"Allahu akhbar!"

[Warpoet]

Is it only killings in the streets we need be concerned with though? There are far less dramatic and not at all life threatening implications of a rise in the numbers of immigrants from various cultures and ideologies, that still may be worthy of consideration.

Imagine if we let everybody from the southern us Trump country move up here to Canadia. We would be facing a major cultural problem.

Why should communities and countries and their cultures not have some say over who they invite or allow to join, based on the values held dear by that culture/country?

Again, countries already have policies in place to decide who gets to come in, who they should admit due to their status as refugees, and who doesn't pass muster. Nothing about the current situation necessitates revising those policies. There's actually no such thing as "a major cultural problem" if you have a society where everybody has a voice. If you trust the Canadian system of representative governance, letting a bunch of people with different opinions into Canada should be no reason for concern. If you disagree with what they have to say, vote for people who agree with you and not them.

Trouble is, Penguin et al don't think Muslims are like other immigrants and thus don't think the same rules ought to apply. They think that Muslims are brainwashed dogmatic fanatics who aren't capable of coexisting alongside the rest of us, or that they will do so only as a means to end so they can shove sharia law down our throats.

Their fears are not rational or founded in logic, so trying to approach them logically is a waste of time.

 

[Underseer]

White nationalist attacks police officers

Therefore all white people are terrorists.

 

[TSwizzle]

230 killed in France at the hands of islamic extremists and it's waved away as not a big deal, nothing to be concerned about. If just one of the victims had worked in a "planned parenthood" facility.....

 

[untermensche]

230 killed in France at the hands of islamic extremists and it's waved away as not a big deal, nothing to be concerned about. If just one of the victims had worked in a "planned parenthood" facility.....

What did you say when the US attacked Iraq and many more died?

And many more innocent people were dragged from their homes and tortured.

What a sick culture does something like that.

 

[DrZoidberg]

230 killed in France at the hands of islamic extremists and it's waved away as not a big deal, nothing to be concerned about. If just one of the victims had worked in a "planned parenthood" facility.....

He didn't say it wasn't a big deal. What UM said was that it takes more than 230 dead to doom a country. It's hyperbole. "there's a fly in my room when I'm trying to sleep.... we're DOOOOMED. ALL DOOMED I SAY!"

I also think that the terror failed. I don't think French people are any more terrified now than they were before. If anything it's just caused an opposite reaction. Marine Le Pen has never gotten as good numbers as now.

Terror attacks against planned parenthood clinics have also been a failure. As they just seem to generate more support FOR planned parenthood.

To sum up:

1) France isn't any more doomed now than it was before the attack. Nobody cancelled their romantic Parisian weekend getaways to Paris to bang their mistresses. None of my friends living in Paris moved back home. Life went on EXACTLY as before
2) The terror attack failed in getting France to stop meddling in the Syrian civil war. Which it has been doing extensively, before and after the attacks. If anything it made France step up it's involvement. The stated goal with the Paris attack was just this = utter and complete failure.
3) Not to mention deter people from listening to shitty 80'ies heavy metal. The French seem to have as terrible music taste now than they had before the attack. So the Bataclan attack specifically was a failure.
4) I don't have numbers on if falafel sales went down temporarily. I suspect that was the only people in France who became DOOMED!!!! But only temporarily. DOOMED!!!