Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

[Harry Bosch]

Ms Tlaib called the $1bn price tag “absurd, an unjustifiable 140 per cent increase for the Iron Dome".

Now she is a spending hawk, lmao! It costs what it costs. If her Hamas and Islamic Jihad friends were to stop shooting rockets at Israel, the cost would be much less of course.

Sure, it costs what it costs. But why should American taxpayers foot the bill? Let Israel finance its own wars. It can afford it.

It's pretty simple really: helping Israel to fund the defensive Iron Dome helps the US also. We are using the technology also. Before iron dome, we mostly relied on Patriot missiles. Patriots cost $3,000,000 each. Iron Dome costs $40,000 each. Helping Israel on the cost reduces the R&D for system, and lowers the per unit cost. They need it. We need it.

 

[ZiprHead]

Ms Tlaib called the $1bn price tag “absurd, an unjustifiable 140 per cent increase for the Iron Dome".

Now she is a spending hawk, lmao! It costs what it costs. If her Hamas and Islamic Jihad friends were to stop shooting rockets at Israel, the cost would be much less of course.

Sure, it costs what it costs. But why should American taxpayers foot the bill? Let Israel finance its own wars. It can afford it.

This. ^^^

 

[Swammerdami]

Now she is a spending hawk, lmao! It costs what it costs. If her Hamas and Islamic Jihad friends were to stop shooting rockets at Israel, the cost would be much less of course.

Israel is an apartheid state. Period.

Lies don't become any less libelous through endless repetition.

Omar isn't Tlaib, but I'm sure they're indistinguishable to blindered Derec, so explain this recent criticism of Hamas "friends":

"We have seen unthinkable atrocities committed by ... Hamas, Israel, Afghanistan and the Taliban"

Or are you just among the right-wingers who consider any criticism of Israel to be bigotry against Jews?

Israel obviously practices a form of apartheid in the West Bank, so you are wrong to call this true claim a lie.

Obviously no TFTer would himself be a Liar. What is it then? Ignorance? Do your ideological blinders handicap your brain on topics where you're bombarded by propaganda from Fox, Q, Infowars, etc.?


ETA: Here's what the U.S. President told Tlaib recently. His words carry much more value than those of Alex Jones or of many TFTers.

“I admire your intellect, I admire your passion, and I admire your concern for so many other people. And God, thank you for being a fighter.”

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Well, however you feel about Israel, The iron dome is a defensive platform. It intercepts missiles launched at Israel. It saves lives. It saves Jewish lives and Palestinians.

At $100k a missile, they need to come up with a better system of stopping the thousands of rockets and mortars launched toward Israel.
Are we chipping in because they cannot afford it or what? My understanding is they are not even buying missiles made in the good old USA. I believe it’s an Israeli version of the Sidewinder.

We're doing it for information sharing. And I don't think it's a version of the Sidewinder, I believe the missiles are radar guided.

Also, we are doing it to keep the death toll down. The price of US help is being cautious in shooting back.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

There is another way, but it is questionable whether it is "better". It would involve a massive bombing campaign against all known Hamas and Islamic Jihad targets, including leadership and rocket storage and manufacturing sites regardless of whether they are situated under residential areas, hospitals or mosques. It would probably also involve Israel having to reoccupy Gaza, or at least severely restrict anything coming into the Strip. Of course, all this would mean a lot more dead Palestinians, including civilians.

So it's important to do what is supposedly so horrible about Hamas -- attacking civilians. What opponents of Communism have long attributed to Communists is a bit more straightforward: "it's necessary to break eggs to make an omelet".

I really think that there is no chance of making an omelet in greater Israel. There is just too much history, too much religion, too much tribalism, too much hate. The best we can hope for is stability minimizing civilian deaths. Before Iron Dome, the only way to stop the rocket launchers was ground invasion.

It wouldn't necessarily require ground wars but it would incur quite a death toll. Hamas is quite skilled at using human shields. The more rockets Israel kills on the ground the more human shields die and the more the antisemites blame Israel.

 

[Derec]

West Bank Palestinians raising the Nazi flag ...

 

[fromderinside]

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When you know that bullets won't get you what you want go right to the heart of your beliefs.
Or, you could try to manage to show you really think of them as human beings and not imperialist Europe's latest attempt to Crusade in the ME.

 

[Swammerdami]

West Bank Palestinians raising the Nazi flag ...

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So the "Palestinians" are showing solidarity with Donald Trump and the Republican Party?

 

[ZiprHead]

I'm not an expert but that looks photoshopped to me.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I'm not an expert but that looks photoshopped to me.

Seconded. Note the three wires--one is in front of the flag, two aren't. Huh??

 

[lpetrich]

It's been much-discussed, but I think that I have an explanation for why AOC voted "Present" rather than "No" for that Israel Iron-Dome $1B funding resolution.

She wanted to boycott the vote, to say "I don't want to vote on anything pushed in such a rushed manner." Something like what most Democratic Senators did with a Senate version of the Green New Deal that Mitch McConnell introduced. They refused to vote on something that was introduced for a vote without any hearings on any of it.

 

[laughing dog]

Because money is fungible, any funds the US sends to the gov't of Israel to use for defense frees up funds for the government of Israel to use to build more settlements on Palestinian/disputed land or to attack other people and places in the Middle East. There are humanitarian reasons to oppose such funding that have nothing to do with anti-semitism.

 

[lpetrich]

AOC's brother:
Gabriel Ocasio-Cortez Unfiltered - YouTube

Evan Ross Katz interviews artist, activist and community organizer Gabriel Ocasio-Cortez. He discusses the impact of losing his father in his early teens, how the partial loss of his hearing impacted his life and decision to start the Deaf Collective, ableism on "RuPaul's Drag Race," homelessness, coming out to his family, how he handles the ongoing and relentless attacks on his sister, Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the Chromatica Oreo, why Instagram needs to add captions and, of course, Sarah Michelle Gellar.

Sarah Michelle Gellar played Buffy of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"

GOC criticizes the Democratic Party for not doing enough, and he notes that the Republican Party can easily campaign on promising to lower one's taxes.

Susan Sarandon Protests Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez at Her Office

“I’m here to say to the squad, and especially AOC, who, you know did make a lot of promises, that we still have faith in you and we would like to see if you have a better plan than we’ve been able to see, please share it,” Sarandon said on a megaphone in front of attendees at the event, which was billed as a Medicare for All rally. “If there’s a pathway you’ve got that we’re not aware of please share it. Because we’re losing hope here that you represent us.”

Part of this was not supporting "Force the Vote", something supported by the likes of Jimmy Dore early this year. Conditioning one's vote for Nancy Pelosi as House Speaker on supporting a vote on a bill that implements Medicare for All. AOC thought that that was a bad idea, and Jimmy Dore and others called her a sellout for that.

 

[lpetrich]

Cori Bush on Instagram: “Today’s my birthday!!! ” - mentioned by AOC. The two have evidently become very good friends in Congress.

Team AOC (@TeamAOC) / Twitter - "Account managed by the @aoc campaign. Join our movement for social, racial, economic, and environmental justice for all." - but overall does not seem like much of a personality cult of her


I must say that I enjoy watching AOC dunk on right-wing politicians.

Lauren Windsor on Twitter: "Here’s GOP Rep Byron Donalds describing how he uses @AOC to disingenuously console and praise Senators Manchin and Sinema for protecting the filibuster: https://t.co/ohFQaxJNmZ" / Twitter
then
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "Ah, Washington: where Republicans feel it’s normal to call me a “f—ing b—“ and stalk me at work, but when I calmly factcheck a Sen’s ahistorical, specious arguments upholding an unjust loophole it’s “I’m so sorry she’s doing that to you man, no one should have to go through that”" / Twitter


Acyn on Twitter: "Boebert: We’re here to tell government we don’t want your benefits. We don’t want your welfare… https://t.co/Gk8WenGrls" / Twitter
then
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "Tell ‘em loud and proud girl! GOP will strip your unemployment protections and dismantle any semblance of a public safety net we have left! Then make working people pay way more for everything on low wages while Wall St gets a meal ticket!

Good ol conservative values baby! " / Twitter
then
Lauren Boebert on Twitter: "Oh please, Sandy. Ask Abuela how that government reliance is going.
Nobody is taking safety nets away.
Growing up in a Democrat household, I stood in line for bread and government cheese. I want more for your grandma, just as I did for me.
Don’t limit the American dream." / Twitter
then
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "Thank you for proving to the world that today’s version of “conservative role model” is a person who mocks other people’s ill grandparents on the internet.

I can promise you I will treat your family better than you do mine. And I’ll fight for your constituents more, too. " / Twitter

 

[lpetrich]

Kevin McCarthy on Twitter: "Critical Race Theory goes against everything Martin Luther King Jr. taught us—to not judge others by the color of their skin. The Left is trying to take America backward. (vid link)" / Twitter
then
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "“Whites, it must frankly be said, are not putting in a similar mass effort to reeducate themselves out of their racial ignorance. It is an aspect of a sense of superiority that the white people of America believe they have so little to learn.”

- Martin Luther King Jr, 1967" / Twitter
AOC is a long-time fan of MLK.

Then
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "This quote of King’s is not from an early work. It was one of his last words, from “Where Do We Go From Here: Chaos or Community?”

If all sorts of folks who claim “what MLK would do” actually studied his work, they would understand he was a radical. And an anticapitalist, too." / Twitter
Like this: The Martin Luther King, Jr., Research and Education Institute |

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "Martin Luther King, Jr was murdered for confronting white supremacy.
Today GOP who are gutting the very Voting Rights Act King worked for want you to believe he’d support mass disenfranchisement and teaching of racial ignorance.
They should read the books they’re trying to ban." / Twitter

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "Ironically, the ineptitude that some Republicans demonstrate re: MLK proves that the multiracial history of the United States *isn’t* taught adequately enough in schools, and that we *should* teach it more deeply.

The GOP would do well to stop banning books & start reading them." / Twitter
The right wing hated MLK back when he was alive and active.

Roosevelt Institute on Twitter: "@AOC expresses concern that inflation hysteria will cause premature rate hikes before we reach full employment.

"This means millions of Americans, especially marginalized communities of color, will be left with limited opportunities to be employed at an adequate, livable wage.” (vid link)" / Twitter
There is a bit of economic folklore that states that inflation and unemployment vary in opposite directions. Too many people working can try to buy more than the economy can produce, pushing up inflation, while too few people working don't demand much, keeping that from happening. Thus, to preserve the value of money, one must keep people out of work.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I'm not an expert but that looks photoshopped to me.

Seconded. Note the three wires--one is in front of the flag, two aren't. Huh??

That flag is huge!

 

[lpetrich]

Great emojis.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "Child Tax Credit check in!
Who’s gotten their CTCtoday?
How is it going to help you out?" / Twitter


Sean Spicer on Twitter: "using capitalism to push socialism
Branding the U.S. left: @AOC makes a push into political merchandise (link)" / Twitter
He's a former Trump spokeman

Linking to Branding the U.S. left: AOC makes a push into political merchandise | Reuters
What she has on sale: Official AOC Shop

Now she is investing heavily in her online store, selling T-shirts, sweatshirts and other merchandise with her name, "AOC" initials or slogans including "Tax the Rich" and "Fight for our Future," efforts aimed at both fundraising and building the second-term lawmaker's profile nationally.

Her campaign paid political merchandise firm Financial Innovations, which operates her online store and supplies merchandise, more than $1.4 million in the first six months of 2021, according to campaign disclosures to the Federal Election Commission late last week.

...
Already, her fundraising hauls look more like what's raised by party leaders or senators.

Her campaign has raised about $6.9 million since the November election, compared to $10.8 million by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and $23.9 million by Senate majority leader Chuck Schumer, who is up for re-election in 2022 and viewed as a potential primary target for Ocasio-Cortez.

"One would assume that she does have ambitions for higher office. Having a big bank account is certainly useful for that," said Erika Franklin Fowler, a political scientist affiliated with the Wesleyan Media Project's Delta Lab research group, which calculated that the share of Ocasio-Cortez' Facebook ads offering merchandise late last year was more than twice that of other House candidates.

Or else she may bankroll other candidates' runs.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "Not sure if you know this Sean, but transactions aren’t capitalism.

Capitalism is a system that prioritizes profit at any & all human/enviro cost.

But fwiw our shop is unionized, doesn’t operate for profit,& funds projects like free tutoring, food programs,& local organizing." / Twitter
That's a rather idiosyncratic definition of capitalism, I must say.


The Recount on Twitter: "Rep. @AOC (D-NY) on creating a Civilian Climate Corps green jobs program:
“Our climate crisis today requires a peaceful but wartime-scale mobilization.” (vid link)" / Twitter

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "About inflation: the price increases we're seeing are due to supply chain issues worsened by COVID. They are not permanent. We need to understand this.

If we panic & raise interest rates, rather than strengthening infrastructure to help the supply chain, unemployment will go up. (vid link)" / Twitter

 

[Derec]

If all sorts of folks who claim “what MLK would do” actually studied his work, they would understand he was a radical. And an anticapitalist, too." / Twitter[/url]

This is why I frankly do not understand the uncritical worship of the man. Yes, he said and did many good things. But he also took some bad positions too.

Today GOP who are gutting the very Voting Rights Act King worked for want you to believe he’d support mass disenfranchisement and teaching of racial ignorance.

CRT is basically about blaming whitey for everything. I do not think MLK - for all his faults - would have supported CRT if he were alive today. I also do not think he'd have supported #BLM or raising statues to armed robbers like George Floyd either.

There is a bit of economic folklore that states that inflation and unemployment vary in opposite directions. Too many people working can try to buy more than the economy can produce, pushing up inflation, while too few people working don't demand much, keeping that from happening. Thus, to preserve the value of money, one must keep people out of work.

People going about productive work is not nearly as inflationary as just giving people money, i.e. entitlements because more people working create a increased supply or goods and services.
Last year saw an increase in inflation because so many people got "free" money that chased a decreased amount of goods and services.

 

[Derec]

I'm not an expert but that looks photoshopped to me.

Seconded. Note the three wires--one is in front of the flag, two aren't. Huh??

It is real though. The flag got caught in the wire. Here is the article with a photo from a different angle.

Palestinians fly Nazi flag near Hebron; IDF soldiers shoot it

Palestinians fly Nazi flags all the fucking time. And in Gaza there is even a clothing store named after Hitler.

 

[Derec]

Because money is fungible, any funds the US sends to the gov't of Israel to use for defense frees up funds for the government of Israel to use to build more settlements on Palestinian/disputed land

You admit the land is disputed. So why are Israeli settlements on disputed land any worse than Arab settlements on disputed land?

or to attack other people and places in the Middle East.

The only Israeli attacks "in the Middle East" (or elsewhere) are IDF targeting Iranian arms shipments to terrorists groups such as Hezbollah in Syria. What's wrong with that?

There are humanitarian reasons to oppose such funding that have nothing to do with anti-semitism.

Of course it's anti-semitism! Israel is the only country whose right to defend itself from terrorism and foreign aggression is disputed.