So fuck them, right? Put a longer route, that has more water crossings and that crosses more densely developed and populated land in the vicinity of a city just because there are a bunch of white people there.
It says "early proposal", not "preferred route". The ABC article never uses the word "preferred", that is wholly your invention.
ABC said:
The opposition was from US Army Corps of Engineers on environmental grounds. More water crossings, longer distance, all that.
That treaty has long been superseded (for example there was a Fort Leramie Treaty of 1868). Hence all the "privately-owned land" north of the Standing Rock reservation.
No, but just north of it. Through much more densely developed and populated land (including populated by Indians), it was a longer route than the one actually selected, and it would have contained more water crossings.
The "people of Bismarck" were not asked because that dud of a route was rejected early by the Army Corps of Engineers. Not because residents of Bismarck are mostly white, but because it's not a good route.
There is also the symbolism of burning large quantities of fossil fuels to protest fossil fuels. Especially later on, when hard winter set in and protesters hauled (via truck) many cords of firewood from 100s of miles away. Or used propane heaters.
Most of the protesters drove 100s or even 1000s of miles away. Many flew in from places as far away as Hawaii. This was, in the main, not about NIMBYism, but about ecological extremism.
It's not a smear as it is factual.
I did not say he sympathized with Nazis, but that he sympathized with a Nazi collaborator. Which is beyond dispute, even for you.
Emphasis mine. So you admit that Chakrabati admires (your word) a known Nazi collaborator. You can excuse his collaboration all you want, it does not change the fact that he was a Nazi collaborator.
If a Norwegian-American chief of staff for a Republican congressman proudly wore a Vidkun Quisling t-shirt, you'd be the first condemning it. Don't even pretend you'd defend the staffer and the congressman. You'd call them both Nazis who should be punched.
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I thought that right-wingers believe that cities are intellectual bubbles.
Probably a rather typical sort of car.
Distance traveled (Google Maps for NYC - Flint - Chicago - Bismarck - NYC): 3401 miles. At 30 mpg, that is 113 gallons.
I thought that right-wingers *love* oil pipelines.
Your criticism is childish. The avoidable carbon released into the atmosphere by these protesters has a miniscule effect on global climate change.
Thank you for admitting your smear tactic.
Why would I condemn that? - Quisling was a collaborator. Which means that chief of staff was in favor of collaborating with the Democrats. I would not assume the staffer was a Nazi sympathizer nor would I project the staffer's views onto the congressman. Really, are you that desperate to defend your smear tactics to concoct such dumb responses?
Multiply that by thousands of protesters, add all the supplies such as firewood that had to be driven long distances (from as far away as Oregon) and it's not an insignificant amount.
It's not a smear as it is factual.
Being a Nazi collaborator is a good enough reason for me. I guess you are all for punching imaginary Nazis, but collaborating with actual Nazis is fine with you?
Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) is Jewish. Ayanna Pressley was likely raised some Protestant, but she doesn't talk about religion very much. Seems like a liberal-religion sort of belief, that we all worship the same God. When Bertrand Russell was jailed for his pacifist activism in World War I, his jailer asked him his religion. "Agnostic" BR responded and his jailer asked him how to spell it. "Well, there are many religions, but I suppose they all worship the same God." he responded. BR stated that "This remark kept me cheerful for about a week."
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Good!
I am not a "right winger", but yes, they can be.
There is a big range of mpgs for "typical sorts of cars" though, hence my question.
Yes, and a barrel is 42 gal.
Again, not a "right winger" but everybody should love oil pipelines as they are superior way to move large quantities of fluids long distances. That doesn't mean it's a better to go out of one's way to route a pipeline though a more built-up area.
So are you saying that she is labeling herself dishonestly? Because Democratic Socialism is actual socialism. Public ownership of means of production and all that, just voted for democratically.
Not that broad. Social democracy is a subset of capitalism, not a subset of socialism.
Keith Ellison supported racist and anti-Semitic Nation of Islam and Louis Farrakhan.
The Taliban should have gotten the pass for harboring Al Qaeda/Osama bin Laden?
A Proletarian revolution?
Compared to the annual contribution of carbon, it is.
It may be for childish shallow-thinkers. I know people who drove to that protest for reasons other than its contribution to climate change.
It is smear when you are using as a proxy for something else. You admit you don't know if he is Nazi sympathizer. He has a t-shirt with someone who tried in a foolish way to free his country from the English. So why is it important to point out that AOC's former chief of staff had such a t-shirt?
Good enough for what? I take it you do not buy or ride in Fords or VWs or use Bayer products as well?
WTF are you babbling about? The former chief of staff did not collaborate with Nazis. _____?
Since the US Army Corps of Engineers only had jurisdiction over the crossings and not the entire route, I say that that's what they presented.
But the north of Bismarck route is the one that crosses more waterways and takes more than 10 miles extra pipe. Not the final route.
It could be that they had several alternatives lined up for the Corps of Engineers. I don't know the details of the application process. \
It is. It is longer, it crosses more waterways, it does not follow an existing pipeline route, it goes through more densely populated and developed areas, which means getting easements from many owners of small parcels rather than from few owners of sprawling ranches, it means digging up more roads, etc. The only benefit to the north-of-Bismarck route is that it is somewhat further away from the reservation.
There is no evidence of any "pushback from Bismarck".
There is no evidence that anything was rushed.
There is no evidence the north-of-Bismarck route was 'preferred' by the company. And as a matter of fact, if it was, they should fire whoever made that determination.
Doesn't change the fact that burning oil to protest oil pipelines is like fucking for virginity.
Like the NoDAPL crowd, including AOC.
I know a major stated reason was a danger of water contamination. But then the thousands of protesters build a camp on a plain that is annually flooded by the Mississippi causing a much more clear and present danger of water contamination than the pipeline ever presented.
Because I find admiring Nazi collaborators a sign of bad judgment at best, and something much more sinister at worst. For a side so obsessed about punching supposed Nazis, you are very dismissive of those who work with actual Nazis.
I never said he was. But people have been punched and had vegan
