reject blatant economy destroying socialism as espoused by AOC and especially her comrades the squad when it comes to the vote. In fact the more Dems turn left, the more certain Trump's re-election becomes.

Define "socialism".

Venezuela!

 

[KeepTalking]

I still have faith in that the silent majority of American voters will reject blatant economy destroying socialism as espoused by AOC and especially her comrades the squad when it comes to the vote. In fact the more Dems turn left, the more certain Trump's re-election becomes.

Define "socialism".

Venezuela!

Okay, yes, Venezuela is a socialist country. Now, can you show us how AOC's policy ideas are equivalent to the socialism in Venezuela?

 

[Patooka]

I still have faith in that the silent majority of American voters will reject blatant economy destroying socialism as espoused by AOC and especially her comrades the squad when it comes to the vote. In fact the more Dems turn left, the more certain Trump's re-election becomes.

Define "socialism".

Venezuela!

What a well thought out, intelligent answer.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Venezuela!

What a well thought out, intelligent answer.

When OUR children were in first grade, we taught them the difference between 'define' and 'give an example of.'
It can be kind of important to be able to demonstrate that you understand the difference.

But then, if you cannot understand the difference, that might be important for other people to know, too.

 

[lpetrich]

EBRO In The Morning on Twitter: "Tune in! We have Congresswoman @ocasio2018 LIVE with us at 8:15AM! Do you have any questions for her? #AOC #EbrointheMorning https://t.co/DgrltqMDLU" / Twitter - some rather cutesy video of her announcing her appearance on that NYC talk-radio show.

Video of her complete appearance that day:
Maverick Sabre on Twitter: "This @oldmanebro interview with @AOC is a great watch.
If you haven't seen it, check it out.. keeps hope in the fact that there are still good politicians out there. https://t.co/MDgm18FVKE" / Twitter noting
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez On Impeaching Trump, Nancy Pelosi, Recent Backlash + Breaks Down Her Job - YouTube
AOC a bit surprised by her fame -- Fox News making her a great villain. When running, she felt that she had a mandate to change the conversation about important issues. She criticizes politicians from both parties - she unseated a long-time Democrat. About Nancy Pelosi, she said that it was a very good meeting. Then about being afraid of losing - we ought to be push forward. Then the possibility that her district will be gerrymandered to include Westchester Republicans. That would most likely happen for the 2022 election, the first one after the 2020 census. She figures that if she can't make in politics, she will move on to somewhere else where she can feel useful. She's not likely to become a bartender again, because her fame has likely opened a lot of activist doors.

She then describes what her job is. Executive runs the business, as it were. In DC, when making laws, being sure that her district is represented. In NYC, to get feedback from district residents, help with navigating bureaucratic stuff. State and local gov'ts smaller versions of Federal one -- I like her mini civics lesson. Then what I'd posted on earlier, like the horrible conditions in the border camps and people who want to deny it. Then about how US guns end up in Central America. Then her work in the Financial Services Committee. Republicans: economy good, immigrants bad. "Make America Great Again" - the US is trash - DT's campaign slogan. She thinks that progressive candidates will win - Medicare for All, etc.

Nancy Pelosi is a vote counter - still not enough Democrats who want to impeach. Should not worry about the Senate. The big reason is DT's corruption. Russia is a part of it. Then Israel's occupation of Palestine and how a lot of Jews appose it, in the US and Israel. Netanyahu much like Trump. The Right: criticizing Israel is anti-Semitic and denying Israel's right to exist, something said about no other country. She mentioned riots as a response to nastiness and persecution.

Then about how the economic elite likes to keep the bulk of the people divided on racial and ethnic grounds, and how that hurts getting progressive policies. She gets to calling these border camps "concentration camps", and how that is not original with her. She then got into how New York City is a sort of Jewish capital of the world - more Jews than in Tel Aviv, for instance. AOC mentioned Latin American Jews - Sephardic ones (Northern and Eastern ones: Ashkenazi ones, Middle Eastern and North African ones: Mizrahi ones). She suspects that she has some Jewish ancestry, and she and her interviewers had a big chuckle about "Alexandria Ocasio-Goldstein" and Trump calling her Pocahontas. AOC probably has some Taino Indian ancestry also, so she's likely that also.

Then how many politicians are progressives on every issue but Israel. Then something similar on race. Inequity considered like racism. Then AOC notes that the debate over "send her back" as racist is all too limited -- what is the effect on people much like the targeted ones? Then the 100-mile policy -- all the borders, including the oceans.

About the Democratic candidates, she likes Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth "I've got a plan for that" Warren. She also did a shout-out to Julián Castro, pronouncing his name in Spanish fashion. She also likes Kamala Harris. She also believes that how one runs one's campaign is a big indicator of how one will govern. Her interviewer then said that he likes AOC because he considers her honest about what she wants, that she's in politics to make the changes that she wants. He thinks that people who dislike her also dislike her for that reason.

As a final note, AOC urged people to get their registration checked on, in case it was purged or it is not up-to-date. She also stated that she does not like the two-party system, but that we are stuck with it, and also NY's closed primaries. Then on how backward NY State is about voter registration - it's one of the worst, up there with some Southern states. But the NY state legislature has made some positive changes recently: early voting, mail-in ballots, etc.

Great interview.

 

[lpetrich]

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "They literally are, &this comment is what erasure looks like. HIGH TURNOUT from DEEP BLUE SEATS &being competitive everywhere is the core of a winning strategy.
It’s disturbing to see this Trump talking pt that dense, diverse communities “aren’t the REAL [America/Midwest/etc].” https://t.co/S97RillWbU" / Twitter
That's what leads to one-acre-one-vote defenses of the Electoral College, for instance -- defenses of giving extra votes to presumed Real Americans.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "The Dem House is a different approach. I’d say the House is arguably & currently structured to be the most conservative of the 3 due to GOP gerrymandering.
Being inspirational & ambitious is good strategy! Being visionary is a strength, not a liability, for statewide turnout." / Twitter
Gerrymandering is relatively easy to fix -- change state election laws and do redistricting. The Senate is much harder to fix.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "“True peace is not the absence of tension; it is the presence of justice.”
Thankful for the wide, intergenerational coalition of communities coming together - Israeli & Palestinian, Jewish & Muslim, American & around the world - seeking to advance that peace and justice. https://t.co/xs9hPp0Jv3" / Twitter noting
J Street on Twitter: "“Criticizing the occupation doesn't make you anti-Israel, frankly. It doesn't mean that you are against the existence of a nation,” @AOC argues. “It means that you believe in human rights." https://t.co/147iEe7gAG" / Twitter

IfNotNow on Twitter: "“If you want to engage in actual discussions of antisemitism, that is an actual conversation that we can have...There are really amazing orgs of young people, like @IfNotNowOrg, young Jews organizing for justice because they realize that all of our fates are intertwined.“- @AOC https://t.co/EC3H4W8C0L" / Twitter

 

[lpetrich]

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "Anytime, @JulianCastro.
Good luck to you & our whole Dem field tonight! https://t.co/WhH35WzzcL" / Twitter noting
Julián Castro on Twitter: "Thanks for the shoutout, @AOC. Grateful for your leadership and voice on so many of these issues. https://t.co/eJruOzKS9Y" / Twitter
For being willing to go public - AOC herself concedes that the safest thing is to lay low and be quiet, and that going public is a risk.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "Remember when GOP got all outraged & fanned controversy when I pointed out how Reagan used racism as a political tool to keep white people poor & people of color poor too?
Well, here we have it.
Like many racists, Reagan spoke it behind closed doors. @TheAtlantic has the story. [url]https://t.co/rHX7vqlwHM https://t.co/NIZzzn863d" / Twitter[/url] noting
Keith Boykin on Twitter: "In this 1971 phone call, Ronald Reagan described African diplomats as “monkeys” who are “still uncomfortable wearing shoes.” Nixon laughed at Reagan’s racist joke.
In 2018, Trump called black countries “shitholes.”
The Party of Lincoln @arlenparsa https://t.co/74aIQv7v5e" / Twitter
Which is now the party of Jefferson Davis.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "This is huge problem for many communities, from PR to WV. “Coal waste” is a nice word for ash. It piles up in mountainlike heaps + poisons water.
Some candidates last night said addressing climate injustice is a “distraction.”
But why should clean water be only for the rich? https://t.co/2wKQbOIF9F" / Twitter noting
The Hill on Twitter: "EPA wants to remove Obama-era limits on cancer-linked coal waste that can pollute water supply [url]https://t.co/WBmSPamCrP https://t.co/Ed6xAfe9TP" / Twitter[/url]
A nice feature of renewable-energy sources is that they don't produce such big ash piles. Though oil and natural gas don't either.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "Fossil fuel companies also ship coal ash built up in PR to often poor communities in the continental US.
In PR, renewables are cheaper than fossil fuels. There is no reason we shouldn’t be pursuing a just transition there outside of corrupt lobbying. https://t.co/UPD23tjbbp" / Twitter noting
Aura S. Jirau on Twitter: "This will affect the huge deposit already in Peñuelas, Puerto Rico. Its toxic ashes have already polluted the town's water supply. https://t.co/cEICEW9yhE" / Twitter

Omar Alfonso on Twitter: "HOY | La @EPA pidió eliminar salvaguardas que protegen a miles de las cenizas de carbón.
Entre los cambios, quiere aumentar de 12,400 a 77,000 toneladas el límite permitido como relleno en proyectos de construcción | [url]https://t.co/nMk3o60j2X
Por @JasonRGrafal @OmarAlfonsoPR . https://t.co/xRmjsJ7EJR" / Twitter[/url]
Translation:
TODAY | The @EPA asked to eliminate safeguards that protect thousands of coal ashes.
Among the changes, it wants to increase the limit allowed as landfill in construction projects from 12,400 to 77,000 tons | (link: https://www.periodicolaperla.com/la-epa-pide-eliminar-normas-que-protegen-a-miles-de-las-cenizas) periodicolaperla.com/la-epa-pide-el…
By @JasonRGrafal @OmarAlfonsoPR .

 

[angelo]

Venezuela!

Okay, yes, Venezuela is a socialist country. Now, can you show us how AOC's policy ideas are equivalent to the socialism in Venezuela?

Exactly what do you think the green new deal will do to America, or taxing some people 70% of their income would do for incentive?

Only one man's opinion, right?

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Exactly what do you think the green new deal will do to America, or taxing some people 70% of their income would do for incentive?

It would make some of the super rich and certainly the oil industry spread false right-wing propaganda to the masses to try to get them to overthrow the government. In fact, those ideas are so dangerous the propaganda begins way, way before socialism; any tilt left is exaggerated as communism and Stalin in order to maintain the oligarchy.

 

[angelo]

AOC is also deeply ant semitic, as many in the Democratic party's loudmouths are these days............................https://worldisraelnews.com/ocasio-...+with+Arabs,+Not+Israel;+AOC+Signs+on+to+BDS%

 

[angelo]

Exactly what do you think the green new deal will do to America, or taxing some people 70% of their income would do for incentive?

It would make some of the super rich and certainly the oil industry spread false right-wing propaganda to the masses to try to get them to overthrow the government. In fact, those ideas are so dangerous the propaganda begins way, way before socialism; any tilt left is exaggerated as communism and Stalin in order to maintain the oligarchy.

Of course it is to those blind to the facts such as yourself!

 

[Patooka]

AOC is also deeply ant semitic, as many in the Democratic party's loudmouths are these days............................https://worldisraelnews.com/ocasio-...+with+Arabs,+Not+Israel;+AOC+Signs+on+to+BDS%

You don't even have a fucking clue what BDS is. Saying BDS is anti semitic is like saying protests against apartheid in the 80's is racist towards white people.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Exactly what do you think the green new deal will do to America, or taxing some people 70% of their income would do for incentive?

It would make some of the super rich and certainly the oil industry spread false right-wing propaganda to the masses to try to get them to overthrow the government. In fact, those ideas are so dangerous the propaganda begins way, way before socialism; any tilt left is exaggerated as communism and Stalin in order to maintain the oligarchy.

Of course it is to those blind to the facts such as yourself!

I am not blind to facts.

 

[lpetrich]

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez On Being Underestimated, Her Humble Beginnings + Rep. Joe Crowley - YouTube - by the Ebro in the Morning team back in 2018 July 18, shortly after beating JC.

She describes how she coped with the primary election, not wanting to find out about its results until they were all counted. She recalled JC outspending her 10:1, having commercials for himself and plenty of mailings for himself. However, AOC preferred a strategy of contacting every possible voter, not the ones who had voted in previous elections. That helped her, it seems.

She also described New York State's election laws, and how JC insisted as running as a Working Families Party candidate, despite that party endorsing AOC after her primary victory.

She started out being interested in science, and getting science kits as a child. She was also big on reading, like about Harriet Tubman, someone who helped organize the Underground Railroad, a sort of freedom network of people who helped slaves escape to freedom. In the Civil War, she served on the Union side. She got a scholarship to Boston University, and turned her attention from microbiology to macro issues, like why people in some areas are sicker than others. That led to her studying economics and international relations. She remembered her time as intern for Teddy Kennedy.

Then the demographics of AOC's victory -- she won in all ethnic and racial groups, and not just because she is a Puerto Rican. They also talked about abolition of ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement). She discovered that it was her who first talked about doing so, and that other politicians later took it up. She warned against taking her election for granted, and she urged people to get registered to vote as soon as they can, even though the day of the broadcast is well before the official deadline of 1 month before the election. Then what nickname: Alex, though they've mentioned Alexa and Allie. I've also seen Sandy for her.

 

[KeepTalking]

She did defend the Hamas riots.

Please quote her exact words in context in order to back up this contention.

She did erroneously describe Gaza as "occupied".

I am not sure how it can be erroneous when a good portion of the international community, including the official United Nations terminology also describes it that way:

Palestinian territories has been used for many years to describe the territories occupied by Israel since 1967, namely the West Bank (including East Jerusalem) and the Gaza Strip. More recently, the official United Nations terminology has been used, occupied Palestinian territory (OPT or oPt) increasingly replacing other terms since 1999.[11] The European Union also has adopted this usage...

Israel disengaged from the Gaza Strip in 2005, however the international community considers the West Bank and the Gaza Strip still to be occupied by Israel.

 

[KeepTalking]

For the record, here is the full quote from AOC:

“I believe that injustice is a threat to the safety of all people, because once you have a group that is marginalized and marginalized and marginalized, then you create a … like, once someone doesn’t have access to clean water, they have no choice but to riot,”

About that clean water--how much of the problem is due to Hamas taking the pipe for rocket construction?

I don't know, do you?

Derec thinks the water problem has something to do with birth rates. Maybe you two should put your heads together and come up with a reason that blames anything and everything except Isreal.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

For the record, here is the full quote from AOC:

“I believe that injustice is a threat to the safety of all people, because once you have a group that is marginalized and marginalized and marginalized, then you create a … like, once someone doesn’t have access to clean water, they have no choice but to riot,”

About that clean water--how much of the problem is due to Hamas taking the pipe for rocket construction?

Israel is looking to desalination for a clean water source and your accusation against Hamas is they can't get fresh water because they repurposed the water pipes? I suppose Israel built nukes out of their water pipes because they don't have sufficient stores of groundwater or surface water so they need to get it from the Sea.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Do people consider access to clean water a basic right? I'm just wondering because I heard a bunch of people ready to start a revolution when they were told they couldn't buy big sugary sodas in NYC restaurants and that's like orders of magnitude more trivial of a problem. Having clean water is about survival. Can we at least agree on this before trying to point fingers?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Do people consider access to clean water a basic right?

I'm sure LP thinks clean water is a right, it is just that despite the overwhelming supply of fresh clean water in Israel, Hamas recycled their water line to make weapons (like Peter Griffin did in that one Family Guy episode). Of course, seeing that Israeli is desalinating water from the Mediterranean Sea, makes one wonder about the initial premise that there is enough clean ground/surface water.

 

[lpetrich]

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Stuns Crowd With Speech - YouTube at a National Town Hall with Bernie Sanders and some others. At 14:52, she states "We need to... we need to invent technology that's never even been invented yet." -- a rather trivial statement, though I think that she meant something like "We need to invent technologies that are unlike anything that we've invented so far."


Shortly after she defeated Joe Crowley in the primaries, she authored this odd piece: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on her Catholic faith and the urgency of criminal justice reform | America Magazine urging sympathy for ex-cons who want to go straight and deploring excessive incarceration. However, it used a lot of Catholic language like

Innocence, in its mercy, partly excuses us from having to fully reckon with the spiritual gifts of forgiveness, grace and redemption at the heart of the Catechism: I believe in the forgiveness of sins.

What should be the ultimate goal of sentencing and incarceration? Is it punishment? Rehabilitation? Forgiveness? For Catholics, these questions tie directly to the heart of our faith.

Amerikaanse nieuwspresentatoren op de buis met askruisje op voorhoofd | NOS in Dutch: American news presenters on the tube with ash cross on forehead

Also shows AOC with a cross on her forehead. Elsewhere, I could find pictures of Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi with Ash-Wednesday crosses on their foreheads.

Some days later, after the NZ mosque shooting,
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "At 1st I thought of saying, “Imagine being told your house of faith isn’t safe anymore.”
But I couldn’t say “imagine.”
Because of Charleston.
Pittsburgh.
Sutherland Springs.
What good are your thoughts & prayers when they don’t even keep the pews safe? https://t.co/2mSw0azDN8" / Twitter
She followed up with
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "This is a time of great vulnerability for our communities.
We must come together, fight for each other, & stand up for neighbors.
Isolation, dehumanizing stereotypes, hysterical conspiracy theories, & hatred ultimately lead to the anarchy of violence.
We cannot stand for it." / Twitter
and
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "(“Thoughts and prayers” is reference to the NRA’s phrase used to deflect conversation away from policy change during tragedies. Not directed to PM Ardern, who I greatly admire.)" / Twitter

This provoked outrage:
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez mocks ‘thoughts and prayers’ following mass shootings – GOPUSA
AOC: When something is too good to be true… "Sorry, I gave to call photoshop on these pics:"
Lisa s America ️️️ on Twitter: "Remember that time Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez FAKED being a Catholic & got ashes on Ash Wednesday? This FRAUD hasn't tweeted one sentence in regards to the Islamic Terrorist attacks on Christians in Sri-Lanka in spite of tweeting 14Xs about the mosque attack in New Zealand! https://t.co/YSIFykM9wa" / Twitter
Brandon Morse on Twitter: "Hi, @AOC. If you don't think prayers work, can you explain this please? You're sending mixed messages. https://t.co/VSdY5BzcD7" / Twitter
John McCormack on Twitter: "Also: AOC went to mass today. #AshWednesday https://t.co/gVzBEiY6Ly" / Twitter

Virtus Europa on Twitter: "@ricklgreenwood @CalebJHull @Oil_Guns_Merica Word from her Congressional staff is @AOC put the ashes on herself in her office. Not done in a church or by a priest. It was all for show." / Twitter

Other people were very skeptical, finding the cross too strong with its arms too thin, and suspecting a Magic Marker. But that scandal never got very far.